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Kristi Putin: we're going to "liberate LA" from "burdensome leadership"

Napoleon said:
I’m pointing out that making terroristic threats is a federal crime and the posts from leftist members are starting to become perilously close to that.
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Do you not understand the reference to Sulla and the Roman Senate?
 
reinaert said:
Do you not understand the reference to Sulla and the Roman Senate?
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I understand you’re making a thinly veiled threat of sedition and insurrection. Now, would you like to clarify what you think people should be doing?
 
Napoleon said:
I’m pointing out that making terroristic threats is a federal crime and the posts from leftist members are starting to become perilously close to that.
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Where was a terroristic threat made? What post? Be specific.
 
reinaert said:
Then, obviously, your understanding is constrained by its own absence.
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I certainly hope so. This is not the administration to **** around and find out with and those things come with hefty penalties.
 
Napoleon said:
This is the face of a man who comes to the sudden realization that….no one is above the law. Echo. Echo. Echo.

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Seems there are in Trump's world. If no one is above the law why did Trump pardon those who assaulted LEO's on Jan6.
He keeps saying how badly the Jan6 protesters who assaulted LEO's were treated. He tells us he will not tolerate people disrespecting and injuring LEO's.
Trump cannot have it both ways. He has shown his cards. Some just are to blind to see it.
 
mike2810 said:
Seems there are in Trump's world. If no one is above the law why did Trump pardon those who assaulted LEO's on Jan6.
He keeps saying how badly the Jan6 protesters who assaulted LEO's were treated. He tells us he will not tolerate people disrespecting and injuring LEO's.
Trump cannot have it both ways. He has shown his cards. Some just are to blind to see it.
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Still flogging that dead horse?
 
mike2810 said:
still not able to say why one action is ok but the other is not.
got it.
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If you need me to explain to you that indiscriminate violence, vandalism, and looting drugs is not ok then you’re too far gone.
 
Napoleon said:
I certainly hope so. This is not the administration to **** around and find out with and things come with hefty penalties.
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What you hope matters not one bit. That, without even taking that device at your fingertips and googling Sulla - a unique name, most any search for which brings you to Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix - you decided to threaten people you don't know, with connections and kin you've no idea of, with the power of Behemoth, to ****ing disappear them...

I mean, come on man.

By the way, Sulla was dictator of Rome, fat, mercurial, had his enemies vanished, manufactured crises to consolidate his power, and the Roman Senate flopped up its soft white underbelly to him.

Needful follow up. One of his targets was a young G. Julius Caesar, and Sulla set in motion Caesar's fixation on never being subject again. It all spelled the end of Roman liberty, however flawed it was.
 
reinaert said:
What you hope matters not one bit. That, without even taking that device at your fingertips and googling Sulla - a unique name, most any search for which brings you to Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix - you decided to threaten people you don't know, with connections and kin you've no idea of, with the power of Behemoth, to ****ing disappear them...

I mean, come on man.

By the way, Sulla was dictator of Rome, fat, mercurial, had his enemies vanished, manufactured crises to consolidate his power, and the Roman Senate flopped up its soft white underbelly to him.

Needful follow up. One of his targets was a young G. Julius Caesar, and Sulla set in motion Caesar's fixation in never being subject again. It all spelled the end of Roman liberty, however flawed it was.
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I know plenty about the history of Rome and I know what you’re insinuating. Would you like to clarify what you think people should do? Because inciting sedition and insurrection could be very problematic.
 
Felis Leo said:
Hey, so apparently it was not that big a deal. Did you see Senator Padilla's statement from just a little while ago?



Padilla himself claims he was not detained. These people like Schumer, Jeffries and Padilla are all cut from the same cloth. They are all the same person. The Democratic Party is led and manned by a pack of anti-charismatic, anti-principled, anti-strength, anti-competent, weak-willed corporate stooges (and corporate lobbyists in training, in many cases). They are controlled opposition. They will not save us because they do not want to save us. They must be replaced.
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In Spanish he mentions the word "junta".
 
Mr Person said:
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Sen. Alex Padilla was forcibly removed from a news conference Thursday morning with Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem. Noem was speaking in Los Angeles about recent ICE operations in the region when Padilla was removed from the room after saying, "You insist on exaggerating." At least two men approached Padilla, a Democrat, near a wall and pushed him through doors near the rear of the room. He can be heard saying, "I am Sen. Alex Padilla and I have questions for the secretary."​
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Noem had been speaking on California and Los Angeles leadership moments before Padilla was removed. "We're not going away," Noem said just before the disruption. "We are going to liberate the city from the burdensome leadership, mayor and governor."​

www.nbclosangeles.com

Video: Sen. Alex Padilla forcibly removed from Kristi Noem news conference

Sen. Alex Padilla was forcibly removed from a news conference Thursday morning with Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem.
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Noem said, “We are not going away. We are staying here to liberate the city from the socialist and the burdensome leadership that this governor and this mayor have placed on this country and what they have tried to insert into this city.”​

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California Sen. Padilla removed from press conference, forced to ground and handcuffed

The U.S. senator representing California was seen being taken out of a room full of journalists by two men as Noem continued to speak.
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And https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...migration-press-conference-noem-b2769116.html


So...what? Just disappear the leaders and install illegitimate Trump toadies a the point of a gun? Is LA where Trump begins his campaign to become America's Putin?

Or is it more of that "just hyperbole" until the thing happens, at which point, the pivot will be "ok but you made us do it", then "so what", then "ok it's bad but you're worse"?

Think of all the times they told you you were paranoid, then they did exactly what you said they'd do.



Blue state governors had better get it into their heads that this isn't going way if they just keep their heads down. They're going to have to be ready for state-federal confrontation and people are going to have to be ready to flood the streets in protests that shut everything down, else accept rise of fascist dystopia and the end of "elections" in the no longer leader of the "free world".

And remember: MAGAs will troll you with lies about how you're Chicken Little, right until they're dancing over America's grave. Or should I say "Americans' graves"?
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Back when tRump was legally impeached, the radical right screeched about how this was a violation of the will of the people.

Now that tRump wants to illegally get rid of LA's duly elected leadership, the radical right cheers him on.
 
Napoleon said:
If you need me to explain to you that indiscriminate violence, vandalism, and looting drugs is not ok then you’re too far gone.
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No, I need you to explain to me why it was ok to damage the Capital and disrupt a legal government process is any different to doing damage to private/govt. property during a protest on immigration policies.
It is interesting how the Trump supporters are unable to give a good reason why one is illegal and the other is ok.




ps. I have never supported rioting, looting, vandalism during any event. Peaceful protest I do support.
 
Napoleon said:
I know plenty about the history of Rome
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Shenanigans.

Napoleon said:
and I know what you’re insinuating.
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No, no you don't. Because some people are clearly know-nothings: Sulla was not deposed. Sulla was not assassinated. Sulla retired, after looting the treasury, died of cancer, and was put to rest with the honors of the state.

Napoleon said:
Would you like to clarify what you think people should do?
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Learn Roman history before they spout off? Google, before they threaten strangers with some fascist junta snitch shit?

Napoleon said:
Because inciting sedition and insurrection could be very problematic.
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You think a reference to the Roman Senate bitching out to Sulla invites sedition, do you?

Some people be clownin'. Some just be clowns. Not you, of course. Just some people.
 
mike2810 said:
No, I need you to explain to me why it was ok to damage the Capital and disrupt a legal government process is any different to doing damage to private/govt. property during a protest.
It is interesting how the Trump supporters are unable to give a good reason why one is illegal and the other is ok.




ps. I have never supported rioting, looting, vandalism during any event. Peaceful protest I do support.
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Well, I’ll try to make it simple. Who is the appropriate target of anger as it relates to a grievance against the government? The government or your local pharmacy?
 
reinaert said:
Shenanigans.


No, no you don't. Because some people are clearly know-nothings: Sulla was not deposed. Sulla was not assassinated. Sulla retired, after looting the treasury, died of cancer, and was put to rest with the honors of the state.


Learn Roman history before they spout off? Google, before they threaten strangers with some fascist junta snitch shit?


You think a reference to the Roman Senate bitching out to Sulla invites sedition, do you?

Some people be clownin'. Some just be clowns. Not you, of course. Just some people.
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Let’s cut to the chase. For the record - are you advocating that people do sedition and insurrection? Or are you advocating that people do absolutely and unequivocally peaceful and lawful protest?
 
Phys251 said:
Back when tRump was legally impeached, the radical right screeched about how this was a violation of the will of the people.

Now that tRump wants to illegally get rid of LA's duly elected leadership, the radical right cheers him on.
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I have to pause you right there, Phys251 if only on a semantic level. It's not the radical right. It's the entire American right. There are no MAGA Republicans vs. Traditional Republicans. There is not some sort of Catholic-Protestant schism within the Republican Party. It is over. They are a monoparty.

Any anti-Trump conservatives and Republicans who remain are a sliver of a minority, and they still largely approve of what Donald Trump does because, well, they are politically on the right. If anything, the non-Trump supporting conservatives are the radical minority within the American right.
 
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