The legal prosecution and the fact of an insurrection are two different things. In this case it was a violent uprising against a legitimate government, regardless of what cases might be brought.
I think you, and many others, are over playing this, by a significant amount, for perceived political gain.
There was no insurrection. There was no sedition. There was no treason.
There was disruption / obstruction of congress.
There was destruction of property and criminal trespass.
Viewing something on TV is not the same as facts.
Forming an opinion on what you've seen on TV is not the same as facts.
In the end, how does one, or the public, determine or obtain the facts of the events that day?
Certainly not by impressions gathered from viewing TV coverage of those events.
The FBI investigation is tasked with determining the facts of the events that day. These are reflected in the charges federal prosecutors file, at least until there is additional facts and evidence released to the public.
The fact that Jan 6 was against the federal government, which is the heart of the country in many ways, is why this is worse and its own category.
Meh. It's arguable whether 'the heart of the country' is the 'federal government'. I would rather think that the 'the heart of the country' is the heart of the American electorate.
The closest we can get from a place like portland was when a federal courthouse was the target.
A good point. Interesting to note that there were no cries of insurrection. sedition or treason in this case, or at least that I can recall. Why do you think that this was the case in this instance?
That is certainly a standard you want to keep asserting. I don't agree that its necessary.
Then on which facts are you forming an opinion?
How do you obtain those facts on which you are forming your opinion?
That was more of a progressive thing (and one of the reasons I switched my label from progressive back to liberal). There is more than one camp in that group and there's a reason I already mentioned that the far left tends to be less accurate about things than the moderate left, when media bias was discussed (this principal I stated is true for more than just media).
Personally, I think the far right and far left have both left reality in many ways at this point.
I'm leaning very much so to agreeing with you on this point. Not sure where on the political spectrum I fall, being conservative with libertarian tendencies on many topics.
I would say, off the back of my head, about ten or so regular members. I admit I don't pay attention though, I tend to focus my attention on higher quality posters.
Fair enough. I tend to focus my attention on posters with which I can 'chew the fat' on news and political topics, and always try to leave room for 'we can agree to disagree' on any particular topic.
There is nothing better than to go through the exercise of formulating your opinion into verbiage, coherently expressing them, have them challenged, and defend them in reasonable discussion. It tends to burn away wrong assumptions and bring other perspectives into consideration.
Hit a nerve did I? Don't like being called out for what you are, do you? If I offended you .... excellent, then I hit my mark. I mean to offend the likes of you. Better to be an angry conspiracy theorist than a card carrying Nazi.
