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Obama’s Name to Replace Jefferson Davis’ on Mississippi School

Southern Dad said:
I see. So it is okay to have owned slaves as long as they freed them. Did Jefferson Davis not free his slaves?
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Jefferson Davis lead a rebellion explicitly to preserve slavery and his followers murdered thousands of American soldiers.
 
Why not? There is already a William Henry Harrison High School. Two actually. One in Ohio and one in Indiana. He was only president for 31 days and accomplished nothing other than calling a special session of the Congress that we actually couldn't afford.
 
Objective Voice said:
I find this totally hilarious considering the fact that Sarah Palin couldn't leave the spot light once it shinned upon her Wisilla smiling ass. You couldn't pay that heffa to leave. I was never more glad when her 15 hours of fame finally came to an end.
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She was such a waste...
 
Casca XV said:
So they are going to call the school "Incompetent Obama Elementary"?

Changing the name is one thing, changing it to the name of the worst President in US history is pure stupidity.

Changing to the name of a guy who purposely caused more American racial division than any Klan's man could have ever dreamed is a crime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsWzfhvvOgg
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Right, Jefferson Davis was all about not dividing anything - oh, except the United States. He also had zero to do with racial divisions. Nope, didn't at all believe that black people were property and unintelligent.

Anybody who says Obama is the worst President in American history is clearly ignorant of history. Maybe, the worst since you were alive, but that's debatable. News flash - American history actually started before 1950.
 
Casca XV said:
So they are going to call the school "Incompetent Obama Elementary"?

Changing the name is one thing, changing it to the name of the worst President in US history is pure stupidity.

Changing to the name of a guy who purposely caused more American racial division than any Klan's man could have ever dreamed is a crime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsWzfhvvOgg
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lol what.

No, Obama isn't even close to the worst president.

And no, it is not a "crime" especially since your post is absurd.
 
Southern Dad said:
But those founding fathers owned slaved, allowed this country to be established as a slave nation, and counted the black man as 1/5th of a man.
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Actually the 1/5 compromise was only for counting population so that the South couldn't count all their property as population when appotioning Congressional districts. The Southern politicians astutely realized that counting the slaves would result in more power for the states that had a lot of slaves. They didn't want to count them because they were high-minded and very progressive on race relations.

I used to assume people on this board had a basic understanding of history. Clearly, I overestimated you.
 
Anthony60 said:
Aren't we still waiting on the first black President? I don't think you could call him that if he's just as much white as he is black. You could also then call him the 44th white President.
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He embraced his black half more than his white, if for no other reason than that many (perhaps most) whites are much less willing to call a black/white mix as "white"...whereas most blacks have no problem with it. In this particular regard, the black community is significantly more egalitarian than the white community. You don't have to take my word for it, either. Look at his time in the public eye - sure, there was racism tossed at him from both sides...but there can be NO doubt that far, far more racist accusations against him came from the white community.

And this is nothing unusual - in any given country, the socioeconomically-dominant race (or ethnicity) will be generally less accepting of those who "pollute" the blood with that of "lesser" races. This does not apply to all people - far from it, of course - but is true when it is applied to the population as a whole - hence the use of the word "generally". India's a great example - the "caste system" has been outlawed, but for all practical purposes it still wields a very significant influence. Those who were part of what had been the "Brahmin" caste are less likely to want to interact with (much less be governed by) someone who was say, half "Brahmin" and half "Dalit" ('Dalit' is the "untouchable" caste); however, those who were part of what had been the untouchable caste would have little problem with someone who was half-Brahmin, half-Dalit. I can give several other examples if you need.

The point is, the blacks are much more likely to accept Obama as one of their own, whereas whites...not so much. Tens of millions do...but tens of millions don't.
 
rocket88 said:
Actually the 1/5 compromise was only for counting population so that the South couldn't count all their property as population when appotioning Congressional districts. The Southern politicians astutely realized that counting the slaves would result in more power for the states that had a lot of slaves. They didn't want to count them because they were high-minded and very progressive on race relations.

I used to assume people on this board had a basic understanding of history. Clearly, I overestimated you.
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3/5ths.

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Anthony60 said:
So, does that mean we are all from Africa? I guess he's our 44th African president, first blackish president, and 44th white president. then?
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Believe whatever you want to believe.It will have no effect on reality.


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Anthony60 said:
Oh, he's "considered" black. Wow, very definitive. So, that changes what he actually is? Who annointed you as the person that is able to change BO's race from mixed to black? Sorry, that one's not working. He's considered, and is, a person of mixed race, as white as he is black.
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No one anointed me. That's how the LAW has treated someone of Obama's genetic history every single day for hundreds of years of American history, including in 2017. That's just fact.

And for obvious reasons, cultural and social considerations have followed the law.

I won't bother to address your "lie" allegation, but if you think I've lied, it's customary to point out the lie - common courtesy and all that.
 
Praxas said:
Sure it is your description, because you are saying he isn’t black. So again how black does someone have to be to be black to you?
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I'm saying, really just pointing it out, he's 50/50, just as much a white man as he is a black man.

You libs just can not get your minds to absorb that fact. It's like you are trying to divide by zero. This is fascinating!
 
jamesrage said:
I think they should have renamed the school after Harriet Tubman, Fredrick Douglas, Nat Turner or some other black historical figure who fought against slavery. I think people on the left and right would agree those are good choices.
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Oh Puh-lease....the right practically lost their **** when Tubman was named to appear on the $20 bill....and they probably have no clue who Fredrick Douglas or Nat Turner are.
 
Grand Mal said:
Nothing to do with Democrat or Republican. They're going to name it after a black man who had a brilliant academic career and became President of the United States. Do you really not see why they would do that?
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Their hatred blinds them of that ability.
 
rocket88 said:
Actually the 1/5 compromise was only for counting population so that the South couldn't count all their property as population when appotioning Congressional districts. The Southern politicians astutely realized that counting the slaves would result in more power for the states that had a lot of slaves. They didn't want to count them because they were high-minded and very progressive on race relations.

I used to assume people on this board had a basic understanding of history. Clearly, I overestimated you.
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Oh yes, thank you for that well thought out insult. Yes, I am aware of why the blacks were only counted 1/5th. That doesn't change my point any. The founding fathers signed off on counting blacks as 3/5th of a man but we do not take their names off every school they adorn.
 
Anthony60 said:
I'm saying, really just pointing it out, he's 50/50, just as much a white man as he is a black man.

You libs just can not get your minds to absorb that fact. It's like you are trying to divide by zero. This is fascinating!
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Really, you know FOR SURE he is 50% black and not 54% or 67% really? Again, how black does one have to be fore you to consider them black? I know the KKK wouldn't consider Obama White and the black community (and pretty much everyone else) have accepted he's black. For some reason, he's not black enough for you for him to be considered black? Wonder why that is? Oh yeah, because then you would have to accept we had a BLACK president. I wonder why you don't accept that? Hmmmmmm
 
Praxas said:
Really, you know FOR SURE he is 50% black and not 54% or 67% really? Again, how black does one have to be fore you to consider them black? I know the KKK wouldn't consider Obama White and the black community (and pretty much everyone else) have accepted he's black. For some reason, he's not black enough for you for him to be considered black? Wonder why that is? Oh yeah, because then you would have to accept we had a BLACK president. I wonder why you don't accept that? Hmmmmmm
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I'd say that considering what we know about his parents and grandparents we can safely say that he's pretty close to 50% Black and 50% White.
 
Southern Dad said:
Oh yes, thank you for that well thought out insult. Yes, I am aware of why the blacks were only counted 1/5th. That doesn't change my point any. The founding fathers signed off on counting blacks as 3/5th of a man but we do not take their names off every school they adorn.
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You don't see a difference between the rebelling faction in the civil war and the founders compromises?
 
Bodhisattva said:
I love the movie Game Change about Sarah Palin... they describe Obama as a rock star that has achieved nothing yet is winning.

The Left doesn't care in the slightest if he damaged their party or not... the love him. He is a rock star to them.
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Never felt that way about him and got more disappointed as time went on.

But for the love of God, at least he was a decent man, dedicated to actually being a public servant.
 
JasperL said:
No one anointed me. That's how the LAW has treated someone of Obama's genetic history every single day for hundreds of years of American history, including in 2017. That's just fact.

And for obvious reasons, cultural and social considerations have followed the law.

I won't bother to address your "lie" allegation, but if you think I've lied, it's customary to point out the lie - common courtesy and all that.
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Well, I'm pretty sure you can't pass a law that changes what races you were born into, that's not what we are talking about.
Seems like you are burning a hole in your brain over this. On the one hand, he is 50/50 black and white. On the other hand, your liberal leaders and you want him so badly to be the first black President, even though that's impossible.

Look at it this way, when the first black candidate is nominated for President, if he's a democrat, the leftist media will kindly tell us how Obama was of mixed race, and this person is the real deal. If it's a republican, of course they'll just brush it away.
 
Praxas said:
...Oh yeah, because then you would have to accept we had a BLACK president...
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Are you referring to the 50% white guy? By your standards, he can be called a white President as well.
Now, come on, admit it. The democrats are deathly afraid that the first black President will be a Republican. OMG, they would go out of their minds! I mean, more than usual.
 
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