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LAS VEGAS -- Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, seeking to console liberal activists who were disappointed by the final version of the national health care law, assured them that there would eventually be a public option.
"We're going to have a public option," Reid said. "It's just a question of when."
Reid's general comments reflected the same overall message to progressives that President Obama and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi delivered earlier today. It essentially boils down to: We've done a lot of stuff, but we still have a lot of unfinished business, so campaign for us again.
During a question and answer session, Reid also argued against "fear tactics of those who say Social Security is going broke. It's not."
The American Spectator : AmSpecBlog : Reid to Netroots: "We're Going To Have a Public Option"
For all the talk about how his GOP Candidate says some wild things... where is the accountability for old Harry
The American Spectator : AmSpecBlog : Reid to Netroots: "We're Going To Have a Public Option"
For all the talk about how his GOP Candidate says some wild things... where is the accountability for old Harry
yeah, everyone who doesn't think that the goal here is straight socialism is fooling themselves.
Yeah, and the moon is made of green cheese. The socialism stuff is mere fairy tale tactics by the desperate.
HArry Reid is sayin Socialism is coming,a nd Social Security is solvent. You should whine about him man.
Yeah, and the moon is made of green cheese. The socialism stuff is mere fairy tale tactics by the desperate.
So, in their own words and bills passed they are saying this. You're only response to their words and the analysis of it is "nuh uh". Mkay, great response...........No, he is not saying socialism is coming. No one credible is saying that. No one credible is saying he is saying that.
Harry's not in my district and not my congress critter. he's someone else's problem. My man is Grassely, and I have complained to him for his misinformation already.
No, he is not saying socialism is coming. No one credible is saying that.
Can't wait for the response to that.well, technically you are right, i suppose
Sen. Feingold Defends Public Plan, Admits Ultimate Goal is Single-Payer
cpwill said:well, technically you are right, i suppose
I'm sure you do realize that a public option or a single-payer system is not tantamount to socialism.Can't wait for the response to that.
I'm sure you do realize that a public option or a single-payer system is not tantamount to socialism.
It's actually capitalism at its finest. Isn't competition good? I guess the private businesses don't like the idea of a government-run company competing with them. Can't take the heat or something.
A business run with basically unlimited resources and the power to set prices however they like. It's an idea that flies in the face of scarcity and is antithetical to capitalism. Government backed monopolies have no place in a free market.
The problem is that yes you want the socialist model but further than that your side cannot be bothered with the facts of why it cannot work and don't care how you get to your ends. Please correct me if I'm wrong but that is the read I've gotten so far from the hard left.Yep, it's true. Those of us who think it's a good idea to have health care for everyone don't really care about people's health -- we just want socialism for the sake of socialism. Muahahaha! We're so evil!!!! You have seen through our fiendish plan!
The problem is that yes you want the socialist model but further than that your side cannot be bothered with the facts of why it cannot work and don't care how you get to your ends. Please correct me if I'm wrong but that is the read I've gotten so far from the hard left.
Except, of course, a public option isn't a monopoly.
Because when your side is presented with the facts you try to spin it away. I have had some very good healthcare discussions with liberals and some good ideas have come out of it, then there are the partisans who want it simply because the Democrat party wants it. That type of liberal cannot be bothered with the bad things and MOUNTAINS of evidence of the failures which are massive UHC systems. This is why you can't say anything to convince me otherwise, because I've seen the argumentation with my own two eyes.Meh, nothing I say will convince you otherwise.
Too bad, reality and "we want" aren't compatable. Things cost money, money which legally, ethically, and for all other intents and purposes is not yours. It has to come from somewhere and wasn't earned by the takers. We think it should be there just like everyone should have the fire department come to your house if it's burning.Liberals want everyone to have health care.
It's a commodity, cannot be compared to public services like protection because of many factors, most of all including the fact that a burning house is equal to another burning house. People have unique health needs not addressed in a so called universal model. Emotional rhetoric means nothing to me, bring facts.Who cares what it's called? We don't like socialism for socialism's sake. That's just a word. There's no conspiracy to create some socialistic world. Obviously, because nobody is arguing that the government should take over all businesses. We just want to help people who need health care and can't afford it.
Yeah, your side cares so much that it's willing to mess up a system so that everyone gets freebies even though it's equally ****, but it's okay, more people lose quality so that everyone has at least "something". No ****ing thanks, I'd rather strive for greatness and have others get out of the way.You know, that's what liberals do. We care about people.
And the rest of us know that government is a necessary EVIL that must be limited to the point that it has little power, since powerful governments limit freedom and liberty, which is......you know......kind of an America thing.We think that government is like our American family, and we should take care of each other when terrible things happen. There's no secret agenda.
Hmmmm. Well, when all I see is calls to give big brother more power in perpituity then what am I supposed to think?Once more, I don't expect you to understand. You guys seem to think that we want Big Government at any cost and for any reason (when clearly we do NOT when it comes to things like abortion, gay rights, and other issues having to do with our private lives).
It's actually capitalism at its finest. Isn't competition good? I guess the private businesses don't like the idea of a government-run company competing with them. Can't take the heat or something.
Except, of course, a public option isn't a monopoly.
Liberals want everyone to have health care. We think it should be there just like everyone should have the fire department come to your house if it's burning.
You know, that's what liberals do. We care about people. We think that government is like our American family, and we should take care of each other when terrible things happen. There's no secret agenda.
Once more, I don't expect you to understand. You guys seem to think that we want Big Government at any cost and for any reason (when clearly we do NOT when it comes to things like abortion, gay rights, and other issues having to do with our private lives).
Yep, it's true. Those of us who think it's a good idea to have health care for everyone i 't really care about people's health -- we just want socialism for the sake of socialism. Muahahaha! We're so evil!!!! You have seen through our fiendish plan!
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