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Man gives change to homeless person, is handcuffed and held by police for an hour

They police should be responsible for the damage to the car. They won't be, police can do whatever they want whenever they want it seems. Kill homeless men, shoot at random vehicles, shoot kids with toy guns, steal, intimidate, vandalize, etc. This is what happens when you begin to live in a police state.
 
From the article "Snider agreed to let police search his cars for drugs, and they did so for an hour while Greg remained handcuffed. In that time, ten more police cars showed up and pulled over."

Ten more police cars, TEN MORE POLICE CARS?? My god, I am speechless. Time out.
 
Man gives change to homeless person, is handcuffed and held by police for an hour

Man gives change to homeless person, is handcuffed and held by police for an hour

I can understand laws against giving money to panhandlers.Panhandlers want that money for drugs or alcohol and giving money to these people only ecourages more pan handling and furthers their drug or alcohol problem. But at most it should be a fine. It is ridiculous to detain someone for an hour for giving money to bums.
 
I can understand laws against giving money to panhandlers.Panhandlers want that money for drugs or alcohol and giving money to these people only ecourages more pan handling and furthers their drug or alcohol problem. But at most it should be a fine. It is ridiculous to detain someone for an hour for giving money to bums.

In my town if someone breaks into your car you just get to make a police report as they are too busy to come and investigate. How in hell can you free up 11 patrol cars for what may look like one man selling drugs?
 
I can understand laws against giving money to panhandlers.Panhandlers want that money for drugs or alcohol and giving money to these people only ecourages more pan handling and furthers their drug or alcohol problem. But at most it should be a fine. It is ridiculous to detain someone for an hour for giving money to bums.

How very small government of you.
 
From the article "Snider agreed to let police search his cars for drugs, and they did so for an hour while Greg remained handcuffed. In that time, ten more police cars showed up and pulled over."

Ten more police cars, TEN MORE POLICE CARS?? My god, I am speechless. Time out.

Cop time and money is wasted all the time... ever see a pull over like that? I have. Cops pulled some kids over. Hand cuffed them. 8-10 more cop cars pulled up. A couple left... most stayed. Cops just standing around. No crowd. Nothing for them to do... just chatting. Took 30-40 minutes. They let the kids drive off. About 6-7 cops stood around chatting and laughing about whatever for at least 30 more minutes. I just thought, "man, that explains those wait times when you call 9-11 when some guy is breaking into a house with you in it!"
 
Yes, we live in a police state, but then the drug war has been going on for decades.

A similar series of events will play out somewhere in Amerika, soon. :(
 
I can understand laws against giving money to panhandlers. Panhandlers want that money for drugs or alcohol and giving money to these people only ecourages more pan handling and furthers their drug or alcohol problem. But at most it should be a fine. It is ridiculous to detain someone for an hour for giving money to bums.

I agree that many panhandlers want the money for drugs or alcohol. No debate there. However, we have a problem.

The problem is that what someone does with money voluntarily given to them by a stranger is, generally, not our business. If you feel as if someone is trying to ask for a handout to pay for drugs, then do not give them money; it is a personal choice, not the government's. I think it's wrong to simply assume that one person has malicious intentions simply because others in similar situations have had malicious intentions in the past.

If a panhandler gets free money and then uses it to buy drugs and he successfully hides those drugs from those whom would seek to perform a citizen's arrest or from law enforcement agencies, then as far as the government and any proud U.S. citizen should be concerned, the bill of rights has succeeded in doing its job. We haven't outlawed common sense. It a homeless person comes up and asks for change and he have needle marks all over his arms, don't give him money. If a homeless person comes up asking for change and he reeks of alcohol, don't give him money. If a person with good intentions gives money to a homeless person who in turn spends it on drugs, don't put that person, who may simply be naive, in jail!

You have a leak in the roof? The U.S. solution is to create 10 unneeded jobs and waste taxpayer money to have plumbers install a drain in the floor because to hell with the actual problem, right?

I am surprised that this guy only "filed a complaint." Why not sue the police department? We already know the solution to the problem because it seems that almost all of these stories I see in the news where the police give someone undue harassment/beatings/detention/arrest/intimidation/etc. all start with an illegal stop, but no one ever fights it. I would think that it is because the average person who cannot afford a lawyer also has no knowledge of the legal process such as going to the court house and swearing an affidavit for an arrest or how to file for a civil judgement.
 
I agree that many panhandlers want the money for drugs or alcohol. No debate there. However, we have a problem.

The problem is that what someone does with money voluntarily given to them by a stranger is, generally, not our business. If you feel as if someone is trying to ask for a handout to pay for drugs, then do not give them money; it is a personal choice, not the government's. I think it's wrong to simply assume that one person has malicious intentions simply because others in similar situations have had malicious intentions in the past.

If a panhandler gets free money and then uses it to buy drugs and he successfully hides those drugs from those whom would seek to perform a citizen's arrest or from law enforcement agencies, then as far as the government and any proud U.S. citizen should be concerned, the bill of rights has succeeded in doing its job. We haven't outlawed common sense. It a homeless person comes up and asks for change and he have needle marks all over his arms, don't give him money. If a homeless person comes up asking for change and he reeks of alcohol, don't give him money. If a person with good intentions gives money to a homeless person who in turn spends it on drugs, don't put that person, who may simply be naive, in jail!

You have a leak in the roof? The U.S. solution is to create 10 unneeded jobs and waste taxpayer money to have plumbers install a drain in the floor because to hell with the actual problem, right?

You may want panhandlers hassling you for money every-time you step outside your home or place of employment and you may not feel any guilt fueling someone's drug or alcohol problem doesn't mean other people want the same. The solution is to ban people from giving money to bums. If you really want to help the homeless out there is the salvation army and other charities that provide food and sometimes shelter.If you see a panhandler on the corner then direct him to your local salvation army, soup kitchen or some other facility that aids the homeless.
 
You may want panhandlers hassling you for money every-time you step outside your home or place of employment and you may not feel any guilt fueling someone's drug or alcohol problem doesn't mean other people want the same. The solution is to ban people from giving money to bums. If you really want to help the homeless out there is the salvation army and other charities that provide food and sometimes shelter.If you see a panhandler on the corner then direct him to your local salvation army, soup kitchen or some other facility that aids the homeless.

Yes because making it illegal to give change to bums will definitely stop them from asking for change. That's gun law logic. Plus, if you feel like there needs to be some punishment in the interaction of bumming on the sidewalk, that isn't unreasonable, but when you have a beggar and a charitable person, why punish the person who has good intentions? It isn't like they asked the beggar to ask for things, so just punish the beggar if someone must be punished. Beggars are only annoying if you let them be. I just use them as verbal rage punching bags since I have become accustomed to the usual persistence of beggars, and if you aren't firm with them regardless of their b.s. stories they may or may not tell you, then I can see why they would be bothersome.

If you have a leak in the roof let's install a drain in the floor right? The leak? The beggar. The water drops? The people giving them money. The drain? Arrest the people giving money. Fixing the leak? Try to get homeless people homes.
 
I can understand laws against giving money to panhandlers.Panhandlers want that money for drugs or alcohol and giving money to these people only ecourages more pan handling and furthers their drug or alcohol problem. But at most it should be a fine. It is ridiculous to detain someone for an hour for giving money to bums.
As bizarre as it is the law against pan handling had nothing to do with bums and their drug use. I would think this occurs in other places but I am not certain. We had a few problems here with little league teams and other youth organizations pan handing to fund their teams. The fact that they were panhandling wasn't the issue, it was that several children were getting killed in traffic.

As far as them suspecting the citizen for being a drug dealer, that is simply the ineptitude of HPD and as politely as I can say it, they don't believe their excrement stinks.
 
From the article "Snider agreed to let police search his cars for drugs, and they did so for an hour while Greg remained handcuffed. In that time, ten more police cars showed up and pulled over."

Ten more police cars, TEN MORE POLICE CARS?? My god, I am speechless. Time out.

Yep, that is HPD for you. There are thousands of similar instances. I used to wonder when I lived in their jurisdiction why I could never get an officer to respond. Turns out they are doing this nonsense.
 
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