John Boehner allies fret coup attempt

[zimmer]

The President doesn't have to sign any bill. It's not his job to rubberstamp Congress.

Where did I say he had to???????

He is a different branch of government, too bad he doesn't realize Congress is too.

In fact, I think I was clear why they should do what I proposed. I believe I explained it clearly in plain English.

1. Force him to veto one bill after another. Day after day.

2. Do so to show Obama and Demokrats are obstructionists.

3. Do it so the 2016 Socialist candidate has a noose around their necks, and is tied to his behavior.

Believe me, there would be pressure from Demokrats on Obama.

But with Boner at the helm, we've got a limp dick running the show. Actually it's worse... we got a eunuch.

 

[zimmer]

I don't think so, but it is a pretty good bet at this point unless some unknown crisis occurs in the coming months

If she doesn't run you will see big increases in the preference numbers for Biden and Warren

LOL... an unexpected crisis... Like the truth about her being reported on a daily basis!!!

 

[Robert in Ohio]

LOL... an unexpected crisis... Like the truth about her being reported on a daily basis!!!

A lot of crap is flung at the wall called "Hillary" on a daily basis, but whether any or all of it sticks well enough to hurt her chances remains to be seen

 

[zimmer]

A lot of crap is flung at the wall called "Hillary" on a daily basis, but whether any or all of it sticks well enough to hurt her chances remains to be seen

Well... I expect we will get the same journ-O-lism for the 2016 race, which means full out propaganda for their Socialist candidate.

The only way to destroy this predicatable behavior is for the candidate to force the press to cover what they want. To put them, the candidate and press on the defensive. To be aggressive. Take no prisoners, have no fear.

McCain and Romney had the weakest Socialist candidate in my lifetime, and they blew it because they were fearful. How do you lose to an empty suit? Those two showed how it's done.

 

[Robert in Ohio]

McCain and Romney had the weakest Socialist candidate in my lifetime, and they blew it because they were fearful. How do you lose to an empty suit? Those two showed how it's done.

Sounds a lot like that propaganda that you deride the other side using

Ironic don't you think

I am no fan of President Obama and he is a lot of things, but he is not a socialist - he fully embraces the free market and what it can do for him and others. He is somewhat of a European Social Democrat, but not a socialist

 

[zimmer]

Sounds a lot like that propaganda that you deride the other side using

Ironic don't you think

I am no fan of President Obama and he is a lot of things, but he is not a socialist - he fully embraces the free market and what it can do for him and others. He is somewhat of a European Social Democrat, but not a socialist

ObamaKare is not free market, and his desire was one-payer styled North Korean, or Kanuckistani Kare.

He does not believe companies should make profits, except for when it pleases him. "Now is not the time for profits" were his exact words.

He believes in taxes for "equality", when they are proven to hurt the people he is raising taxes on. Recall his words on Cap Gains?

Free markets would have seen GM in the hands of investors, not the government and tax payer.

"Spread the wealth around", his words, is socialism.

His type of Capitalism is Crony Capitlaism, where government doles it out to their loved ones.

 

[Robert in Ohio]

ObamaKare is not free market, and his desire was one-payer styled North Korean, or Kanuckistani Kare.

He does not believe companies should make profits, except for when it pleases him. "Now is not the time for profits" were his exact words.

He believes in taxes for "equality", when they are proven to hurt the people he is raising taxes on. Recall his words on Cap Gains?

Free markets would have seen GM in the hands of investors, not the government and tax payer.

"Spread the wealth around", his words, is socialism.

His type of Capitalism is Crony Capitlaism, where government doles it out to their loved ones.

Nonsense - a lot of propaganda there but for one thing the PPACA as implemented did not remove health care from the free market, it increased the number of insured by shifting payments from the individual to the government, but the doctors, hospitals etc are still setting their own prices and still getting paid for their service by insurance companies, individuals and the government.

You like to paint but your brush is too broad

 

[zimmer]

Nonsense - a lot of propaganda there but for one thing the PPACA as implemented did not remove health care from the free market, it increased the number of insured by shifting payments from the individual to the government, but the doctors, hospitals etc are still setting their own prices and still getting paid for their service by insurance companies, individuals and the government.

You like to paint but your brush is too broad

You missed the end of the sentence related to ObamaKare, or ignored it.

His wish was one payer... socialism. That he could only achieve the abortion he did is merely the first step of the socialist carpenter ant. They will keep chewing away.

My painting may be broad, but accurate, and in the case of Obama and Kare, it was a size 12 sabal water-color brush (a smaller brush) with the fine, needle-like tip, also used by acrylic artists who use such brushes to accomplish photo-real detail.

Don't ask me how I know all that?

 

[Robert in Ohio]

You missed the end of the sentence related to ObamaKare, or ignored it.

His wish was one payer... socialism. That he could only achieve the abortion he did is merely the first step of the socialist carpenter ant. They will keep chewing away.

I love conspiracy theories and ideological propaganda - thanks for sharing

I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this one

 

[zimmer]

I love conspiracy theories and ideological propaganda - thanks for sharing

I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this one

Obama said it. There is tape out there about his desire for one-payer.

Here it is... takes only the first 6 seconds. And then he admits they cannot do it immediately... that it will take time. The Carpenter Ants.

Still think it's a conspiracy?



Socialists are not honest people. They will lie and deceive. Gruber laid it all out... he told us what some of us who know socialists... have known for decades.

 

[sawdust]

If all your points were true their should have been a massive turnover with high voter turnout. But since there wasn't all your points are wishful thinking.

No, there was a massive turnover but democrats were as discouraged as much as Republicans were when Romney, so turnout was low.

 

[sawdust]

Your premise is off. Boehner had been running the House before the election, and they still couldn't do their job. Go ahead and kick him out and replace him with a TPer. If you thought nothing was done before just wait until they pass a bill demanding Obama bring his birth certificate down so they can examine it.

Boehner aside, the House sent couple hundred bills to the Senate that Reid round filed. In reality, the Federal government is dysfunctional. All three branches are screwed.

 

[Fletch]

What exactly did the House accomplish before the election? It is, in fact, incumbent upon both Houses and the President to reach a compromise. Passing bills that have no chance in the Senate or with the President is just spopping wheelies - looks cool but it actually slows You down.

I think you have forgotten how it is that a bill becomes a law. Probably because the Senate under harry Reid has just been obstructionist. The house passes a bill. It goes to the senate where the senate takes up the bill, amends it and the two bills go to a conference committee where the differences are worked out and the two bodies then vote again on the new bill. From there it goes to the president. It is at that point that he may veto. What you want is for the congress to pass no law that the president wont sign. But we don't have a king or an emperor here.

 

[jamesrage]

How Republicans came to office does not change the fact that there is no mandate. The GOP increased numbers in the House and Senate...yet that does not translate to agreement within their own ranks or a force to pass legislation.

The minority that wants Boehner out as Speaker is no more powerful after this elecetion as they were in the last term.

That fact seems to be lost on them...and you.

The republicans won the majority in both houses because voters were sick of Obama's executive amnesties.If voters loved Obama's policies then democrats would not have lost and they would have the majority in both houses.

 

[notquiteright]

Well, to his credit, he has invented something we haven't seen before--rule by executive fiat. That may be a good thing now, but I don't think you will find it all that wonderful when a republican follows the path Obama is blazing. For me, I don't want a president to rule that way.

More evidence of either a poor educational system or ardent partisan politics...

President Obama has blazed no trail, EOs have been part of the Presidency since George Washington was president.

St. Ronnie had twice as many, Herbert Hoover almost 5Xs as many, Theodore had well over 5Xs as many, US Grant had over 200... I hope you get the idea. Ever since the first President EOs have been used.

So the sad, and apparently new, fact of life for you is the Executive branch has, to quote you, 'ruled that way' for most of our history... eace

 

[Fletch]

More evidence of either a poor educational system or ardent partisan politics...

President Obama has blazed no trail, EOs have been part of the Presidency since George Washington was president.

St. Ronnie had twice as many, Herbert Hoover almost 5Xs as many, Theodore had well over 5Xs as many, US Grant had over 200... I hope you get the idea. Ever since the first President EOs have been used.

So the sad, and apparently new, fact of life for you is the Executive branch has, to quote you, 'ruled that way' for most of our history... eace

As has been pointed out to liberals repeatedly by me and others, it is not the number, but the content of those orders. So now you can go back to your Wiki source and get some substance and return.