• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

No gaming allowed in blue states.

The restrictions on these energy standards are the result of stricter pollution standards CA has made law. These laws help to avoid polluting the environment and often bleed over into other states because companies don't want to make multiple models and the CA market is so large they often just make the cleaner model. Say thank you...
That response makes a little more sense than the last one, which made it seem I made a false reference that you were correcting. I'll counter this statement with what is in my OP that the elites are the ones using too much electricity with their giant houses or say....Nacy Pelosi's multi-million dollar home with a $24K freezer.
 
That response makes a little more sense than the last one, which made it seem I made a false reference that you were correcting. I'll counter this statement with what is in my OP that the elites are the ones using too much electricity with their giant houses or say....Nacy Pelosi's multi-million dollar home with a $24K freezer.
Of course Al Gore remains the Green gift that keeps on giving, https://www.jacksonville.com/article/20130602/NEWS/801251944
 
That response makes a little more sense than the last one, which made it seem I made a false reference that you were correcting. I'll counter this statement with what is in my OP that the elites are the ones using too much electricity with their giant houses or say....Nacy Pelosi's multi-million dollar home with a $24K freezer.
The cost of something has zero to do with how much energy it uses. I'd wager that Speaker Pelosi's freezer uses less energy than most of the garage freezers located around America. It's not just energy that the wealthiest use most of...
 
Nope, but you're deflecting, that's for sure.

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.
 
I can walk into the Best Buy in Burbank California and purchase a gaming PC on the spot.
Yes, and you can also walk into a Mazda dealership and purchase a "sports car" on the spot - so what?
 
So, apparently, there are a handful of blue states that won't let the lowly peasants use a little more electricity for their entertainment if it involves video gaming. They say it uses too much power. The states that have restrictions are California, Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Vermont and Washington. Of course, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, elite politicians, and so on are allowed to guzzle down tons of power with their industries, mansions, ect. It's just not allowed for the serfs.

View attachment 67344921
Lol!!! You can legally purchase a PS5 in all of those states. If you think you need more gaming power than that then you are one pathetic ****ing loser.
Quit wasting your time sitting in your mom's basement trying to save some imaginary space planet from an alien invasion and make a rudimentary effort to save your own planet from your worthless self.

Oh, and by the way...in 5 years when all of those computers can put out the same level of output while consuming even less energy and lowering your electric bill make sure you thank the blue states for motivating those companies to innovate.
 
Lol!!! You can legally purchase a PS5 in all of those states. If you think you need more gaming power than that then you are one pathetic ****ing loser.
Console players aren't real gamers.
 
Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.
Not on the left-right scale in the U.S. it isn't. Maybe fore Europe it works works.
 
Console players aren't real gamers.
A console only gamer isn't not a gamer, they're just a gamer that doesn't game on PC. The first video game wasn't on PC, PC doesn't own video games, and even though it is my platform of choice, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that PS5 and XBS destroy the average gaming PC in the performance category, not to mention the price to performance ratio. I own many consoles and they are just as fun to game on as PC.
 
Not on the left-right scale in the U.S. it isn't. Maybe fore Europe it works works.

not that’s not how it works lol. You can’t just rewrite political definitions or move the political compass when it suits you.
Fascism is a far right ideology and there has been a concentrated effort to change that by the American right because they inch closer and closer to it.
 
So, apparently, there are a handful of blue states that won't let the lowly peasants use a little more electricity for their entertainment if it involves video gaming. They say it uses too much power. The states that have restrictions are California, Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Vermont and Washington. Of course, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, elite politicians, and so on are allowed to guzzle down tons of power with their industries, mansions, ect. It's just not allowed for the serfs.

View attachment 67344921

So you mean wealthy people have access to things that you’re cut off from due to not having a position in our society in which they have to listen to you is frustrating?

Hilarious.
 
@Fishking why is your subject line a lie? Where has gaming been outlawed in any states?
 
not that’s not how it works lol. You can’t just rewrite political definitions or move the political compass when it suits you.
I'm not. The right/left paradigm is conservative/liberal. There conservative/liberal paradigm in the U.S. is not the same as it is in Europe. Conservative in the U.S. (the status quo from the founding) is very limited government where liberalism is more government power that regulates industries much more.

Then, when you look at the economic model part fascism, it is significant control of industries by the state to push them towards goes the state deems beneficial to itself (and theoretically then the people). The left in the U.S. is full on with that type of concept, with things like regulating the coal industry into bankruptcy, pushing car manufacturers into certain gas mileage requirements, or how powerful a computer that can be sold in their state.

Your POV is a surface-level armature level of understanding.
 
A console only gamer isn't not a gamer, they're just a gamer that doesn't game on PC. The first video game wasn't on PC, PC doesn't own video games, and even though it is my platform of choice, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that PS5 and XBS destroy the average gaming PC in the performance category, not to mention the price to performance ratio. I own many consoles and they are just as fun to game on as PC.
The regulation doesn't cover average computers. It covers the high end, high performance, computers.
 
In the quest of the American/Chinese International conglomerate monopoly, they will complete the destruction of the merchant class and middle class - transferring all wealth to themselves for which continuing to release new lab created biological warfare virus weapons created in Wuhan on the urging, supervision, technical support and financing of Dr. Death Fauci.

They are not going to stop their mass murder until all competition is gone, and then they control everything and everyone - including all the dependent peasants and serfs depend upon the for crumbs.

Part of this is increasing inflation, wiping out people's savings and retirement accounts, which people won't need due to elderly killing disease and universal health costs then less, particularly killing non-productive otherwise sick people.

Why do you think they were creating biological weapons using bat viruses to splice together? Just for giggles?

People keep thinking this will just end or just wear a mask out of packaging saying it offers no protection against covid-19 and getting experimental genetic therapy injections increasingly proven to not work - an now stats suggesting it might make a person more vulnerable - while covid-19 continues to be mailed by the hundreds of millions a week by Amazon and Internet merchants - to make sure everyone who doesn't go to WalMart and other covid-19 infection locations aren't missed.

This isn't going away - and I don't think the Dr Fauci and other mass murderers still have control of this. Nature is not equipped to address man-made pathogens.

The great kill off of Native Americans - 100 extinction in many countries - covered a period of 3 centuries. I bet some of them though it would just go away too.
 
Certainly the FINAL ordered Amazon to eliminate all non-essential product listings to reduce the consumption of electricity of their massive computer system. I talked to an electrician who worked on putting in one of the mega market companies computer systems. Said the main power lines are 1 half in thick pure copper - enough to power a small city.

Naw, Bezos is god. Everyone knows that.
 
I don't see an article, so I'll just roll with it: citizens of these fine blue states are being discouraged to use certain laptops Got it. Are these same citizens being discouraged from watching tv? porno? charging their Tesla? or other entertainment based power consumption (e.g. pools, outdoor lighting, etc.)?
You have it backwards. It's not about discouraging anyone from using certain types of equipment. It's about incentivizing manufacturers to make equipment that is more energy efficient.
 
I'm not. The right/left paradigm is conservative/liberal. There conservative/liberal paradigm in the U.S. is not the same as it is in Europe. Conservative in the U.S. (the status quo from the founding) is very limited government where liberalism is more government power that regulates industries much more.
Read some history. Regulation doesn't just spring up for no reason, from some ideological imperative. Regulations have been passed in response to public pressure to address problems: environmental, health and safety, financial manipulation, you name it. Unfettered capitalism produces externalities that impose social costs, and society - people - tend not to like that.
Then, when you look at the economic model part fascism, it is significant control of industries by the state to push them towards goes the state deems beneficial to itself (and theoretically then the people). The left in the U.S. is full on with that type of concept, with things like regulating the coal industry into bankruptcy, pushing car manufacturers into certain gas mileage requirements, or how powerful a computer that can be sold in their state.
The government didn't regulate the coal industry into bankruptcy. It was fracking that put coal into a coffin, because gas plants, especially combined cycle plants, are cheaper, cleaner and more efficient. When utilities have to justify their investments to their constituents, they are pushed to pursue the least cost options. That's NG, not coal.
 
I'm not. The right/left paradigm is conservative/liberal. There conservative/liberal paradigm in the U.S. is not the same as it is in Europe. Conservative in the U.S. (the status quo from the founding) is very limited government where liberalism is more government power that regulates industries much more.

Then, when you look at the economic model part fascism, it is significant control of industries by the state to push them towards goes the state deems beneficial to itself (and theoretically then the people). The left in the U.S. is full on with that type of concept, with things like regulating the coal industry into bankruptcy, pushing car manufacturers into certain gas mileage requirements, or how powerful a computer that can be sold in their state.

Your POV is a surface-level armature level of understanding.

Oh look, another capitalist that doesn’t know how tariffs work.
 
You have it backwards. It's not about discouraging anyone from using certain types of equipment. It's about incentivizing manufacturers to make equipment that is more energy efficient.
yes .. because we know that all household items are energy efficient .. besides laptops from Dell. :rolleyes:
 
Leftist fascism is an oxymoron.

Not really. Leftists are all authoritarian in practice.

I can walk into the Best Buy in Burbank California and purchase a gaming PC on the spot. If i want to pay $2k+ for a 1000Watt, 3080, i9, with 64GB of ram, a dual fan hydro CPU cooler, and an RGB case... it can be delivered to basically any address in the state of California. Or i could do the same online.

Thread failure is becoming more and more common with QOP supporters.

Well, no... you can't walk into the Burbank CA Best Buy and walk out with a gaming PC.

Second, the PC build you stated being available depends on a lot of things that you'd need to take into account... most of which make it unavailable for reasonably quick delivery, and the power supply is WAY overkill and has nothing to do with meeting the regulations. What is more important is the PS efficiency. High efficiency (Gold/Platinum) are in short supply and are, in some cases, harder to come by than the graphics card.

The Dell systems in question are not CA certified most likely because a lot of integrators have had to settle for Bronze or lower efficiency power supplies to meet production quotas but fail the CA standard.

Anyone ready to jump in with eth "Well good! They should only be making Gold and Platinum Power Supplies!" would be advised to not hit "post reply" and look like an idiot.
 
Not really. Leftists are all authoritarian in practice.
Yes really. Fascism comes from the far right wing of the political spectrum.
Well, no... you can't walk into the Burbank CA Best Buy and walk out with a gaming PC.
Maybe you have to go to Glendale or Sherman Oaks today. Big deal.
Second, the PC build you stated being available depends on a lot of things that you'd need to take into account... most of which make it unavailable for reasonably quick delivery, and the power supply is WAY overkill and has nothing to do with meeting the regulations. What is more important is the PS efficiency. High efficiency (Gold/Platinum) are in short supply and are, in some cases, harder to come by than the graphics card.

The Dell systems in question are not CA certified most likely because a lot of integrators have had to settle for Bronze or lower efficiency power supplies to meet production quotas but fail the CA standard.

Anyone ready to jump in with eth "Well good! They should only be making Gold and Platinum Power Supplies!" would be advised to not hit "post reply" and look like an idiot.
If you're willing to pay +50%, you can have that build in a week.
 
Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.
It was not far right. All pieces of the fascist ideology were extensions of liberal modernity.

the fascists in Italy especially were led by a secular former socialist.
 
Back
Top Bottom