liberal conservative real life comparison

[opendebate]

That's because you're not really a liberal. At least, not in today's sense of the word.

So what am I?

 

[soot]

My kid, the five year old, was hungry the other day.

I gave him a musket and a flint and steel and sent him out into the woods.

He came back empty handed and hungry, but he learned an important lesson, that I can be a real dick.

 

[opendebate]

I do. Some of us make policy for people who can help themselves based on those who can't. Do you think otherwise?

It's based on a very over simplified point of view in my opinion. Some people will eventually, perhaps with greater struggle, but will eventually figure it out and succeed but some won't and those who don't are unable for a variety of reasons. I chose not to assume that in each and every case it's because they haven't worked hard enough or are lazy or whatever other negative assumption some may chose to make.

 

[opendebate]

I have no problem helping little kids. Heck a while back two of the woman I had working for me had their 5 year old boys in the office and they were bored so one of the girls bought them a Hotwheels set. The kids were in back playing around but in 5 minutes were bored again so I went back to help. I showed them that if they started the track higher they could get better speed then I showed them how to add a hill in the middle of the track then I got them working on jumps. Later on I cut the middle out of a paper plate and showed them how to get the cars to jump through the hoop.

I had to stop when one of the women overheard me explaining that if we lit the plate on fire it would be even better....

Now THAT would have made it fun!!

 

[sangha]

You see, this is the problem with people who think like you. You cling to your preconceptions about people because it makes you feel safe. Sorry brother, you are wrong. Or you could just be razzin' me.

sawyer is doing a fine job of demonstrating one difference between the left and the right

Righties can't ever admit that they were wrong

 

[sawyerloggingon]

So what am I?

You are a conservative in denial. It is a common condition especially among the younger crowd and is brought on by a very successful campaign by Hollywood and the liberal media to demonize conservatives. You are taught that conservatives are mean hearted hateful people and since you are neither you must not be conservative, your answer to my story says otherwise though. This story and your answer to what you would do in that situation is like a test to judge if you are lib or con. You are con.

 

[FederalRepublic]

So what am I?

Conservative in denial....

 

[FederalRepublic]

It's based on a very over simplified point of view in my opinion. Some people will eventually, perhaps with greater struggle, but will eventually figure it out and succeed but some won't and those who don't are unable for a variety of reasons. I chose not to assume that in each and every case it's because they haven't worked hard enough or are lazy or whatever other negative assumption some may chose to make.

Yet you don't believe in doing things for people when they can do it on their own.

 

[FederalRepublic]

You are a conservative in denial.

Funny.

 

[sawyerloggingon]

Funny.

Great minds think alike.

 

[soot]

sawyer is doing a fine job of demonstrating one difference between the left and the right

Righties can't ever admit that they were wrong

I don't necessarially think he was "wrong".

I mean, of course not every liberal would have rushed over to help the kids out, and not every conservative would have sat there and watched.

Likewise, not every liberal is always inclined to give a man a fish and not every conservative is always inclined to teach a man to fish.

But as a general observation in respect steroetypical caricatures of either idiology he was right enough that it was a funny anecdote.

 

[opendebate]

sawyer is doing a fine job of demonstrating one difference between the left and the right

Righties can't ever admit that they were wrong

Rarely at best. I think it is fear based.

 

[opendebate]

You are a conservative in denial. It is a common condition especially among the younger crowd and is brought on by a very successful campaign by Hollywood and the liberal media to demonize conservatives. You are taught that conservatives are mean hearted hateful people and since you are neither you must not be conservative, your answer to my story says otherwise though. This story and your answer to what you would do in that situation is like a test to judge if you are lib or con. You are con.

You are right I am a simple minded puppet of Hollywood and the liberal media because that's the only way anyone would ever brand themselves a liberal, either that or it's an elaborate ploy to get into George Clooney's pants.

 

[shrubnose]

If you really wanted to teach them a lesson you'd have stolen the broken bike while they were gone.

I'm totally down with this excellent idea.

 

[opendebate]

Yet you don't believe in doing things for people when they can do it on their own.

I believe in helping them learn that they are capable if everyone and everything around them has convinced them they are not.

 

[FederalRepublic]

I believe in helping them learn that they are capable if everyone and everything around them has convinced them they are not.

Like I said, you're in denial.

 

[sawyerloggingon]

You are right I am a simple minded puppet of Hollywood and the liberal media because that's the only way anyone would ever brand themselves a liberal, either that or it's an elaborate ploy to get into George Clooney's pants.

Don't get all defensive on me, I see hope in you and will make you my pet project. I will guide you out of the darkness and into the light.

 

[shrubnose]

]I lean a bit right while my wife leans a bit left

and this became evident in a real life situation that sums up the difference. We were staying at a campground recently sitting around having drinks in the evening and watching kids play in a grassy area across from us. Two little kids came riding down the road on bicycles, the littlest one could barely ride his tiny bike. The older brother veered off into the rough grassy area and little brother tried to follow but immediately crashed. Big brother lept off his bike to help and picked the little one up saying" quit crying, you're not going to die." My lib wife wanted to go help but I stopped her, the kid was fine. Then the kids discovered the crash had twisted the handlebars and the bike could not be ridden so they were in a quandary as to what to do, the little kid was to small to carry his broken bike. My lib wife says "lets go help", I said they are figuring it out. Soon they devised a plan, they left the broken bike and big brother pushed his bike while escorting still sobbing little brother back to their campsite. Within minutes big brother came running back for the wrecked bike and carried it home. I turned to my lib wife and said "see, they figured this out on their own. They learned they were capable of handling the situation without anybody's help. This was a growing experience for them and if we had helped the only lesson they would have learned was when you get in trouble just sit there and wait for someone to help you". She had to admit I was right. THE END [/QUOTE]




I lean to the middle and my wife leans to the middle.

We mind our own business and encourage others to do the same..

 

[FederalRepublic]

Don't get all defensive on me, I see hope in you and will make you my pet project. I will guide you out of the darkness and into the light.

OD, you will hereafter refer to him as Sensei :lamo

 

[opendebate]

Like I said, you're in denial.

I will take that as your last resort when you realize that a liberal is making sense and maybe, just maybe ... has a point.

 

[sawyerloggingon]

I lean to the middle and my wife leans to the middle.

We mind our own business and encourage others to do the same..

There is no middle, it is an illusion. You are either to the right or to the left of this non existent middle ground, try to stand on it and you will find nothing is there to stand on. The middle is a vortex, a chasm a black hole even.

 

[sawyerloggingon]

OD, you will hereafter refer to him as Sensei :lamo

I will refer to her as "Grasshopper". :lol:

 

[FederalRepublic]

I will take that as your last resort when you realize that a liberal is making sense and maybe, just maybe ... has a point.

You do have a point, and that's the point. Welcome to the dark side.

 

[shrubnose]

I am a liberal and always made my kids struggle to figure it out on their own until I saw that they were truly at a loss.

Give a man fish...

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Start a fire for a man and he is warm for a while.

Set a man on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life.




"Better days are coming." ~ But not for todays out of touch, running out of time, GOP.

 

[FederalRepublic]

Seriously, this has been fun. I needed that.