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Joe Miller camp files suit over Alaska write-in ballots

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JUNEAU, Alaska (AP) — GOP nominee Joe Miller sued Tuesday to keep the state from using discretion in counting write-in ballots in Alaska's hotly contested Senate race, setting off what could become a drawn-out legal battle.


The lawsuit was filed the day before election officials planned to start counting write-in ballots that could determine the outcome of the race. Lt. Gov. Craig Campbell, who oversees Alaska elections, said the count will proceed Wednesday morning as planned.

This issue here is that Miller wants ballots thrown out that misspell Murkowski's name, even if only one letter is incorrect. Never mind that the intent of the voter is crystal clear when he or she wrote in Murkowski's name.

I have only one statement to make here:

Joe Miller - You are an ass and a douche bag of the lowest calibre. And you will not succeed in circumventing the will of the voters, who probably already knew what kind of a dishonest bitch you really are, hence the reason they voted for your opponent.

OK, make that 2 statements. :mrgreen:

Article is here.
 
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What a piece of ****.
 

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I thought I read that the law said that the votes would count as long as the voter's intentions were clear.

If true, it would be a pretty short lawsuit, right?

edit: Ahh, the article says that it was a decision on part of the AK election commission, not AK law. This is going to take ages. :|
 
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I thought I read that the law said that the votes would count as long as the voter's intentions were clear.

If true, it would be a pretty short lawsuit, right?

I believe the statutory law requires the name to be either written as applied for in the write-in procedure or simply the last name of the write-in candidate. The "voter intent" issue that is being reported has to do with a series of Alaska Supreme Court decisions regarding the counting of ballots that date back to 1978.

That is my understanding of what is going on.
 

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I believe the statutory law requires the name to be either written as applied for in the write-in procedure or simply the last name of the write-in candidate. The "voter intent" issue that is being reported has to do with a series of Alaska Supreme Court decisions regarding the counting of ballots that date back to 1978.

That is my understanding of what is going on.

This is going to be like Al Franken's election in 2008, but WAY LONGER.
 

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This issue here is that Miller wants ballots thrown out that misspell Murkowski's name, even if only one letter is incorrect. Never mind that the intent of the voter is crystal clear when he or she wrote in Murkowski's name.

I have only one statement to make here:

Joe Miller - You are an ass and a douche bag of the lowest calibre. And you will not succeed in circumventing the will of the voters, who probably already knew what kind of a dishonest bitch you really are, hence the reason they voted for your opponent.

OK, make that 2 statements. :mrgreen:

Article is here.

Lisa Murkowski promised while running in the Primary to support whoever the candidate was if she lost. She evidently lied (as did Charlie Christ). I have no sympathy if hard-ball politics is played against her.
 

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Lisa Murkowski promised while running in the Primary to support whoever the candidate was if she lost. She evidently lied (as did Charlie Christ). I have no sympathy if hard-ball politics is played against her.

This is not just hard-ball politics being played against her. This is some piece of **** politician giving voters who did not vote for him the middle finger by trying to throw their votes away.
 

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no, you play by the rules of the game. the law states X, then X is what needs to occur, irregardless of whether or not you like X.
 

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Lisa Murkowski promised while running in the Primary to support whoever the candidate was if she lost. She evidently lied (as did Charlie Christ). I have no sympathy if hard-ball politics is played against her.

I'm fairly torn myself. She clearly broke a promise in the primary, but it also appears the people voted for her anyway. Do the people deserve to be punished for yher not following through on a promise?

ultimately, we have to follow the letter of the law. I'm still not sure what the letter of the law is.

If the law says that write-ins must be exact, then so be it. If they say that so long as voter intention is clear, then so be it.

If someone only writes her last name in, how do we know someone isn't still voting for her father? He was a far more popular senator.
 
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This is not just hard-ball politics being played against her. This is some piece of **** politician giving voters who did not vote for him the middle finger by trying to throw their votes away.

her father was a well known senator. If you only write the last name in, how can we be sure you are voting for the daughter?

To me, the bigger issue is that the two parties have successfully made it so difficult to get a third party listed on the ballot, that they caused this fiasco.
 

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If she wins she wins.

However were the Senate Majority leader I would make it clear to the lying no good dirty **** and that she would have no roll in anything but voting from then on.

And I would announce this at a press conference and repeat that she's a lying no good dirty **** that cannot be trusted every chance I got from then on.

I am personally sick and tired of liars on a personal, professional, and political, level.

Political hyperbole is one thing but if make a promise you had better damn well keep that promise.

Having no integrity is as bad as it gets and makes otherwise good people into no good dirty bastards who deserve no respect what ever.

Washington is full of people who fit into this category, for being a damn lairs, and it goes to all of those who violate their oath of Office, as Obama does.

So let Murkowski have the seat if she wins it, then make her life what it needs to be, "Miserable."
 

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It never ceases to entertain me how we look at the law, polling results and court decisions depending on whether or not they say what we need them to say.

If the wording of the law is against our cause, we call it "a BS technicality" that shouldn't be used to circumvent "what's right."

If the wording of the law is in favor of our cause, we say that we need to follow the law even if we don't like the law.

If we're on the majority side of a contentious vote, we call it "the will of the people."

If we're on the minority side of a contentious vote, we call it "mob rule."

If a judge makes a ruling affirming our beliefs, they're a "good" judge.

If a judge makes a ruling contradicting our beliefs, they're an "activist" judge.

When someone goes free because of a improperly filed or executed search warrant, it was just a technicality, and "not guilty" doesn't mean "innocent."

When someone goes down for hard time because their public defender is overloaded or incompetent, the government is waging war on the poor and minorities.

Oh, and my absolute favorite: When a poll says 20% are against something, 60% aren't sure and 20% are for something, we sure do love to say that 80% "don't agree" with the other guy. :lol:
 

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no, you play by the rules of the game. the law states X, then X is what needs to occur, irregardless of whether or not you like X.

Regardless of the legality, it is still voter theft or throwing away votes. It is still "Miller telling voters **** you, your votes do not matter". I would think a conservative such as yourself would be against voter theft or throwing away votes, But I guess you are a republican first and a conservative 2nd.
 

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Regardless of the legality, it is still voter theft or throwing away votes. It is still "Miller telling voters **** you, your votes do not matter". I would think a conservative such as yourself would be against voter theft or throwing away votes, But I guess you are a republican first and a conservative 2nd.

again, if they only write in the last name, how do we know who the vote is for?

Are you aware she shares the name with her father, who remains a popular figure in politics.

thw two party system - which she was a member of, did everything they could to stack the deck against write-in candidates.
 

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If the law says that write-ins must be exact, then so be it.

Also was given that impression, hence the passing out of the pamplets at voting stations showing the correct name spelling.

Difficult to determine intent with last name only, should be prefixed with the initial "L" to confirm actual intent.
 

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no, you play by the rules of the game. the law states X, then X is what needs to occur, irregardless of whether or not you like X.

That's right, we play by the rules of the game. Literacy test for blacks? Then literacy tests for blacks is what needs to occur, irregardless of whether or not you like literacy tests.

I have a better idea. Just count the damn votes.
 

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Joe Miller is acting disgustingly. I honestly hope that Lisa Murkowski wins and can stand up for voter representation. The law is the law, Democracy is Democracy. People have a right to vote and to have their vote counted, even if they voted for an insane jihadist or a socialist dictator. If Murkowski wins than she wins, if Miller wins than that's that. However, these foolish law suits and trying to milk out loopholes to ensure his victory is quite unethical.
 

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Joe Miller - You are an ass and a douche bag of the lowest calibre. And you will not succeed in circumventing the will of the voters, who probably already knew what kind of a dishonest bitch you really are

wow, real mature

it is impossible to divine a voter's intent without the diviner's own intention having some influence on his or her divination

for a vote to be counted for a write in candidate, it should be just that, written in

not divined
 

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wow, real mature

it is impossible to divine a voter's intent without the diviner's own intention having some influence on his or her divination

for a vote to be counted for a write in candidate, it should be just that, written in

not divined

For a vote to be counted, the intent of the voter is what is important.....


Wait a minute. I see your point. If someone writes in "Lisa Mercowsky" it should not count. It is clearly not her. [/sarcasm]

There is clearly nothing to divine here. Sheesh!!
 
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The signs of a flawed election system is when courts of law have to decide the outcome.. pathetic.
 

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The signs of a flawed election system is when courts of law have to decide the outcome.. pathetic.

1) If it weren't close, there would be no need.

2) No one gives a rat's ass what you think about it.
 

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This is going to be like Al Franken's election in 2008, but WAY LONGER.

I still think there was voter fraud somewhere there.

That aside, I think Miller is being a Dickhead. I saw some ballots they were complaining about. They were obviously intended to be votes for Murcowsky or is that Merkowski, Murkowsky?
Anyway, I was really upset with spoiled brat, sore loser Lisa Murkowski when she decided to run as a write in. There was a chance the Dem would win just because she felt she was entitled to that seat.
However, now it looks like whoever wins, I'm not going to like them.
 
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