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Nigger is bad word but Gypsy is OK

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"Nigger" has extremely offensive & negative connotations, while Gypsy does not.

I have NEVER seen or heard someone use the word "Gypsy", in an offensive manner.
 
I think you started this thread just so you could use the N word and get away with it.

I agree 100%, seems obviously the purpose, and do not think it should be an allowed excuse against the rules. My opinion anyway.
 
However, I have heard folks use the word "Gyp", and that is bigoted & offensive.

I've met a few gypsy's and my parents grew up knowing a few of them. The ones I have met and heard of lead me to believe that their reputation is well deserved.
 
Oh yeah, and I'd like to point out that the comment about American Indians in the OP is wrong. "Native American" is not the preferred term by the actual people in question, "American Indian" is.
 
Oh yeah, and I'd like to point out that the comment about American Indians in the OP is wrong. "Native American" is not the preferred term by the actual people in question, "American Indian" is.
I thought it was "Redskins". That's what the NFL told me. :lol:
 
Gypsy is a derogatory term?

I don't think I've ever heard it used that way; I very rarely ever hear the term used anyway.
 
And you aren't when calling gypsies gypsy.



Grammar cases Nominative, Genitive, Dative, Accusative, Vocative, Instrumental & Locative - one that we have in Serbian


I don't call people gypsy.
 
gypsy isnt used to insult gypsies..get the point

gitano is used in spanish to refer to gypsies,no problem.

Gypsies suck ass. Ask anyone from London. Hehehe
 
Why is it in the USA bad thing to say nigger to Blacks or Indian to Native American but Gypsy to Romani people is OK in English? Romani is even underlined with this read line as mistake! Isn't this wrong?

And don't let me start talking about other minorities that aren't respected in English.


I wouldnt have thought this needed explanation...people call them gypsys here because thats what they believe they are...most americans dont have a clue as to what their heritage is....Ill bet theres other nationalities we call other than what they would like also
 
Are the Romani nomadic elsewhere or is it due to adaptation from persecution?

Pert certain they were nomadic about continental Europe before Chris Columbus got his feet wet.

How this means regarding persecution is another story, but obviously you're needing to read several thousand.

I think there are negative connotations associated with the word gypsy but I also think that it is a bit romanticized in American culture. Many of us highly value the ability to move around and start anew, which is one meaning "Gypsy" has here. Staying within an extended family that can travel all the time and having the ability to adapt to a variety of elements is the wonderous version a person may think of when referring to gypsies. There is also a mysteriousness which make the Romani interesting to many people.

Others may think of the negative stories they have heard. I don't know of many who use the word with harm being the intention, but I will be more aware of it now.

Good start. You've pencil'd in the First Draft of The First Half of a respectable essay....

...What you've BLATANTLY failed to give us is the second half. It would needs to start with something like: "On the other hand, the connotations regarding the [deplorable?] English word "nigger" have been to fore misconstrued. For there are many positives in being a descendant of black Africans..."

Why haven't you proffered us thus?
 
I hadn't heard the phrase "jewing someone down" until I read it fairly recently (maybe even here). If it was something widely used, it's not any more, probably because it's offensive nature is obvious. "Gyppted" (however you spell it) is part of the American lexicon, and you're right, I doubt most people even consider where it's from.

Did I really use the word "lexicon" 4 years ago?
 
I wouldnt have thought this needed explanation...people call them gypsys here because thats what they believe they are...most americans dont have a clue as to what their heritage is....Ill bet theres other nationalities we call other than what they would like also

Here's The Facts, gentlemen...

In the beginning white English speakers-- in England and its colonies-- called Africans "blacks".

These "blacks" at some point circa 1500 asked to no longer be called "blacks", probably because of the connotations of black=evil whereas white= pure.

...so the good folk of England (and America and elsewhere) opted on the word "negro", which was the Spanish/Italian/Latin translation of the English word "black".

And the Africans approved of this.

Somewhere a few centuries up the line we find southern American English speakers shortening the word "negro" to "nigger" as they did also shorten an umpteen other English words. For a time nobody noticed. But ultimately someone somewhere paid heed and decided that this shortening was symptomatic of disrespect and so it-- over time-- systematically-- became apparent that the shortening was different from its origin in an emotional context.


...Long story shortened...

"Nigger" is just "Negro" pronounced southern. No more, no less. Denotation's the same. It's equal. It's PERFECTLY the same thing. The ONLY difference was/is emotion, connotation. But let's move on...

In 1880 people asked, "Let's stop saying "nigger" and all say "negro"." And it was thus. And some did, and some didn't. But let's say the "good" ones did.

In 1920 people asked, "Let's stop saying "negro" and all say "colored"." And it was thus. And some did, and some didn't. But let's say the "good" ones did.

In 1960 people asked, "Let's stop saying "colored" and all say "black"." And it was thus. And some did, and some didn't. But let's say the "good" ones did.

In 1980 people asked, "Let's stop saying "black" and all say "African-American". And it was thus. And some did, and some didn't. But let's say the "good" ones did.

EXCEPT that in 2016 we've still some saying "black is OK" whilst others (mostly grandparents) are still insisting on that "African-American" thang...


...because by now we're back to where "black" is OK, which is where we were before we changed "black" to "negro" (and then shortened this to "nigger") in the first place like some 600 years ago.


Let's NEVER MIND what it was that made "negro" or "colored" or whatever become 'negatory' in its first places...


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