taxigirl
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"George is a congenial, amiable, admirable person,” he said. "He had a passion and a care for this neighborhood to ensure the safety of everybody here. And, furthermore, George is no Rambo."
Taaffe said that Zimmerman was appointed as a watch captain, despite reports that he appointed himself to the post.
If he is found innocent, invariably riots or at least outrage will occur. He has little chance at a fair and impartial trial.Zimmerman is innocent until proven guilty and deserves the full rights granted to the accused. The problem is that despite considerable evidence suggesting murder, he hasn't even been arrested. Zimmerman deserves a fair trial, but there needs to be a trial in the first place.
If he is found innocent, invariably riots or at least outrage will occur. He has little chance at a fair and impartial trial.
If he is found innocent, invariably riots or at least outrage will occur. He has little chance at a fair and impartial trial.
U.S. News - Neighbor comes to defense of Trayvon Martin's shooter
I did a search about Zimmerman being tried in the media and did not really come up with much. There was a nice article in an Australian publications, but other than that I only found a couple mentions, including Geraldo's claim that the hoddie caused Trayvon's death.
This happens in high profile cases and it is a shame that race has become an issue. If this goes to trial how can Zimmerman get a pool of an unbiased jury? I am not saying that I think what he did was right, he said Trayvon looked "suspicious" what does that mean? What about the dispatcher telling him they did not need him to follow the suspect -- the dispatcher should have said "do not follow the suspect" -- if of course they are allowed to say that. I do not think Zimmerman should have gave chase. What I am disturbed about is that no one is sticking up for him, the media has destroyed him for what may be a mistake. We were not there, we are only assuming what happened. Are we being fair?
U.S. News - Neighbor comes to defense of Trayvon Martin's shooter
I did a search about Zimmerman being tried in the media and did not really come up with much. There was a nice article in an Australian publications, but other than that I only found a couple mentions, including Geraldo's claim that the hoddie caused Trayvon's death.
This happens in high profile cases and it is a shame that race has become an issue. If this goes to trial how can Zimmerman get a pool of an unbiased jury? I am not saying that I think what he did was right, he said Trayvon looked "suspicious" what does that mean? What about the dispatcher telling him they did not need him to follow the suspect -- the dispatcher should have said "do not follow the suspect" -- if of course they are allowed to say that. I do not think Zimmerman should have gave chase. What I am disturbed about is that no one is sticking up for him, the media has destroyed him for what may be a mistake. We were not there, we are only assuming what happened. Are we being fair?
Neighbors said this about Bales too, so...U.S. News - Neighbor comes to defense of Trayvon Martin's shooter
I did a search about Zimmerman being tried in the media and did not really come up with much. There was a nice article in an Australian publications, but other than that I only found a couple mentions, including Geraldo's claim that the hoddie caused Trayvon's death.
This happens in high profile cases and it is a shame that race has become an issue. If this goes to trial how can Zimmerman get a pool of an unbiased jury? I am not saying that I think what he did was right, he said Trayvon looked "suspicious" what does that mean? What about the dispatcher telling him they did not need him to follow the suspect -- the dispatcher should have said "do not follow the suspect" -- if of course they are allowed to say that. I do not think Zimmerman should have gave chase. What I am disturbed about is that no one is sticking up for him, the media has destroyed him for what may be a mistake. We were not there, we are only assuming what happened. Are we being fair?
Fair point. I think we can blame law enforcement for doing a cursory investigation and not wanting to release the 911 tapes. Further, it seems that "community watch" was Zimmerman's hobby. That's okay...BUT. The police department should have explicit guidelines for these people; and one of them should be, "Do not attempt to approach or apprehend a suspicious person. Call 911 and report!"
Zimmerman was not a trained LEO; of that there is no doubt. He wasn't in any kind of uniform. Of that there can be no doubt. A situation he instigated that got out of hand would, in all likelihood not gotten out of hand if a LEO had done the exact same thing he did.
It is unfortunate that he's being fed to the goats...but such is the result of the rather provocative hobby he engaged in.
I'm glad to see your position softening. I think more people are going to start questioning the hate orgy on Zimmerman. Hell, he's a relatively low intelligence guy trying to be somebody by doing something good for his neighborhood (watch captain), tried to watch where he thought someone suspicious had gone to tell them when the police arrived, suddenly finding a very fit 17 year old beating the hell out of him and maybe then struggling to get his gun (that he legally had and permit too) - a gun he did not confront Zimmerman with at any point (known by girlfriend phone call) or even said he had one as a threat.
How he became a KKK racist who ran down an African-American coming back from a candy store gunning him down in cold blood because he hates black people - and now even the President joins in that chant - TRULY is sickening to me.
Before, the concern of no grand jury hearing this was a perfectly legitimate one. But now? Do you think a fair trial is even possible - let alone 2 (they will go for manslaughter first and if they faill then a Federal criminal civil rights violation charge - legal double jeopardy.) Even if he wins and refuses to plea to get out, he can be in jail for 2 to 3 years regardless.
Do you think he can still get a fair trial after the president went on National TV declaring Martin was basically his own "son?" People who kill a President's son don't get an impartial jury or a fair trial.
I thought this thread would attract more attention than it has. Is it because people have made up their minds already?
Unless it is made law it wouldn't matter.The police department should have explicit guidelines for these people; and one of them should be, "Do not attempt to approach or apprehend a suspicious person. Call 911 and report!"
If both the Feds and State find no reason to pursue it any further I think the least our President could do to avoid a scenario like you mention, would be to bring the Martin's to Washington on his dime, and be there with them when when they are briefed.If he is found innocent, invariably riots or at least outrage will occur. He has little chance at a fair and impartial trial.
It now appears known - by contrast - that Trayvon Martin was a drug dealer at school and in the neighborhood, a thief, burglar, vandal, drug user and came to prove he was a very violent 6' 3" young man, not a child just walking home from a candy store.
Yes. We have seen this before. I think it was 1989 in Florida, and we had the Rodney King incident in CA, so many others that were thankfully not on that scale. I understand people wanting to rise up and make a statement, but destroying things is not necessary. What really sucks about the riots is that people end up destroying their own neighborhoods. I have never understood that.
Zimmerman is innocent until proven guilty and deserves the full rights granted to the accused. The problem is that despite considerable evidence suggesting murder, he hasn't even been arrested. Zimmerman deserves a fair trial, but there needs to be a trial in the first place.
So One fact is Zimmerman weighs 250+ lbs and 6"3' Trayvon weighed 140 lbs. So, it is very unlikely this eyewitness who claimed he saw Trayvon beating Zimmerman may be perjuring himself in the face of the other evidence. In any event since Zimmerman chased Trayvon he probably felt he could easily overpower such a skinny kid.
Zimmerman is a Jewish name. His mother is Latina but his father is white. Zimmerman in the news picture could pass for an white supremacist.
So, the suggestion is to stop talking Zimmerman but assassinate Trayvon's character. There isn't any support for your allegations, just hearsay like your comments about Zimmerman being friendly and gregarious. One fact is Zimmerman weighs 250+ lbs and 6"3' Trayvon weighed 140 lbs. So, it is very unlikely this eyewitness who claimed he saw Trayvon beating Zimmerman may be perjuring himself in the face of the other evidence. In any event since Zimmerman chased Trayvon he probably felt he could easily overpower such a skinny kid. I'm 5"7' slim and weigh 150 lbs. If I were stretched to 6"3', I would be very skinny. I have friends in the 240, 250+ lb. range and unless you are a martial artist, they could pummel you quite easily if you only weigh 140 lbs even if you could sucker punch them first.
Zimmerman is a Jewish name. His mother is Latina but his father is white. Zimmerman in the news picture could pass for an white supremacist.
One has to know when this desire to arrest him began. And what evidence came out AFTER he made this assumption to change his mind.As of today, it has been revealed that the lead investigator(police) wanted to arrest Zimmerman for "Manslaughter" because he did not believe Zimmerman's account of what occurred. What happened?
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