Nearly 250 female inmates were sterilized in California prisons without state approval, a shocking new report has found. Some women accuse doctors of pressuring them, including one woman who was already strapped down and sedated.
Nearly 250 female inmates sterilized in California prisons without state approval - NY Daily News
Seriously......
Forcing inmates to be sterilized... is this Nazi Germany or 1930s US? Nope.. that was 2 years ago... wtf!?
Nearly 250 female inmates sterilized in California prisons without state approval - NY Daily News
Seriously......
Forcing inmates to be sterilized... is this Nazi Germany or 1930s US? Nope.. that was 2 years ago... wtf!?
Nearly 250 female inmates sterilized in California prisons without state approval - NY Daily News
Seriously......
Forcing inmates to be sterilized... is this Nazi Germany or 1930s US? Nope.. that was 2 years ago... wtf!?
Nearly 250 female inmates sterilized in California prisons without state approval - NY Daily News
Seriously......
Forcing inmates to be sterilized... is this Nazi Germany or 1930s US? Nope.. that was 2 years ago... wtf!?
So courts and judges should simply allow an unemployed woman who in court proclaims "if you don't stop me I'm going to have 10 kids" to do it?
Yes.
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Lol. Libertarian advocating the creation of 10 welfare children..
And that is why Libertarians are an illogical group and will stay that way. On the fringes where they belong. Making no sense to anyone but themselves.
Btw "Libertarian Left" has to be the most contradictory political ID I've ever seen.
In what situations does the state "approve" of sterilization?
Lol. Libertarian advocating the creation of 10 welfare children..
Nearly 250 female inmates sterilized in California prisons without state approval - NY Daily News
Seriously......
Forcing inmates to be sterilized... is this Nazi Germany or 1930s US? Nope.. that was 2 years ago... wtf!?
I’m not advocating the woman have the children. I think it is foolish for her to keep having children. I am saying the State should not have the authority to force an adult to undergo a surgical procedure.
No, illogical would be if I claimed to want to live in a free society while at the same time advocating that the State should has dominion over our bodies.
Its not correct to say they were "forced" to be sterilized, as force was not used in this instance. Rather, it is an example of government agents using their positions of authority to pressure individuals in an unacceptable manner. The potential for abuse from government based sterilization was demonstrated during the eugenics era and there needs to be safeguards to prevent abuse. Prisoners are especially vulnerable given their situation.
I guess they shouldn't have ****ed up and got sent to the joint.
Won't this save money becaue they won't be spitting out puppies that we have to support? I mean, that's the argument used to support tax payer funded abortion.
There is a reason that argument is complete tripe, apst. This is a wonderful example of just where that argument leads.
" I " approve of sterilization, but in no way forced .
Give these women an option or two and you can cut back on abortions and children growing up in poverty with ex-con parents.
Yes, because only physical force is valid when it comes to "forcing" someone to have something done.
Ever heard of undue pressure? Mental blackmail? These are not incredibly smart women (well most of them won't be), they are people who do stupid crime and who most likely won't have had a decent education and who can be pressured or browbeaten into something by a smart "salesperson" (in this case a doctor).
I’m not advocating the woman have the children. I think it is foolish for her to keep having children. I am saying the State should not have the authority to force an adult to undergo a surgical procedure.
No, illogical would be if I claimed to want to live in a free society while at the same time advocating that the State should has dominion over our bodies.
Unfortunately most Americans are not familiar with the traditional definition of libertarianism or the definition used by most of the world and assume it is what the Libertarian Party platform states. Since a sizeable portion of the membership of this forum are Americans (I am as well) I use the lean “Libertarian-Left” to differentiate myself from the Americanized version of the definition. Do a little reading on the subject. You might find it interesting.
The fewer children these women have will be a gift to society. I'd like to see them offer reduced sentences in exchange for male or female sterilization. Anything that will reduce the exponential growth those least able to produce decent children.
That is basically coercive. The choice is either get sterilized or stay in prison.
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