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Mixed message: Beck spews violent rhetoric, but tells audience to reject violence

Yes, if you had read the article I provided you wouldn't have had to ask. It contains a direct quote from a long time stormfront poster.
Still trying to understand why this is not an association fallacy ... :shrug:
 
Mixed message: Beck spews violent rhetoric, but tells audience to reject violence




I know the far-righties hate MM, but I'm grateful that someone is documenting all this crap and keeping track of it. God forbid, when the next Oklahoma City happens, the FBI can't look back see where they got their marching orders and inspiration.

Note to Beck: People who are afraid don't hear the 'reject violence' part.

I notice the first article mentions tin foil hats. Have you bought yours yet, or do you prefer the homemade ones?
 
Still trying to understand why this is not an association fallacy ... :shrug:
It's quite simple really, Beck is pushing Nazi propaganda on his show. I already provided a link so don't waste my time asking me to prove it, mk? And uh, Stormfront members credit Beck as the inspiration for the surge in new members in their Neo Nazi white supremist organization. Again, I provided the link. So, do you have anymore dumb questions?
 
It's quite simple really, Beck is pushing Nazi propaganda on his show. I already provided a link so don't waste my time asking me to prove it, mk? And uh, Stormfront members credit Beck as the inspiration for the surge in new members in their Neo Nazi white supremist organization. Again, I provided the link. So, do you have anymore dumb questions?
Yeah, your link didn't say anything about "Nazi propaganda." But I won't waste my time asking you to prove it.

And uh, try looking up the definition of the terms "propaganda" and "association fallacy." It might help you come across as a little less ignorant, but I'm not holding my breath.
 
Yeah, your link didn't say anything about "Nazi propaganda." But I won't waste my time asking you to prove it.

And uh, try looking up the definition of the terms "propaganda" and "association fallacy." It might help you come across as a little less ignorant, but I'm not holding my breath.
I did better than that and I looked up propaganda techniques and Glenn Beck uses every one of them, including "association fallacy". What's even more ironic is Beck falsely claimed the Nazi's learned their propaganda techniques from Progressives in the United States. LOL But the fact of the matter is, the Nazi's learned their propaganda techniques from the British and Beck learned his from the Nazi's.
 
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When you make your money deceiving people as GB does; then you have no soul. He is disgusting.
Video: Glenn Beck claims he is only an entertainer not interested in the political process - National Political Buzz | Examiner.com
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In a recent interview with Forbes magazine, Glenn Beck claims he is only an "entertainer" who does not give a "flying crap about the political process." If Beck was being sincere, he is making a lot of profit from his entertainment business. Talking Points Memo reports that Glenn Beck Inc. has taken in around $32 million over the last year from radio, print, and speaking engagements.

The problem for Beck's progressive critics is not that he makes money, or that he is an entertainer. Instead, their issue is that Beck is taken seriously by millions of followers. In addition, this phenomenon is no accident. As demonstrated in the clip below, Beck often gives his audience serious political advice. In the clip Beck goes through the Republican candidates for 2012 and suggests which should be taken seriously and which should not. Beck then proceeds to give foreign policy advice, saying the United States should "vaporize" any country that gives us trouble with nuclear weapons.

Of course, Beck would likely respond by saying he should not be taken literally and that he was merely entertaining his audience. However, the reality is that Beck's listeners do take him seriously and regard his advice as real political solutions. When Beck gave the keynote speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference, he spoke for 45 minutes on the dangers of progressivism and what conservatism should really look like. At no point did Beck stop in the the speech to say, "You should realize that this is all for entertainment purposes. You should not really believe progressivism is a cancer." Much of Beck's rhetoric is held up as gospel by his most loyal followers.

The real issue is that Beck is both a political leader and entertainer with no clear lines separating the two roles. Every reasonable, objective viewer of Beck realized he was joking about poisoning Speaker Pelosi in one skit last year. However, the skit may be taken more seriously by the crazed conservative who believes Pelosi is organizing FEMA internment camps. If Beck truly does not give a "flying crap" about the political process, he, should because the reality is his message has a real impact on many viewers.
 
I'm so tired of people hiding behind "free speech" to protect these talking heads! If people who are listening to folks like Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and a host of other right-wing talk radio jocks who repeat the same rhetorical "talking points" that do nothing but inject fear and increase the anxiety level of their listeners, then as far as I'm concerned they are culpable in any act of violence that can be linked to their message(s) of hate, fear and mistrust (of government).

Every since Obama got elected my concern has been that all these "innuendos", i.e., "Imam Obama, Muslim extremist, terrorist, alleged questionable associations, the Messiah, nationalization, socialism, Maxist, Nazism, taking away your libery, subserting the Constitution", that give the impression that this President is anti-American would lead someone to take matters into their own hands. It's one thing to inform people of policy changes or legislation that may have a negative impact on basic rights or may change the way they live. It's completely different to :spin: the discourse to such a degree that it enables people to do others harm for no justifiable reason.

Funny - I remember all of THAT same kind of thing happening from the LIBERAL camp the entire time Bush was in office.

Don't point to these nutjobs as if the Liberals don't have their own to be embarassed by.
 
Funny - I remember all of THAT same kind of thing happening from the LIBERAL camp the entire time Bush was in office.

Don't point to these nutjobs as if the Liberals don't have their own to be embarassed by.
Well, I remember THAT same kind of thing happening from the CONSERVATIVE camp the entire time Clinton was in office. If I recall it was the first lady, Hillary Clinton that called it a "vast right wing conspiracy" and by golly, she was right on the money, hunny. So, don't point to the liberals when it was the rightwing nutjobs that set the precedent.
 
Mixed message: Beck spews violent rhetoric, but tells audience to reject violence




I know the far-righties hate MM, but I'm grateful that someone is documenting all this crap and keeping track of it. God forbid, when the next Oklahoma City happens, the FBI can't look back see where they got their marching orders and inspiration.

Note to Beck: People who are afraid don't hear the 'reject violence' part.

I am very familiar with Beck's show on Fox and I've never heard him say that he condomes violance nor spews violent rethoric watsoever.
That article that you showed is WRONG. YOU have to see Beck's show on a daily basis in order to find out what the hell he is talking about instead of relying on Liberal chicken shet magazines and newspapers. Watch the show so nobody make you look like a fool.
 
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Well, I remember THAT same kind of thing happening from the CONSERVATIVE camp the entire time Clinton was in office. If I recall it was the first lady, Hillary Clinton that called it a "vast right wing conspiracy" and by golly, she was right on the money, hunny. So, don't point to the liberals when it was the rightwing nutjobs that set the precedent.

Exactly my point: it's nothing new.

Everyone's doing it - it's been in our politics for decades, that's why the donkey and elephant *are there* because of that exact same thing. The idea that it's a 'new lack of respect for' is misguided. (as was discussed in a different thread but I can't figure out which one - so no linkie).
 
Well, as you can see, even in this thread, the crowded theater that you're not allowed to yell "FIRE!" in is getting to be standing room only.

Regards from Rosie

There is no such thing as hiding behind free speech.

Free speech was enshrined in the Constitution specifically to protect unpopular speech. It's not a hidey-hole, it's an aegis.

Oh I'm all alongside "Free Speech".
Just as long as the speaker accepts responsibility for the ramifications.
 
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Obama doesn't receive any more threats than Bush. In fact I don't know of a single movie calling for his assasination.
Did you have the same concern for President Bush's life?

I said nothing about someone threatening the life of a sitting President. There's no mention of that anywhere in my post. The thread speaks of the people of this country taking matters into their own hands as (presumably) encouraged by the rhetoric espoused by talk radio jocks, not someone attempting to assasinate the President. Big difference!

Those people need to be held accountable for their actions and brought to justice. So, yes, I denounced such cruelty upon learning of the attempt on G. H. W. Bush's life just as I did for Reagan, and will do the same when the public learns of such an attempt on the life or President Obama.

Disagree with/hate the man's policies all you want, but you don't try to take him out...'least not that way. Use the power of the vote! if you dislike him that much. It's your right as an eligible voter to exercise this power if you're brave and rational enough to do so.
 
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Funny - I remember all of THAT same kind of thing happening from the LIBERAL camp the entire time Bush was in office.

Don't point to these nutjobs as if the Liberals don't have their own to be embarassed by.

I can't speak to everyone's position on this. I can only tell you how I've conducted myself in this regard. So, please don't take my words and try to paint the masses with the same broad brush. That said, it's politics! Both sides will say and do things to "condemn" the other...happens all the time. Not saying one side is more right or wrong than the other, just saying it happens. We'll see this stame crap happen after the 2012 Presidental election as well.

"The more things change, the more they remain the same."
 
I know the far-righties hate MM, but I'm grateful that someone is documenting all this crap and keeping track of it. God forbid, when the next Oklahoma City happens, the FBI can't look back see where they got their marching orders and inspiration.

1. this is downright silly. in fact, at best its disengenious. we should more likely put al gore on trial fo that guy who was inspired by 'an inconvenient truth' to go on a rampage at the discovery channel buuilding. at least in that instance there is a direct connection.

2. when you come out and denounce Pres Obama and Veep Biden for actually threatening their political opponents with violence, and when you argue that the koran's openly violent passages are behind Islamist Terrorism, i'll buy that you actually accept this (highly flawed) logic. until then, you're just engaging in poop-flinging.



seriously hazlnut; you are smarter and a better poster than this.
 
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