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Judge just tied the real single season home run record. 61.
As a kid, Roger Maris was my idol. I was at Yankee stadium in 1961, 61 years ago to see 4 of the 61 Roger hit.
Its kid of a melancholy feeling to see the record tied. But time changes all.
No the real record is held by Barry Bonds.
Let's stop discrediting Bonds record.
Unless they pull an asshole move like the Red Sox and walk him four times. There used to be a code.
Discredit it is all one can do with his "record".No the real record is held by Barry Bonds.
Let's stop discrediting Bonds record.
Discredit it is all one can do with his "record".
...It's illegitimate due to the steroid use.
EoS.
Yes, if it is in the books at all - though it should be expunged.If is illegitimate than shouldn't an asterisk be next to Bonds, Big Mac, and Sosa's name?
Pardons - meaning was and claim to have not been complicit.or admit to have not been complicit in the deceit, and the defrauding of its fans.
We’re old. I remember the 1961 season also. The 154th game was broadcast on one of the three over the air channels. Maris hit number 59 that game, but the Orioles brough in Hoyt Wilhelm to face Maris in his last at bat. Maris failed to hit number 60 that night. It was quite a season between the M&M boys. I think most of us were pulling for Mantle to break Ruth’s record, but he got injured in September. Mantle ended up with 54. It was a season to remember.Judge just tied the real single season home run record. 61.
As a kid, Roger Maris was my idol. I was at Yankee stadium in 1961, 61 years ago to see 4 of the 61 Roger hit.
Its kid of a melancholy feeling to see the record tied. But time changes all.
We’re old. I remember the 1961 season also. The 154th game was broadcast on one of the three over the air channels. Maris hit number 59 that game, but the Orioles brough in Hoyt Wilhelm to face Maris in his last at bat. Maris failed to hit number 60 that night. It was quite a season between the M&M boys. I think most of us were pulling for Mantle to break Ruth’s record, but he got injured in September. Mantle ended up with 54. It was a season to remember.
The only games I ever got to watch on TV was the Game of the Week with Dizzy Dean and Pee Wee Reese. Still going to school, most teachers brought TV’s in the classroom to let us watch the world series between the Reds and Yanks.
Anyway, Congratulations to Judge. The question now is can he win the triple crown along with breaking Maris’s record? Mantle’s triple crown in 1956, he hit .352, 52 homers and 130 RBI’s. I was 10 years old that year. I followed the game, especially then the Milwaukee Braves on radio. Atlanta had the Braves AA southern league minor league team, the Atlanta Crackers. It was a great time to be a baseball fan, growing up listening to the games with such players as Aaron, Mantle, Mays, Ted Williams, Ernie Banks, Warren Spahn, Brooks and Frank Robinson, Stan the man Musilal, Yogi Berra, Eddie Mathews and more. Great memories from that era of baseball when baseball was king.
It was quite a season between the M&M boys. I think most of us were pulling for Mantle to break Ruth’s record
Maris didn’t have that long a career, 2 years with the Cleveland Indians, 2 with the Kansas City A’s, then 7 with the Yankees before ending his career in St. Louis, his last 2 years. A lot of folks forget Maris won 2 MVP awards with the yanks. He finished with 275 home runs, not a total that would get one into the Hall of Fame. Of course, back then the criteria were 500 home runs or 3,000 hits, 300 career wins for a pitcher or forget the Hall. That was a completely different era. A lot of folks back then didn’t want to recognize Maris’s 61 as it took him 162 games instead of 154. They also cited the watered-down effect of the AL going from 8 to 10 teams saying a lot of those playing in the AL in 1961 were basically AAA or AA players.Yes, most were but for some reason I was a Maris fan.
M&M Boys. I have not heard that in a while. That too brings back memories.
Maris didn’t have that long a career, 2 years with the Cleveland Indians, 2 with the Kansas City A’s, then 7 with the Yankees before ending his career in St. Louis, his last 2 years. A lot of folks forget Maris won 2 MVP awards with the yanks. He finished with 275 home runs, not a total that would get one into the Hall of Fame. Of course, back then the criteria were 500 home runs or 3,000 hits, 300 career wins for a pitcher or forget the Hall. That was a completely different era. A lot of folks back then didn’t want to recognize Maris’s 61 as it took him 162 games instead of 154. They also cited the watered-down effect of the AL going from 8 to 10 teams saying a lot of those playing in the AL in 1961 were basically AAA or AA players.
But what of today? 30 teams, 15 in each league, the DH, one can make the same argument of the talent level being watered-down today. But I view baseball as a series of eras where the new one is different from the old one. Comparing stats in the dead ball era or the Ruth era or the expansion era which began in 1961 to the steroid era, the DH era to today doesn’t tell the true picture of a players worth or accomplishment on the field. Records are made to be broken. However, I have big problems including the steroid era stats with those of previous eras or today’s era. Today’s game is completely different than that of my youth. I hate the DH. That reminds me of a girls’ softball game, I keep wondering when they will have that short outfielder.
I grew up watching Warren Spahn, pitch count, no way. He’d started 30-40 games, complete 20-30, throw 250-300 innings a season or more. Win 363 games. Hit for himself, yeah, a completely different game today.
Anyway, congratulation to Judge. I hope he gets a few more.
Yeah, there were those who said the game was either meant to be seen at the ballpark or to be listened to on the radio. I think most kids back then knew the starting lineups of all 16 teams. When the box scores were published daily in the sports section of every newspaper.Baseball was so different then. No one sat down and watch a game unless you were at the ballpark. You went about life and the game was on in the background. TV or radio. It was the background "musical score" of life in the late 50's and 60's. If you were at the game, you keep score. Every kid knew how to keep a score card before they knew how to read Dick and Jane.
I still know the lineup of the 1961 NY Yankees.
Discredit it is all one can do with his "record".
...It's illegitimate due to the steroid use.
EoS.
Really there all only a few that matter - Bonds, Sosa, McGwire. The reason being their stats exceeded the legitimate records. I don't think anyone really gives a shit about Gary Sheffield.Outside of Judge and Griffey, who played the game "clean" in the modern era?
Are we going to put an asterisk next to Bonds, A-Rod, Sosa, Thome, Frank Thomas, McGwire, Palmerio, Pujols, Manny Ramirez, David Ortiz, etc....?
Did I miss any names? Should we just assume guilt for every player named by Jose Canseco?
And how can we discredit these players if some were never suspended and technically broke any rules?
Sosa hit over 60 homeruns in 3 different seasons & did not lead the NL in homers in any of those 3 seasons thatsIf is illegitimate than shouldn't an asterisk be next to Bonds, Big Mac, and Sosa's name?