While I editorialized the title of this thread, here's what was said:
"Sometimes, someone, usually mom, leaves the workplace to stay home with the kids, which then leaves her earning a lower wage for the rest of her life as a result. And that’s not a choice we want Americans to make."
Obama on Moms Who Stay Home to Raise Kids: 'That's Not a Choice We Want Americans to Make' | The Weekly Standard
Now, what I would hope what he meant to say was something like "...that's not a choice we want Americans TO HAVE to make...", that's simply not what he actually said.
While I editorialized the title of this thread, here's what was said:
"Sometimes, someone, usually mom, leaves the workplace to stay home with the kids, which then leaves her earning a lower wage for the rest of her life as a result. And that’s not a choice we want Americans to make."
Now, what I would hope what he meant to say was something like "...that's not a choice we want Americans TO HAVE to make...", that's simply not what he actually said.
Don't forget... It takes a village.
While I think you are right- Obama meant ...."to have to make", Obama, like many authoratarians has alot of trouble realizing that not every one shares his socio-political views. Thus, he can fail to make even a token acknoweldgement that these other views exist, at all.
But only if the village is progressive. After all, if it is not progressive, its is not a village :mrgreen:.
Exactly. We all know he doesn't actually mean what he says.
Actually, if your OP or your source was honest, it (or you) would have explained that he was talking about how the lack of pre-school programs causes mothers who want to work to have to stay home because there's no pre-school program to enroll the children in.
Actually, if your OP or your source was honest, it (or you) would have explained that he was talking about how the lack of pre-school programs causes mothers who want to work to have to stay home because there's no pre-school program to enroll the children in.
While I editorialized the title of this thread, here's what was said:
"Sometimes, someone, usually mom, leaves the workplace to stay home with the kids, which then leaves her earning a lower wage for the rest of her life as a result. And that’s not a choice we want Americans to make."
Obama on Moms Who Stay Home to Raise Kids: 'That's Not a Choice We Want Americans to Make' | The Weekly Standard
Now, what I would hope what he meant to say was something like "...that's not a choice we want Americans TO HAVE to make...", that's simply not what he actually said.
No, I explained that. He wants the state to raise children, not Moms.
While I editorialized the title of this thread, here's what was said:
"Sometimes, someone, usually mom, leaves the workplace to stay home with the kids, which then leaves her earning a lower wage for the rest of her life as a result. And that’s not a choice we want Americans to make."
Obama on Moms Who Stay Home to Raise Kids: 'That's Not a Choice We Want Americans to Make' | The Weekly Standard
Now, what I would hope what he meant to say was something like "...that's not a choice we want Americans TO HAVE to make...", that's simply not what he actually said.
I'm sure you have a quote of him saying "I want the state to raise your children"
But here’s the challenge -- that’s all good news -- the challenge is, our economy and some of the laws and rules governing our workplaces haven’t caught up with that reality. A lot of workplaces haven’t caught up with that reality. So while many women are working hard to support themselves and their families, they’re still facing unfair choices, outdated workplace policies. That holds them back, but it also holds all of us back. We have to do better, because women deserve better. And, by the way, when women do well, everybody does well. (Applause.)
So women deserve a day off to care for a sick child or sick parent without running into hardship. And Rhode Island has got the right idea. You’re one of just three states where paid family leave is the law of the land. (Applause.) More states should choose to follow your lead.
Moms and dads deserve a great place to drop their kids off every day that doesn’t cost them an arm and a leg. We need better childcare, daycare, early childhood education policies. (Applause.) In many states, sending your child to daycare costs more than sending them to a public university.
AUDIENCE MEMBER: True!
THE PRESIDENT: True. (Laughter.) And too often, parents have no choice but to put their kids in cheaper daycare that maybe doesn’t have the kinds of programming that makes a big difference in a child’s development. And sometimes there may just not be any slots, or the best programs may be too far away. And sometimes, someone, usually mom, leaves the workplace to stay home with the kids, which then leaves her earning a lower wage for the rest of her life as a result. And that’s not a choice we want Americans to make
So let’s make this happen. By the end of this decade, let’s enroll 6 million children in high-quality preschool, and let’s make sure that we are making America stronger. That is good for families; it’s also good for the children, because we know investing in high-quality early childhood education makes all the difference in the world, and those kids will do better. So we need family leave, we need better child care policies, and we need to make sure that women get an honest day’s pay for an honest day’s work. (Applause.)
About 28 million Americans would benefit if we raised the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour -- (applause) -- like Sheldon Whitehouse and Jack Reed support. And let me say this: Minimum wage -- those aren't just teenage jobs that are impacted. We're not just talking about young people. My first job was at Baskin Robbins. And I got paid the minimum wage and it was okay. Wearing that hat and the apron was -- (laughter) -- yeah.
But the truth is, the average worker who would benefit from an increase in the minimum wage is 35 years old -- 35. A majority of low-wage workers are women. A lot of them have kids. Right now, somebody working full-time on the minimum wage makes $14,500 a year -- $14,500. If they’re a parent, that means they’re below the poverty line. Nobody who works full-time in America should be below the poverty line. (Applause.) They should not be raising their kids below the poverty line. I am not going to give up this fight. And we need Republicans in Congress to stop blocking a minimum wage increase and give America a raise. (Applause.)
Actually, if your OP or your source was honest, it (or you) would have explained that he was talking about how the lack of pre-school programs causes mothers who want to work to have to stay home because there's no pre-school program to enroll the children in.
While I editorialized the title of this thread, here's what was said:
"Sometimes, someone, usually mom, leaves the workplace to stay home with the kids, which then leaves her earning a lower wage for the rest of her life as a result. And that’s not a choice we want Americans to make."
Obama on Moms Who Stay Home to Raise Kids: 'That's Not a Choice We Want Americans to Make' | The Weekly Standard
Now, what I would hope what he meant to say was something like "...that's not a choice we want Americans TO HAVE to make...", that's simply not what he actually said.
Americans wouldn't have to make that choice if the government didn't cause Mom to have to be in the workplace...in the first place.
Thanks to almost a hundred years of liberals changing our society, Moms have no choice...they have to work. So what is the liberal solution?...more nanny state.
Obama...the sooner you and your ilk are gone, the better.
Here are the full remarks. There is quite a long section on making things better for working moms and the choices women face. I won't quote it all, just some. But wow, the quote mentioned in the op is awfully selective and misleading since it didn't include the context.
Remarks by the President on Women and the Economy -- Providence, RI | The White House
And by the way - women have always been in the workplace over the ages. Either working in the family business, or as servants, or cleaners, or telephone operators or whatever. Yes, some women have stayed home and raised children (which is still work), but in general - women have had to work. I imagine some of the same people who are against minimum wage and quality day care also complain about "moms on welfare staying at home with their kids" right after they complain about "women in the workplace neglecting their kids."
Anyway, this was a very good speech by President Obama. Thanks for alerting me to it, even if the op was so misleading. I so wanted to quote more of it!
Actually, if your OP or your source was honest, it (or you) would have explained that he was talking about how the lack of pre-school programs causes mothers who want to work to have to stay home because there's no pre-school program to enroll the children in.
I'm not sure exactly what Obama is shooting for here, but unless those kids are in an actual 8 hour daycare that he calls "pre-school", his program won't help Mom much.
But hey, it's a government solution, it'll cost taxpayers more money and it sounds good to the liberal idiots in his audience. Maybe it'll get some Democrat running for Congress a vote or two.
Maybe he's making a commentary on how our society is inherently sexist as it is the expectation that the mother make such a sacrifice to stay home and raise the kids, while the father tends to be inexplicably immune from this expectation.
That assumes that "mom" has a job that requires no commute time (or unpaid lunch time) so let's up that 8 hours to, a more reasonable, at least 10 hours (probably 12 hours for many).
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