Well, see, there's that whole argument against the Bell Curve....Soviet_Guy said:How about it, to position everyone according to their I.Q.
Soviet_Guy said:Yeah, have no explanation about the influction of communists. My I.Q. is 137, but I'm still in Grade 12, for 3 more weeks anyway.
Since high school (I graduated in 1986...I am 37 years old) I have had several IQ tests that have ranged from 112 to 140something. The one I took my senior year right before joining the military was 123 & my most recent was 131. I suppose that means I'm not an idiot, nor am I a genius. I think the reason for differing results are because of areas in which the test relies heavily on. Not all IQ tests are the same & they do tend to lean toward a certain type of knowledge/thinking & are not universal as the test creators would have you believe. Also as we mature/get older our general knowledge/thinking does change & one would hope gets better.geek said:Not necessarily, RightatNYU. IQ can go up over time, depending on the experiences in between. I took one when I was 16 and got 132. I took another one about 3 weeks ago, and I just turned 18 yesterday, and I got a 148. It's still in the same area.. but there is a significant difference.
Were they actual IQ tests, not online ones? Online ones are uniformly worse than useless. If you take a comprehensive IQ test, your score remains unchanged from the age of 16 onwards. It doesnt test knowledge, it tests ability to learn, which doesn't develop with age. Of course there's differences in individual testing situations, but the whole premise of IQ tests is that they're naturally standardized. A deviation such as you had should not have happened.geek said:Not necessarily, RightatNYU. IQ can go up over time, depending on the experiences in between. I took one when I was 16 and got 132. I took another one about 3 weeks ago, and I just turned 18 yesterday, and I got a 148. It's still in the same area.. but there is a significant difference.
That's not what IQ tests test. True IQ tests (not the horrible online things) test ability to learn, not what you know. That trait is (as the theory goes) inherent and does not develop or decline as you age. Nothing that you learn affects it.Soviet_Guy said:Yeah, I took my first I.Q. a month before turning 15, and since then I've learned a great deal more about Wordl War II, and every other important war since 100 B.C. but that's because I wasn't interested in war before then. Also, your mathematical knowledge should go up as well, and also your english skills, so your I.Q. should go up at least 10 points after 5+ years, until you reach 25 or so.
I was to the understanding that IQ tests tested your ability to think & process information as well as your ability to learn. However, I think you're wrong when you say that this is a trait that can't be developed. I think the use of one's brain does help it develop into a learning tool. I think the more you learn the more you have to help you logically think through any situation, etc. Although I could be wrong.RightatNYU said:That's not what IQ tests test. True IQ tests (not the horrible online things) test ability to learn, not what you know. That trait is (as the theory goes) inherent and does not develop or decline as you age. Nothing that you learn affects it.
Actually, no. IQ tests are converted from raw scores to scaled scores to correct for age up to the age of 16 or 18 depending on the test. IQ itself does not change.geek said:Er, no, they weren't online tests. They were test's I scheduled through my guidance counselor at my high school. I believe it was the same 'company' who made the two tests I took.
To say that you can't learn how to learn is silly. Your mind develops with experience and through obtaining more knowledge. I believe Arthur has a better understanding of the purpose of IQ tests.
http://www.pediatrics.emory.edu/NEONATOLOGY/DPC/faq.htm#5IQ is an abbreviation for Intelligence Quotient. “Intelligence,” as measured by IQ tests is rather narrowly defined. An IQ is intended as a predictor of the level of abilities a child will need to be successful in school. In the general population this score becomes relatively stable after about four years of age.