Joe Biden Admits Pressure From Democrats Led Him To Drop Out of Race

[eohrnberger]

yawn...

More bullshit from a puppet who says exactly what he's told to say.

Face facts, folks. Biden has NEVER made a decision on his own since he was installed in the WH. EVERYTHING he's done and said is what he was told to do and say. This nonsense is no different.

Biden was TOLD to step down. He initially resisted...probably the first time he's done something like that in more than four years...and

he was threatened with the shame of being forced out by way of Section 4 of the 25th Amendment.

This was exactly what Pelosi used to knife him in the back to get him to stand down.
Of course, Harris would have to start the process, along with a few cabinet members, but Harris is showing that she follows the orders she's been given. Likely there's one or more cabinet members who would too.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Has anyone being paying attention. Righties were thrilled to be running Biden against Trump, but now....................................

Earlier on this thread I noted:

Way back when Righties were whining about senile Joe and that he needs to go, I quibbed "be careful what you wish for" and sure enough, now that he is out, and Kamala and Walz are climbing the polls, Righties are crying like wee babies because................................... they got what they wished for.

It's amazing, but they will keep up this line of attack no matter how nauseating it gets, how old it gets, how infantile it gets.

Even if Joe was PRESSURED to drop out, so what?? He is out, Kamala and Walz are in. Deal with it already, sheesh!

 

[eohrnberger]

Yep-' and Democrats choose them in smoke filled rooms.

So how does that work in the Democratic Party? You guys vote in primaries for delegates who say they are going to vote for Biden at the convention. Nobody else really challenges him.

And then the leadership of the party says 'no.'

Do you think maybe some more information about this process might be warranted?

Democracy dies in darkness.
Or so it's been said.

To be more specific, exact, and updated: 'Democracy dies in the darkness cast by a biased press' - such as we have now.

We are witnessing large scale retconning, gaslighting, and political propaganda to cover, make viewed as blameless, of 'screwing things up' by the Biden / Harris administration.
This casts a long and dark shadow.

From another post in another thread:

How much will Harris cost you?

Don’t forget Trump’s inability (refusal?) to stick to talking about the inflation/energy, illegal immigration and foreign policy issues. Yes, true. The man needs more discipline in his talking points. I'm sure that his campaign is constantly reminding him, am I'm sure he's not the easiest of...

debatepolitics.com

 

[Mr. Invisible]

But a candidate is only elected if people vote for his or her. That's when this 'democracy' thing happens.

That's debatable in the US context. I mean, the entire point of primaries and the convention is to elect a party rep for the presidential election. In this context, there is a point where voters have influence and sway via their votes. What we have here is a situation where the ordinary rank and file Democrats have had actually no say in who their party rep in this election is going to be, rather it's been thrust upon them by the party machine itself.

 

[Mr. Invisible]

There is no democracy. This is a Constitutional Republic.

Actually this is a democracy. There are two types: 1) Direct democracy where people go and vote on the issues at hand and 2) Representative democracy (aka a republic) where people elect others to represent them.

 

[Hypothetical]

Hey. Newsflash.

Political parties can do whatever the **** they want. How they decide the candidate they put forward in elections is up to them. The democracy part happens when people vote on candidates in elections.

You just sound like a snowflake right now. Like, you're criticizing a political party for...making decisions you yourself acknowledge are politically smart? I'm pretty sure that's what political parties are supposed to do? Not only smart, but it was a decision you supposedly think they SHOULD have made for the good of the country (and it was wanted by the majority of Democrats).

You aren't even grasping at normal straws at this point. These are like those eco friendly paper straws that dissolve as you use them.

of course I am going to criticize a party for making decisions for itself over the Country. THat is what is sorely lacking in the democrat party.

 

[Nomad4Ever]

of course I am going to criticize a party for making decisions for itself over the Country. THat is what is sorely lacking in the democrat party.

Biden dropping out was what was good for the country.

 

[highroller]

of course I am going to criticize a party for making decisions for itself over the Country. THat is what is sorely lacking in the democrat party.

The best thing for the country was having an 82 year old in charge of the nuclear codes?

I thought it was the correct decision for Biden to step down. He’s an honorable man, but the presidency is difficult and taxing on even 50 year olds.

 

[BlueTex]

That's debatable in the US context. I mean, the entire point of primaries and the convention is to elect a party rep for the presidential election. In this context, there is a point where voters have influence and sway via their votes. What we have here is a situation where the ordinary rank and file Democrats have had actually no say in who their party rep in this election is going to be, rather it's been thrust upon them by the party machine itself.

They never had a say.... The DELEGATES vote for the candidate, not the party members....

 

[BlueTex]

of course I am going to criticize a party for making decisions for itself over the Country. THat is what is sorely lacking in the democrat party.

Your ignorance of how the DNC operates (very similar to the RNC) is what is sorely lacking...

 

[Hypothetical]

The best thing for the country was having an 82 year old in charge of the nuclear codes?

I thought it was the correct decision for Biden to step down. He’s an honorable man, but the presidency is difficult and taxing on even 50 year olds.

little secret, he's in charge of the nuclear codes for the next 4-6 months.

 

[JasperL]

...........and now we are so committed to democracy that the Democrat party is running a candidate nobody even voted for.



It is all going according to plan.

That's nice. Always good when the right wingers reveal themselves by illiterately referring to the "Democrat" [sic] party. Time Saver!! MAGA!!!

 

[Athanasius68]

This November you have the option of voting for the guy who sought to overturn the 2020 election.

By voting for the candidate who seems to have actually overturned the 2024 election?

What are the thoughts of Ms. Harris as to what actually happened here? Does she really think Biden could not have served another four years?
Why did she say otherwise up until that day? What was her role in what actually transpired?

I get it that Democrats have taken on a sort of 'Joe who' mentality of late.

But he actually remains president, and the VP seems to have swooped in when he was deposed as the nominee, even after garnering 99% of the vote by her fellow Democrats.

 

[Hypothetical]

Your ignorance of how the DNC operates (very similar to the RNC) is what is sorely lacking...

I know exactly how the DNC "operates", as well as the RNC. the RNC has never in recent memory bypassed millions of votes in order to change their candidate out of convenience. THAT practice is EXACTLY why the parties started the primaries in the first place. Teh DNC of note, has tried EVERYTHING though to be able to have the party elite decide the issue. That was the reason for superdelegates and now they just decided to bypass it altogether.

 

[ataraxia]

Joe Biden Admits Pressure From Democrats Led Him To Drop Out of Race​

MSN

President Joe Biden said to CBS that he dropped out of the race after receiving pressure from Democrats in the House and the Senate.

"The polls we had showed it was a neck-and-neck race, it would have been down to the wire," the Democratic president told CBS News' Robert Costa in an exclusive pre-recorded one-on-one conversation first aired today.

He wasn't forced out of the race because he was getting senile after all. The whole problem was the polls. Three or four people at the top of the Democrat cabal got together and decided he could not win. Never mind that Biden was elected to office with over 80 million votes. Never mind that he won basically all of the primary votes during the Democrat primary process. Never mind that the chosen successor had not received even 1 vote during the normal state primary process. Never mind that an unprecedented process of getting elected delegates to change their votes without any input from their constituency was concocted so there could not be any debate on the process at the Democratic convention.

You all feel good about that? It sounds like a real "threat to democracy" to me.

OK. His base and his party wanted him to step down. That's democracy.

 

[Gardener]

That's nice. Always good when the right wingers reveal themselves by illiterately referring to the "Democrat" [sic] party. Time Saver!! MAGA!!!

Yes -- anything short of full-on communist is right wing and Maga.

Got it.

 

[ataraxia]

I know exactly how the DNC "operates", as well as the RNC. the RNC has never in recent memory bypassed millions of votes in order to change their candidate out of convenience. THAT practice is EXACTLY why the parties started the primaries in the first place.

If the electorate wasn't happy with what happened, they can still make their wishes known at the voting booth.

 

[Athanasius68]

Even if Joe was PRESSURED to drop out, so what?? He is out, Kamala and Walz are in. Deal with it already, sheesh!

Oh, I suspect the GOP will reconfigure over the next couple weeks. I guess they have no choice.

Who cares if Biden was pressured to step aside?
I thought all votes matter.

 

[ataraxia]

Yes -- anything short of full-on communist is right wing and Maga.

Got it.

Yes. Because everyone knows elementary school lunches are communism.

 

[BlueTex]

I know exactly how the DNC "operates", as well as the RNC. the RNC has never in recent memory bypassed millions of votes in order to change their candidate out of convenience. THAT practice is EXACTLY why the parties started the primaries in the first place.

LMAO...

Demonstrating, once again, a complete lack of knowledge of how the party actually operates... Do you know the difference between a pledged and unpledged delegate?

 

[Mr. Invisible]

They never had a say.... The DELEGATES vote for the candidate, not the party members....

Correct, but parties have primaries, in part, so the list of eligible candidates can be whittled down. If candidates aren't getting enough votes, they drop out. So the people do have a say on some level.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Oh, I suspect the GOP will reconfigure over the next couple weeks. I guess they have no choice.

Who cares if Biden was pressured to step aside?
I thought all votes matter.

Way back when Righties were whining about senile Joe and that he needs to go, I quibbed "be careful what you wish for" and sure enough, now that he is out, and Kamala and Walz are climbing the polls, Righties are crying like wee babies because................................... they got what they wished for.

 

[upsideguy]

Joe Biden Admits Pressure From Democrats Led Him To Drop Out of Race​

MSN

President Joe Biden said to CBS that he dropped out of the race after receiving pressure from Democrats in the House and the Senate.

"The polls we had showed it was a neck-and-neck race, it would have been down to the wire," the Democratic president told CBS News' Robert Costa in an exclusive pre-recorded one-on-one conversation first aired today.

He wasn't forced out of the race because he was getting senile after all. The whole problem was the polls. Three or four people at the top of the Democrat cabal got together and decided he could not win. Never mind that Biden was elected to office with over 80 million votes. Never mind that he won basically all of the primary votes during the Democrat primary process. Never mind that the chosen successor had not received even 1 vote during the normal state primary process. Never mind that an unprecedented process of getting elected delegates to change their votes without any input from their constituency was concocted so there could not be any debate on the process at the Democratic convention.

You all feel good about that? It sounds like a real "threat to democracy" to me.

This election is not about Joe Biden. It never was, nor did Joe Biden want it to be about him. Biden believes Trump is an existential threat to American democracy. He just also believed he was best positioned to beat him.

Funny how its only the Trump supporters that are suddenly concerned about Joe Biden's feelings. This country thanks you for your disingenuousness, as it is so rare to find these days. Sorry that Trump is now likely to lose because Joe Biden did the right thing for his country, putting country ahead of self. Its a noble thing that 21st century Republicans would never understand.

See Harris rally the Democrat party so effectively, in such a short-time, Biden would likely tell you it was one of the hardest decisions he ever made, but also one of his best decisions.

Joe Biden's legacy has been significantly enhanced by his sacrifice here. He is already considered one of our better US presidents. This just likely cements his place as America's best one-term president.

PS - This is not exactly "breaking news" as anyone that had been following the story knew this a month ago. Glad you finally caught up.

...........and now we are so committed to democracy that the Democrat party is running a candidate nobody even voted for.



It is all going according to plan.

Sorry that your civics never taught you have presidential candidates were selected by the parties, this is nothing new. Also sorry that what you thought was an easy path to victory is now likely an impassable path for your guy, but that is on your guy.

 

[Athanasius68]

They never had a say.... The DELEGATES vote for the candidate, not the party members....

Oh-- so Democrats don't have a say in who the Democratic Party chooses as it's nominee.
Got it.

 

[BlueTex]

Correct, but parties have primaries, in part, so the list of eligible candidates can be whittled down. If candidates aren't getting enough votes, they drop out. So the people do have a say on some level.

Parties have primaries to inform DELEGATES of the primary voters sentiment....