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Yikes. I'm glad she's okay, Bodhi. How scary!
Thank you, she is perfectly fine now... here she is now, the one in the green!
Yikes. I'm glad she's okay, Bodhi. How scary!
I disagree with this. We received documentation regarding the side-effects of the vaccine, which included severe side-effects. The severe ones are rare.
I do not believe there is a relationship between the MMR vaccine and autism. That is my personal opinion based upon the evidence I read.
I would not have my child around such selfish people. Sorry. My son's life changed right after the MMR, and when it came down to booster shots we had a lot of soul searching to do. Without a doubt, it was better to immunize against devastating illness & live with possible long term reactions than to leave him open for a horrible disease (and leave others vulnerable).
In the end, we decided to space out all vaccinations so he wasn't hit with a barage into his bloodstream all at once. He will only get shots w/out thermerisol. After that, I saw significant changes after the 5 year boosters. IMO the MMR was coincidental. However, if careful observations mean anything, I definitely saw distinct, negative changes after shots. We just had to manage him as best as we could.
EgoTff as usual, jumps to arrogant conclusions. :roll: Each time a child is given a vaccination, the parents are handed warnings from the CDC/AMA. Though often remote, there is always a chance of negative side effects when introducting ANYTHING into one's bloodstream.
If you ever have a child with a disorder that changes her/his life and no one in the medical community can give you an explanation for how it happened to your otherwise healthy child, you WILL look for answers. That's not ignorant. That's a damn good parent & avocate. However, people have to weigh all the consequences. Besides, it's not always the autism crowds with the anti-vaccination thing. Yuppy moms think it's cool to be edgy like this. Now those moms are the chicks you wanna slap upside the head.
(forgive spelling, just waking up here)
The mercury in the vaccine is so small that it is entirely harmless.
Who are the selfish people? And no, each time a parent gets their kid immunized, they are NOT handed that info.
Selfish people are the ones who decide not to immunize thier children because it's cool to be a rebel or because everyone else will do it. Parents who have medical concerns are a different matter entirely. As I said, I struggled with the decision.
The form you linked above is the information your pediatrician is suppose to hand out when your child is immunized. If you did not receive that information, there's an issue in your ped's office.
I think you and I are on pretty similar pages with this.
BTW (I can't remember who said mumps are rare in the US), but I had them, and I was immunized. Actually, I had one mump. Weird, I know but it can happen.
I have a question I am curious how other parents feel.
My son has had his MMR (measles, mumps, rubella) vaccine. I just found out that several mommies in a mommies group I am in have NOT had their children undergo the MMR. Children undergo 2 MMR vaccines; one at approximately 1 year old and the other usually before they start kindergarten. The first shot protects the child 95 to 98%. The second shot will bring it up to 99% protection.
I live in Virginia, close to the Maryland and DC borders. We have had an outbreak of measles in Maryland. Four measles cases diagnosed in Maryland -- baltimoresun.com
My pediatrician's office said that I need to decide for myself whether to keep Weston away from non-immunized children. My older sister is a nurse. She said she wanted me to NOT expose Weston to these other kids, particuarly because of the measles outbreak in Maryland. She said, "Better to be safe than sorry."
What would you do? I'm just curious.
Sounds like we are... medical concerns are the only reason that we decided against them. Also, my family seems to have a lot of issues that might related to vaccines, though it is not conclusive. I had ADD, which some link to vaccines, though I am not sure. My daughter had her reaction. My brothers two kids both started developing issues, one with autism AFTER vaccinations. I wonder if some families are predisposed to issues?
I was not gonna fight you about this, I was just a little shocked. You are a very reasonable person, and I simply would have thought that you would not dismiss autism and ADD like that in a flippant manner. OF course it could be other things, or a combination too...
Vaccinations and Autism
Before 1980, autism was diagnosed in just 1 out of every 10,000 children. Twenty – five years later, the National Institutes of Health reported that autism disorders affect one in every 250 children, and is estimated to increase 10% every year.
Vaccinations and Autism
Autism is not a mental illness.
I have a question I am curious how other parents feel.
My son has had his MMR (measles, mumps, rubella) vaccine. I just found out that several mommies in a mommies group I am in have NOT had their children undergo the MMR. Children undergo 2 MMR vaccines; one at approximately 1 year old and the other usually before they start kindergarten. The first shot protects the child 95 to 98%. The second shot will bring it up to 99% protection.
I live in Virginia, close to the Maryland and DC borders. We have had an outbreak of measles in Maryland. Four measles cases diagnosed in Maryland -- baltimoresun.com
My pediatrician's office said that I need to decide for myself whether to keep Weston away from non-immunized children. My older sister is a nurse. She said she wanted me to NOT expose Weston to these other kids, particuarly because of the measles outbreak in Maryland. She said, "Better to be safe than sorry."
What would you do? I'm just curious.
Some would suggest the increase in "Autism" over the years is due to misdiagnosis.I was not gonna fight you about this, I was just a little shocked. You are a very reasonable person, and I simply would have thought that you would not dismiss autism and ADD like that in a flippant manner. OF course it could be other things, or a combination too...
Vaccinations and Autism
Before 1980, autism was diagnosed in just 1 out of every 10,000 children. Twenty – five years later, the National Institutes of Health reported that autism disorders affect one in every 250 children, and is estimated to increase 10% every year.
Vaccinations and Autism
Some would suggest the increase in "Autism" over the years is due to misdiagnosis.
Since that initial finding, 14 studies including millions of children in several countries consistently show no significant difference in autism rates between children who got the MMR vaccine those who didn't.
That's why I plan on having my future children vaccinated. I've done a bit of research, but the "vaccines cause autism" crowd seems to be continually moving the goalposts:
Some would suggest the increase in "Autism" over the years is due to misdiagnosis.
Keep your kid away from em and shame on them for risking their childrens lives and not getting them their shots
My first daughter got the MMR at just over one year-old and almost died as a result. Emergency surgery and all of that from a side effect reaction. She has not had any other vaccination and my second daughter ahs had no vaccinations at all as a result.
.... and EgoffTib, you don't think that there is any correlation at all between autism, ADD and other issues with vaccines? Seriously?
There’s more formeldahyde in an apple.I appreciate your thoughts on this. I don't know about the formaldehyde and aluminum, but I do know that my son did not receive an MMR that had mercury. I can't shake two things: (1) the fact that my pediatrician's office didn't say, "DO NOT worry." Their leaving the decision up to me says there may be a tiny bit of problems with it; and (2) that my sister (who has been an RN since 1980) said she could not, in good conscience, say she felt safe. She said she would feel differently if the measles situation had not occurred in Maryland (which is 20 miles from where I live).
I can accept that some people won't have their children immunized. However, I cannot accept people who are friends of mine who never informed me of their decision to NOT immunize their children until now. I think it shows a thoughtlessness that I don't care to be around. Maybe I'll feel differently down the road, but right now, I don't care to associate with these people. I have enough friends/parents who have immunized their children that my son won't be deprived if he doesn't see these other kids.
Have you ever given your child an apple to eat?aps, maybe I can ease some of your fears.
The idea that something is 95% effective is misleading you into thinking that with exposure, the child will either get it full blown (and thus potentially fatal) or he won't... but that's not the way immunology works. If he has had the first vaccine then his immune system has already been provided with a tool to fight the illness.
The second vaccine means that the illness won't even be able to proliferate at all. It's essentially a booster shot to amplify and reinforce the effectiveness of the first shot. With the second shot, the virus will be targetted and destroyed the second it enters the body. With the first injection, your kid could get infected, but the immune system already has some preparation to deal with it, so even though he would get sick, the illness wouldn't be nearly as severe as someone who never had the first one. He would more than likely come down with a mild case. No need to alarm yourself with statistics from the developing world... your kid already got the first shot. That and the fact that you live in the U.S. means that you're home free, basically.
I personally believe that vaccines are important but the way they are manufactured needs to change. A lot of the additives and preservatives in them have little research into long-term side effects. There are ingredients such as formaldehyde (embalming fluid), mercury and aluminum compounds, etc. The bodies of young children are way more sensitive than those of adults. You would never give your kid alcohol, or an adult dose of medicine, so why would you inject them with any of the above poisons willingly?
That said... the minority of parents who don't get their kids vaccinated, mostly on the belief that it contributes to neurological issues, can afford to abstain because the majority are getting the vaccine. Their protection comes from the fact that everyone else is protected and over all incidence of the illness is minimized.