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rahl said:
I can own a 30 round magazine in all 50 states
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On November 30, 2021, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a state law banning large-capacity magazines (LCMs). The court held that Penal Code 32310’s ban on LCMs did not significantly violate self-defense rights.

Plus federal law has had such bans too, they sunseted but were not overturned.
 
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rahl said:
Then clarify
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Sorry. I know you joined late so I am not blaming you, but I have covered all that already. I don't have enough time to rehash it all.

Maybe another time.
 
Rucker61 said:
I never said that you said it. It's an extrapolation from your position that just because courts made decisions, regardless of the reasoning behind them, that they were good decisions.

All bans on AR-15s and standard capacity magazines are bad decisions that ignore the Supreme Court.
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The courts have upheld such bans.
 
NolanVoyd said:
On November 30, 2021, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a state law banning large-capacity magazines (LCMs). The court held that Penal Code 32310’s ban on LCMs did not significantly violate self-defense rights.

Plus federal law has had such bans too, they sunseted but were not overturned.
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and yet I can own one in all 50 states. weird.
 
NolanVoyd said:
Sorry. I know you joined late so I am not blaming you, but I have covered all that already. I don't have enough time to rehash it all.

Maybe another time.
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So you are just here to troll. I'll accept your concession then. Nobody has to justify why they want to exercise their rights.
 
NolanVoyd said:
On November 30, 2021, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a state law banning large-capacity magazines (LCMs). The court held that Penal Code 32310’s ban on LCMs did not significantly violate self-defense rights.
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Based on what?
NolanVoyd said:
Plus federal law has had such bans too, they sunseted but were not overturned.
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Why were those Constitutional?
 
rahl said:
So you are just here to troll. I'll accept your concession then. Nobody has to justify why they want to exercise their rights.
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Not at all.

Just not here to go in circles over and over.
 
Rucker61 said:
Based on what?

Why were those Constitutional?
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You don't know how our system works do you.

Laws are unconstitutional when the Supreme Court overturns them. If they do not, the law is constitutional.
 
NolanVoyd said:
Not trying to.
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then you realize everyone knows you are trolling.

Or you could simply answer the question. You won't though, because you are just here to troll.
 
rahl said:
the supreme court has never ruled on it.
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And declining to rule on it results in the law being constitutional.

The federal ban was challenged but not overturned.
 
rahl said:
then you realize everyone knows you are trolling.

Or you could simply answer the question. You won't though, because you are just here to troll.
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I have answered the question. Several times.
 
rahl said:
No it doesn’t

It was never heard
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Yes. Actually it does.

Any law that has not been overturned is constitutional.

Let's say an appeals court rules on the Constitutionality of a law, and the Supreme Court declines to take up the appeal (that happens all the time) then the ruling of the appeals court stands.

So if the appeals Court upheld the law, and the Supreme Court declines to take it up on appeal, then the law is constitutional.
 
NolanVoyd said:
Yes. Actually it does.
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It doesn’t.
NolanVoyd said:
Any law that has not been overturned is constitutional.
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Nope
NolanVoyd said:
Let's say an appeals court rules on the Constitutionality of a law, and the Supreme Court declines to take up the appeal (that happens all the time) then the ruling of the appeals court stands.
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Which does not constitute a ruling on its constitutionality.
NolanVoyd said:
So if the appeals Court upheld the law, and the Supreme Court declines to take it up on appeal, then the law is constitutional.
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Nope
 
rahl said:
It doesn’t.

Nope

Which does not constitute a ruling on its constitutionality.

Nope
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You have no idea how our system works do you?

A law is constitutional unless and until it is overturned. If it has not been overturned it is case law and considered constitutional.
 
rahl said:
Which does not constitute a ruling on its constitutionality.

Nope
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This is an absolute fact.

If the appeals court upholds a law, and the Supreme Court declines to take it up on appeal, then the law stands as constitutional.
 
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