Minneapolis Changes "Columbus Day" To "Indigenous People's Day"

[TheDemSocialist]

(WCCO) It’s been debated for years, but now the city of Minneapolis has decided to change from celebrating Columbus Day to observing Indigenous People’s Day instead.

Columbus Day has been a federal holiday since 1937, though not all states observe it, including Alaska, Hawaii, Oregon, and South Dakota.

The day has long been a hot button issue over whether it is offensive to the American Indian culture to credit Christopher Columbus with the discovery of America.

On Friday, the Minneapolis City Council voted unanimously to approve the proposal to rename the day Indigenous People’s Day.

Read more @: Minneapolis Changes "Columbus Day" To "Indigenous People's Day" - Valley News Live - KVLY/KXJB - Fargo/Grand Forks

About damn time. I think its ridiculous that we have a holiday named after this murderer anyways.

 

[CalGun]

Yeah because "Indigenous people" never killed anyone - what a load of BS

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About damn time. I think its ridiculous that we have a holiday named after this murderer anyways.

 

[jamesrage]

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About damn time. I think its ridiculous that we have a holiday named after this murderer anyways.

It is alleged by racists that Martin Luther King jr is a communist and a womanizer, we should get rid of MLK jr day.
George Washington, Ben Franklin and Alexander Hamilton owned slaves we should remove them from our currency.Thomas Jefferson was s slave owning rapist so we should definitely remove him from our currency. Andrew jackson owned slaves and expanded American territory by removing native Americans from their lands so we should remove him from our currency as well. Thanksgiving probably didn't exist and in some people's mind led to the Native Americans losing lives and land, so maybe we should abolish thanksgiving day. Fourth of July basically celebrates us kicking the british out and taking the country away from Native Americans, so we should abolish that day. (sarcasm)

 

[TheDemSocialist]

Yeah because "Indigenous people" never killed anyone - what a load of BS

Never knew that this is a response for the creation of the slave triangle, and mass murder.

 

[TheDemSocialist]

It is alleged by racists that Martin Luther King jr is a communist and a womanizer, we should get rid of MLK jr day.

Well he was a socialist. Didnt know that being a socialist and someone who gets laid equates to mass murder and the slave trade.

George Washington, Ben Franklin and Alexander Hamilton owned slaves we should remove them from our currency.

That is a good question.

 

[jamesrage]

Well he was a socialist. Didnt know that being a socialist and someone who gets laid equates to mass murder and the slave trade.

Socialism and communism has led to the deaths of millions of people in other parts of the world.Also murder is a legal technicality, if it is legal to kill someone then it is not murder.

That is a good question.

We can look at practically all the past historical figures and find something on them that we do not like or is completely horrible by today's standards. We shouldn't go banning days, changing names or what ever the hell else because someone is offended by what that historical figure did.The historical figure is honored for what he or she allegedly did that people think is great, not what people think is bad.

 

[Beaudreaux]

Absolutely ridiculous and absurd extension of political correctness.

Also, I agree with Post #3. The sarcasm that is. Well said james.

 

[TheDemSocialist]

Socialism and communism has led to the deaths of millions of people in other parts of the world.

Same could be said about capitalism.

Also murder is a legal technicality, if it is legal to kill someone then it is not murder.

Does this excuse the holocaust?
Where millions of people not murdered during the holocaust?

We can look at practically all the past historical figures and find something on them that we do not like or is completely horrible by today's standards. We shouldn't go banning days, changing names or what ever the hell else because someone is offended by what that historical figure did.The historical figure is honored for what he or she allegedly did that people think is great, not what people think is bad.

Murdering millions of people is not a case to celebrate his "legacy". Hell there is a reason as a kid you arent taught this part about Columbus.

 

[Excon]

How sad.

 

[Fiddytree]

We can look at practically all the past historical figures and find something on them that we do not like or is completely horrible by today's standards.

Yes, we can. We often do, regardless of one's ideological designation. For instance, Woodrow Wilson has had a great deal of focus lately by conservatives for his association with progressivism (even though this was the southern variety) and his racial segregation policies.

We shouldn't go banning days, changing names or what ever the hell else because someone is offended by what that historical figure did.The historical figure is honored for what he or she allegedly did that people think is great, not what people think is bad.

If it gains enough traction, I don't quite see why not. Public holidays are meant to reinforce and promote values which society currently espouses. If the holiday becomes toxic enough or outdated (see President's Day), it is perfectly reasonable for the holiday to change as a result. This becomes difficult to figure out, but conceptually, it's not outrageous and has precedent.

 

[digsbe]

So... does the holiday focus on celebrating people who were born in their respective nations of origin? What is this a celebration or commemoration of?

 

[Jack Fabulous]

I think we should do away with Arbor Day, personally. It's an elitist endeavor and is very insensitive to those who work in the logging industry.

 

[Fiddytree]

It is alleged by racists that Martin Luther King jr is a communist and a womanizer, we should get rid of MLK jr day.
George Washington, Ben Franklin and Alexander Hamilton owned slaves we should remove them from our currency.Thomas Jefferson was s slave owning rapist so we should definitely remove him from our currency. Andrew jackson owned slaves and expanded American territory by removing native Americans from their lands so we should remove him from our currency as well. Thanksgiving probably didn't exist and in some people's mind led to the Native Americans losing lives and land, so maybe we should abolish thanksgiving day. Fourth of July basically celebrates us kicking the british out and taking the country away from Native Americans, so we should abolish that day. (sarcasm)

I'm not immediately in favor of changing public holidays unless it becomes counter-productive to continue their support. Likewise, I'm not in favor of changing currency until it becomes counter-productive to do continue as is. Nevertheless, my goal is for the State to be able to do whatever is necessary to have good nationalism. If you don't have enough folks taking pride in portions of the past, find something for them to latch onto that is still in keeping with values and less toxic.

 

[jamesrage]

Does this excuse the holocaust?
Where millions of people not murdered during the holocaust?

Genocide is never excusable

Murdering millions of people is not a case to celebrate his "legacy".

No one celebrates Columbus day over any of the bad stuff he did just as no one celebrates MLK jr day over his alleged womanizing and communism.

Hell there is a reason as a kid you arent taught this part about Columbus.

We didn't have ******s trying to make feel guilty over our historical figures, that is why we were not taught about his bad things.

 

[TheDemSocialist]

Genocide is never excusable

So Columbus partook in genocide as well.

No one celebrates Columbus day over any of the bad stuff he did just as no one celebrates MLK jr day over his alleged womanizing and communism.

Yea they just choose to ignore that bad **** right? I mean like the genocide of million indigenous people, the creation of slave trade. I mean thats almost equivalent to MLK (he was an open socialist), and getting laid :lamo

We didn't have ******s trying to make feel guilty over our historical figures, that is why we were not taught about his bad things.

:lamo
Yea lets just revise all of history. Forget all the bad **** in history cuz of "******s"

 

[jamesrage]

So Columbus partook in genocide as well.

Don't know don't care.Its not why we celebrate Columbus day.Just like Communism and womanizing is not why we celebrate MLK jr day.

Yea they just choose to ignore that bad **** right? I mean like the genocide of million indigenous people, the creation of slave trade. I mean thats almost equivalent to MLK (he was an open socialist), and getting laid

Its not about equivalence. Its the fact that if look at a lot of historical figures you will find a lot of objectionable ****.Changing holidays, names of buildings and etc because you do not like that person's past is idiotic.




:lamo

Yea lets just revise all of history. Forget all the bad **** in history cuz of "******s"

******s are the ones who whine about.

 

[Wiseone]

Absolutely ridiculous and absurd extension of political correctness.

Also, I agree with Post #3. The sarcasm that is. Well said james.

Columbus Day itself was created partly as an act of political correctness, namely in response to anti-Italian discrimination in the United States. The man was Italian and it was looked upon as a good move to bring a famous Italian to the forefront to help resolve the problem, much in the same way one could say the creation of Black History Month was done in part to help overcome black discrimination in the US.

How Columbus Sailed Into U.S. History, Thanks To Italians : Code Switch : NPR

 

[Wiseone]

Yeah because "Indigenous people" never killed anyone - what a load of BS

I didn't know that murder by a specific individual was justified against other people so long as you broadly generalize them into a group and hold them all collectively responsible. I wonder if someone on trail for the killing of a black person today could use "Yeah because its not like black people never killed anyone" as a defense.

I doubt it.

 

[Perotista]

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About damn time. I think its ridiculous that we have a holiday named after this murderer anyways.

LOL, is this a joke? indigenous People's Day, you can't get any more PC than that.

I really don't care what they call Columbus day, they could do away with it for all I care. The only people who have it off is government workers and the banks are closed. It is nothing more than just another day to everyone else. But if we are going to have an "Indigenous People's Day," then we should have another day for everyone else, a day for blacks, Asians, Hispanics, for Europeans etc. We want to be PC and not discriminate against everyone else.

Indigenous Peoples day, the fact is there are no indigenous people in the Americas, everyone of else came here from someplace else.

 

[polgara]

LOL, is this a joke? indigenous People's Day, you can't get any more PC than that.

I really don't care what they call Columbus day, they could do away with it for all I care. The only people who have it off is government workers and the banks are closed. It is nothing more than just another day to everyone else. But if we are going to have an "Indigenous People's Day," then we should have another day for everyone else, a day for blacks, Asians, Hispanics, for Europeans etc. We want to be PC and not discriminate against everyone else.

Indigenous Peoples day, the fact is there are no indigenous people in the Americas, everyone of else came here from someplace else.

Pero, the average person on the street probably can't even pronounce the word "indigenous," let alone tell you what it means! So what difference does it make to them - their life goes on the same as yesterday, and as long as they're not inconvenienced too much, they don't care. I do think this PC stuff is getting out of hand, though, especially since, as you point out, it doesn't apply to anyone at all that's here. Hilarious!

Greetings, Pero. :2wave:

 

[TheDemSocialist]

Don't know don't care.Its not why we celebrate Columbus day.Just like Communism and womanizing is not why we celebrate MLK jr day.

But it happened! You are celebrating the life of a man who "discovered" (more like just stumbled upon luckily, but i dont think the indigenous people of the land thought they were lucky) the "New World" and then started a slave trade and slaughtered millions. It happened. Its like having Mussolini day in Italy but just forgetting all the bad stuff he did.

And its a pathetic comparison to compare the slaughter of millions of indigenous people to a man who fought for civil rights (And for the 8th time the only people who think MLK was a communist are white supramisists to try to downplay him. He was an open socialist), and having more then one sex partner.

Its not about equivalence. Its the fact that if look at a lot of historical figures you will find a lot of objectionable ****.Changing holidays, names of buildings and etc because you do not like that person's past is idiotic.

Sleeping around and murdering people is "objectionable ****"?

:lamo

******s are the ones who whine about.

Or the reasonable.

 

[Perotista]

Pero, the average person on the street probably can't even pronounce the word "indigenous," let alone tell you what it means! So what difference does it make to them - their life goes on the same as yesterday, and as long as they're not inconvenienced too much, they don't care. I do think this PC stuff is getting out of hand, though, especially since, as you point out, it doesn't apply to anyone at all that's here. Hilarious!

Greetings, Pero. :2wave:

Its getting close to bed time, just waiting on the wife. You know they can do away with Columbus Day for all I care. It means nothing anymore to anybody except government workers who get the day off with pay. I can't even remember the last time there was a Columbus day parade where I live. I can remember them as a kid growing up, but not now. I don't even know when Columbus Day is. Why not just do away with it, if everyone is like me, no one even notice it was done away with. That is except government workers.

 

[Del Zeppnile]

So Columbus partook in genocide as well.

So did the Aztecs, so what?

Because if the Aztecs had discovered gunpowder and had the technology to build ships and learned to effectively navigate the globe; then I'm sure they would have sailed to Europe and cut the hearts out of Europeans too.

 

[TheDemSocialist]

So did the Aztecs, so what?

Because if the Aztecs had discovered gunpowder and had the technology to build ships and learned to effectively navigate the globe; then I'm sure they would have sailed to Europe and cut the hearts out of Europeans too.

Yayyy! Lets justify genocide and keep on celebrating people who partook in genocide!

 

[Del Zeppnile]

Yayyy! Lets justify genocide and keep on celebrating people who partook in genocide!

My point was that Aztecs are indigenous people and they committed genocide. And if you ever really looked into the history of indigenous tribes there were many, many atrocities committed against other tribes. To this day members of the Crow Nation really don't like members of the Lakota tribe. Why? Because the 'sacred hills' that the Lakota claim as their sacred land used to belong to the Crow people before they were forcibly run off of their land by the Lakota.

Did the Romans commit genocide? Just curious if you think we should stop celebrating the accomplishments of the Roman empire? Should we change the names of July and August to something else because of the imperialists Julius and Augustus?

Should we drop the name Washington D.C. (district of Columbia) because 'Columbia' celebrates Christopher Columbus? Hey, that is even a double whammy. Washington a slave owner, and Columbus a genocidal maniac.


Get over it already.