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More crazy Harry Reid in action - Public Option not if but when, SS not going broke

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LaMidRighter said:
And the rest of us know that government is a necessary EVIL that must be limited to the point that it has little power, since powerful governments limit freedom and liberty, which is......you know......kind of an America thing.

Hmmmm. Well, when all I see is calls to give big brother more power in perpituity then what am I supposed to think?
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:applaud :i'm with the more articulate guy, who admittedly commits the fundamental assumption fallacy:
 
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LaMidRighter said:
So, in their own words and bills passed they are saying this. You're only response to their words and the analysis of it is "nuh uh". Mkay, great response...........
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No, they are not. It is prue fiction on your part. Period. Factual, show one snetence in which they say they want socialism. If you have to add the word, they are not saing they want socialism.
 
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Boo Radley said:
No, they are not. It is prue fiction on your part. Period. Factual, show one snetence in which they say they want socialism. If you have to add the word, they are not saing they want socialism.
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Not necessarily related to healthcare.....but still called for sociali....um...I mean. YouTube - Maxine Waters (D) Slip of the Tongue Reveals True Intentions (Socialism for America) YouTube - Congresswoman Praises Fidel Castro and Race Baits Healthcare Debate YouTube - Democrat Sherman admits Obama's TARP and Pay Czar is SocialismYouTube - Barney Frank: Plenty of rich people that we can tax Oh, and BTW. Keynsianism as Barney Fwank referred to is used in socialist governments. Thought you might want to know that.
YouTube - SHOCK UNCOVERED: Obama IN HIS OWN WORDS saying His Health Care Plan will ELIMINATE private insurance

So. You lose.
 
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LaMidRighter said:
Not necessarily related to healthcare.....but still called for sociali....um...I mean. YouTube - Maxine Waters (D) Slip of the Tongue Reveals True Intentions (Socialism for America) YouTube - Congresswoman Praises Fidel Castro and Race Baits Healthcare Debate YouTube - Democrat Sherman admits Obama's TARP and Pay Czar is SocialismYouTube - Barney Frank: Plenty of rich people that we can tax Oh, and BTW. Keynsianism as Barney Fwank referred to is used in socialist governments. Thought you might want to know that.
YouTube - SHOCK UNCOVERED: Obama IN HIS OWN WORDS saying His Health Care Plan will ELIMINATE private insurance

So. You lose.
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You're going to have to do better than that. I'm sorry, but that gottcha stuff is meaningless. Show me something valid, real. There is no call for socialism.
 
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the great thing about Harry Reid is you don't have to scare off moderates by calling him a socialist, you can just run against his record and his list of idiotic sayings
 
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Boo Radley said:
You're going to have to do better than that. I'm sorry, but that gottcha stuff is meaningless. Show me something valid, real. There is no call for socialism.
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Maxine Waters on the floor of the house saying that live on camera isn't valid or real? Wow, just wow. Sorry man, that was in their own words in context. Game/Set/Match.
 
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LaMidRighter said:
Maxine Waters on the floor of the house saying that live on camera isn't valid or real? Wow, just wow. Sorry man, that was in their own words in context. Game/Set/Match.
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Yes, I saw it, a slip, happens, but not a call for socialism. You have to do better. These things are dishonest. Not worthy of being presented.
 
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Boo Radley said:
Yes, I saw it, a slip, happens, but not a call for socialism. You have to do better. These things are dishonest. Not worthy of being presented.
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Oh, so "We're taking your **** at the first opportunity" is just a slip. Right, well then goodbye as you're the only one being dishonest here.
 
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LaMidRighter said:
Oh, so "We're taking your **** at the first opportunity" is just a slip. Right, well then goodbye as you're the only one being dishonest here.
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No, slips happen. Sorry. It was not a call for socialism, and it is dishonest to say it was. You have to do better. Something real, something serious.
 
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LaMidRighter said:
Maxine Waters on the floor of the house saying that live on camera isn't valid or real? Wow, just wow. Sorry man, that was in their own words in context. Game/Set/Match.
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The first time I saw that, I thought "YES! There's proof of their agenda!" Then my heart sank, because I really wanted to be wrong.
I can't see how anybody with a working brain cell could deny we are on a path to socialism or worse. My other fear, is that they know it and they are fine with it.
 
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Barbbtx said:
The first time I saw that, I thought "YES! There's proof of their agenda!" Then my heart sank, because I really wanted to be wrong.
I can't see how anybody with a working brain cell could deny we are on a path to socialism or worse. My other fear, is that they know it and they are fine with it.
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Oh please! :lamo

That tactic is soo old and tired that only the brain dead use it anymore. ;)
 
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Boo Radley said:
Oh please! :lamo

That tactic is soo old and tired that only the brain dead use it anymore. ;)
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So the democratic leadership doesn't want a national helathcare system like in Europe? Hasn't Obama said that he prefers that system?
 
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phattonez said:
So the democratic leadership doesn't want a national helathcare system like in Europe? Hasn't Obama said that he prefers that system?
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That's not socialism. But, no, we're not modeling after Europe.
 
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Boo Radley said:
That's not socialism. But, no, we're not modeling after Europe.
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Government is supposed to control the industry, the people are supposed to control the government. And that's not socialism how?
 
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Boo Radley said:
Oh please! :lamo

That tactic is soo old and tired that only the brain dead use it anymore. ;)
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Maybe I'm old and tired of liberals who are detroying the country.
 
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Barbbtx said:
Maybe I'm old and tired of liberals who are detroying the country.
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Liberals, whoever they are, can't match what was done under Bush. Two needless wars, tax cut and spend (like drunken sailors according to McCain), and imcompetence. So, liberals, whoever they are, have a ways to go yet.
 
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phattonez said:
Government is supposed to control the industry, the people are supposed to control the government. And that's not socialism how?
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Govenment isn't controlling industry here. Isn't even proposed. By anyone.
 
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Boo Radley said:
Govenment isn't controlling industry here. Isn't even proposed. By anyone.
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1 issue at a time. I'm talking about European healthcare. Is that or is it not socialized?
 
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phattonez said:
1 issue at a time. I'm talking about European healthcare. Is that or is it not socialized?
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Actually,no. Brittian is not socialist. And we don't have European health care. Not even proposed by anyone.
 
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Boo Radley said:
Actually,no. Brittian is not socialist. And we don't have European health care. Not even proposed by anyone.
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If it is controlled by the government, which is controlled by the people, then how is it not socialist?
 
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phattonez said:
If it is controlled by the government, which is controlled by the people, then how is it not socialist?
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Socialism is an entire system, in which government controls all or a majority of industry. Not one aspect. And they don't control all of medicine. all of ehalth care. Like most countries, including us, there is no prue capitalism and no prue socialism. Most have failed in one way or another. Both lead to a gulf between rich and poor, losing the middle class. So, it is a lie to call us socialists. A lie to call them socialists. Both of us are a hybrid and have been for decades.
 
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Boo Radley said:
Socialism is an entire system, in which government controls all or a majority of industry. Not one aspect. And they don't control all of medicine. all of ehalth care. Like most countries, including us, there is no prue capitalism and no prue socialism. Most have failed in one way or another. Both lead to a gulf between rich and poor, losing the middle class. So, it is a lie to call us socialists. A lie to call them socialists. Both of us are a hybrid and have been for decades.
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I haven't been talking about the whole country, just the industry. Is the industry socialized in Europe or is it not?
 
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And keep in mind, we're not modeling after the Eurpoena system. ;)
 
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Boo Radley said:
Govenment isn't controlling industry here. Isn't even proposed. By anyone.
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Bull ****ing ****! What do you think the mandate is for, or the statements of those same liberal politicians saying that this bill was the "first step" to UHC.
 
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phattonez said:
I haven't been talking about the whole country, just the industry. Is the industry socialized in Europe or is it not?
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What part of not are you not getting?

However, it is important that understand to be socialist requires the whole country. So, you're getting two for one in my answer. ;)
 
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