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John Boehner allies fret coup attempt

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Close allies of Speaker John Boehner are worried that his conservative rivals could move to oust him as soon as next week.

Read more: John Boehner allies fret coup attempt - POLITICO

It's about ****ing time!!!!

Get rid of the weak kneed doormat for the Dems.

Get rid of him, and relegate him to a back bencher position.

He's useless.

Is it next week already?
 

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It's about ****ing time!!!!

Get rid of the weak kneed doormat for the Dems.

Get rid of him, and relegate him to a back bencher position.

He's useless.

Is it next week already?

I hope its true.Republicans won both houses because of their opposition to Obama, not to keep Obama's policies in place.
 

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I hope it's true too. More signs that the republicans can't get their house together.

It matters not who replaces him. So much for the success of the midterm election. The repubs can't get their act together even with a majority. And the so called lameduck president is calling the shots. He doesn't have to worry about being reelected.
 

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I hope its true.Republicans won both houses because of their opposition to Obama, not to keep Obama's policies in place.

Wrong. The repubs won due to low voter turnout. No mandate whatsoever.
 

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Wrong. The repubs won due to low voter turnout. No mandate whatsoever.

Republicans won because Obama lost much of his base. Blacks feel abandoned by Obama because they are doing much worse than they were in the Bush years. People vote with their wallet and in reality the economy isn't doing well, wages are down and unemployment is too high. The shear size of the Republican victory in the last midterm indeed gave them a mandate. The mandate was govern like adults instead of the kids they had running the ship under the dems.

Wether the Republicans can do better is yet to be seen but they are off to a crappy start because their leadership is worthless.
 

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Nonsense.

So there was some kind of mandate? Seriously that's laughable. The average voter is fed up with congress and many showed their distain by not showing up at the polls.
 
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Republicans won because Obama lost much of his base. Blacks feel abandoned by Obama because they are doing much worse than they were in the Bush years. People vote with their wallet and in reality the economy isn't doing well, wages are down and unemployment is too high. The shear size of the Republican victory in the last midterm indeed gave them a mandate. The mandate was govern like adults instead of the kids they had running the ship under the dems.

Wether the Republicans can do better is yet to be seen but they are off to a crappy start because their leadership is worthless.

If all your points were true their should have been a massive turnover with high voter turnout. But since there wasn't all your points are wishful thinking.
 

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Republicans won because Obama lost much of his base. Blacks feel abandoned by Obama because they are doing much worse than they were in the Bush years. People vote with their wallet and in reality the economy isn't doing well, wages are down and unemployment is too high. The shear size of the Republican victory in the last midterm indeed gave them a mandate. The mandate was govern like adults instead of the kids they had running the ship under the dems.

Wether the Republicans can do better is yet to be seen but they are off to a crappy start because their leadership is worthless.

Your premise is off. Boehner had been running the House before the election, and they still couldn't do their job. Go ahead and kick him out and replace him with a TPer. If you thought nothing was done before just wait until they pass a bill demanding Obama bring his birth certificate down so they can examine it.
 

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Wrong. The repubs won due to low voter turnout. No mandate whatsoever.

Turnout is never what determines where one has a mandate. Republicans control both houses. That gives them basically power equal to that of the president. The people who did bother to come out and vote (which are the only ones who matter) voted for the party in opposition to Obama. Whining that your side stayed home the last election is just that, whining.
 

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Your premise is off. Boehner had been running the House before the election, and they still couldn't do their job. Go ahead and kick him out and replace him with a TPer. If you thought nothing was done before just wait until they pass a bill demanding Obama bring his birth certificate down so they can examine it.
Why is the presidents intransigence a sign of republicans not doing their job?
 

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Turnout is never what determines where one has a mandate. Republicans control both houses. That gives them basically power equal to that of the president. The people who did bother to come out and vote (which are the only ones who matter) voted for the party in opposition to Obama. Whining that your side stayed home the last election is just that, whining.

The republicants do not "control" enough to override a veto or even enough to prevent a bill getting stopped in the Senate. Since Obama still has control of his pen, his phone and the press he is still very much in control. So long as Obama (with a little help from his left leaning friends) is able to keep the republicants simply trying to say no then their congressional approval rating will remain down in the road kill zone. A "TP" led coup, changing leadership in the House, will still neither "fix" the math/rule situation in the Senate nor stop Obama from having the final say with a veto, signing statement or EO (see congressional Keystone XL pipeline "victory").
 

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The republicants do not "control" enough to override a veto or even enough to prevent a bill getting stopped in the Senate. Since Obama still has control of his pen, his phone and the press he is still very much in control. So long as Obama (with a little help from his left leaning friends) is able to keep the republicants simply trying to say no then their congressional approval rating will remain down in the road kill zone. A "TP" led coup, changing leadership in the House, will still neither "fix" the math/rule situation in the Senate nor stop Obama from having the final say with a veto, signing statement or EO (see congressional Keystone XL pipeline "victory").
I don't see overthrowing Boehner as accomplishing anything. Obama is going to spend the next two years ignoring congress and vetoing anything they manage to pass. So who runs the house will change nothing.
 

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Turnout is never what determines where one has a mandate. Republicans control both houses. That gives them basically power equal to that of the president. The people who did bother to come out and vote (which are the only ones who matter) voted for the party in opposition to Obama. Whining that your side stayed home the last election is just that, whining.

It sure doesn't seem like "equal power" to me. In fact the Republicans seem weaker now than before the election. They are losing their only coherent message which is "hate all things Obama" and they have nothing to replace it with. I have never seen a party in such disarray.2016 is going to be a good year for Democrats.
 

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So there was some kind of mandate? Seriously that's laughable. The average voter is fed up with congress and many showed their distain by not showing up at the polls.

LOL.

So with control of congress at stake, and all the "party of no" propaganda, they just decided to let Republicans take control of Congress.

Amazing how far the left will go to deny reality.
 

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It's about ****ing time!!!!

Get rid of the weak kneed doormat for the Dems.

Get rid of him, and relegate him to a back bencher position.

He's useless.

Is it next week already?

A few freshmen conservatives have no power to kick out the speaker. They have been trying for a few years to get rid of him, and every single attempt has failed! I'm not so sure what the obsession over Boehner is. If he's gone a Conservative like you guys want is not going to take his place. Sorry to burst your bubble.
 

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It sure doesn't seem like "equal power" to me. In fact the Republicans seem weaker now than before the election. They are losing their only coherent message which is "hate all things Obama" and they have nothing to replace it with. I have never seen a party in such disarray.2016 is going to be a good year for Democrats.

And what is the democrat message that is so resonant? But yes, republicans should rally around some sort of coherent message other than oppose Obama. But the truth is, he is not going to work with them and will veto anything they pass. They should just accept this and pass their agenda anyway and let Obama veto it. Nothing is going to get done until this guy is out of office. That's just a fact. If you think about it, nothing has gotten done since 2010. Obama is going to rule by executive fiat for the next two years. Period.
 

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It's about ****ing time!!!!

Get rid of the weak kneed doormat for the Dems.

Get rid of him, and relegate him to a back bencher position.

He's useless.

Is it next week already?

And who would you suggest would do a batter job of working with the president and moving compromise legislation from the House through the Senate and to the president's signature in order to actually get things done
Or are you satisfied with gridlock politics and nothing getting done?
 

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If all your points were true their should have been a massive turnover with high voter turnout. But since there wasn't all your points are wishful thinking.

There actually was a massive turnover, the largest majority in the House in decades and a net gain of 9 seats in the Senate.....

Typical low turnout in off year elections, significant dissatisfaction with current administration policies and positions and a general disdain for incumbents in some states all played a role but there was a significant shift
 

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Turnout is never what determines where one has a mandate. Republicans control both houses. That gives them basically power equal to that of the president. The people who did bother to come out and vote (which are the only ones who matter) voted for the party in opposition to Obama. Whining that your side stayed home the last election is just that, whining.

No whining here. Just telling it like it is. There was no overwhelming victory by the republicans in the midterms and it's moot point anyway. Even with a majority in both houses they can't get their act together.

And "my side" varies as I never vote straight ticket. One of the best senators Indiana ever had was Republican Senator Richard Lugar, and i voted for him in the primary which required me to vote all republican. Out of state pac money and a smear campaign got him beat by some idiot named Murdock that ending up saying rape was the will of God. That in turn was the coup de grace that got him beat in the final election by dem Donelly.
 

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It's about ****ing time!!!!

Get rid of the weak kneed doormat for the Dems.

Get rid of him, and relegate him to a back bencher position.

He's useless.

Is it next week already?

The fact that incoming 114th Congress didn't not un-seat Boner, proves they had no intention of taking their mandate seriously.
 

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LOL.

So with control of congress at stake, and all the "party of no" propaganda, they just decided to let Republicans take control of Congress.

Amazing how far the left will go to deny reality.

Who's they?
 

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And what is the democrat message that is so resonant? But yes, republicans should rally around some sort of coherent message other than oppose Obama. But the truth is, he is not going to work with them and will veto anything they pass. They should just accept this and pass their agenda anyway and let Obama veto it. Nothing is going to get done until this guy is out of office. That's just a fact. If you think about it, nothing has gotten done since 2010. Obama is going to rule by executive fiat for the next two years. Period.

So he's not a "lame duck" after all? Seems to have a lot of power for a lame duck.
 
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