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Joe Biden Admits Pressure From Democrats Led Him To Drop Out of Race

Sweden said:
But a candidate is only elected if people vote for his or her. That's when this 'democracy' thing happens.
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Many words have completely changed their meaning in the last 10 or so years and Democracy is at the top of the list. Democracy now means "Rule by the establishment and its completely servant party: The Democratic Party." Whenever you hear democrats screaming about America losing its democracy just insert the new definition and it all makes sense again. Another word is Racist which now means "Anyone who doesn't vehemently support the establishment and its completely servant party: The Democratic Party." You can now switch Racist with Sexist and definition remains the same. It's hard to keep up with the establishment/democrat propaganda and they keep updating their Newspeak Dictionary daily.
 
W_Heisenberg said:
I always find this comment by Trump supporters to be so strange. You all have been arguing that Biden was too old to be President. We finally agreed but now you’re complaining about it?

I’m comfortable with Harris as the nominee and I think based on her performance so far, if there were a nationwide primary vote today, Harris would win in a landslide.

She’s doing so well I think she will win a wide margin this November.

If there is a threat to Democracy it’s coming from Trump and his supporters. Remember his attempts to overturn the 2020 election? I also find the recent Immunity ruling to make Trump Above the law to be troubling, and the I find the attempts by Georgia election officials to stack things in Trump’s favor to be troubling as well.
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Hello-- an election was 'overturned.'

President Biden received 99% of the vote and a few people at the top simply said 'no'-- can't have him.
And you smile with joy

Meanwhile, you're going to lecture everyone else about dangers to democracy? Please.
 
Slartibartfast said:
Having a candidate drop out after pretty much everyone in his party wanted him to drop out is somehow called in democratic.

Yeah, the accusation is as stupid as it sounds.
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Pretty much everyone in the party voted for him...
 
W_Heisenberg said:
I always find this comment by Trump supporters to be so strange. You all have been arguing that Biden was too old to be President. We finally agreed but now you’re complaining about it?

I’m comfortable with Harris as the nominee and I think based on her performance so far, if there were a nationwide primary vote today, Harris would win in a landslide.

She’s doing so well I think she will win a wide margin this November.

If there is a threat to Democracy it’s coming from Trump and his supporters. Remember his attempts to overturn the 2020 election? I also find the recent Immunity ruling to make Trump Above the law to be troubling, and the I find the attempts by Georgia election officials to stack things in Trump’s favor to be troubling as well.
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you ONLY finally agree because it benefits you in the election. It didn't matter to anyone in that worthless party that the US might be in danger with Biden at the helm. That in itself is a reason NOT to vote democrat this november, as they lie to get whatever benefits them and not a thing for the American people.
 
W_Heisenberg said:
I always find this comment by Trump supporters to be so strange. You all have been arguing that Biden was too old to be President. We finally agreed but now you’re complaining about it?
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Of course they are, conservatives don’t have a single genuine position on any issue except guns.
 
RenoCon said:

Joe Biden Admits Pressure From Democrats Led Him To Drop Out of Race​


President Joe Biden said to CBS that he dropped out of the race after receiving pressure from Democrats in the House and the Senate.

"The polls we had showed it was a neck-and-neck race, it would have been down to the wire," the Democratic president told CBS News' Robert Costa in an exclusive pre-recorded one-on-one conversation first aired today.

He wasn't forced out of the race because he was getting senile after all. The whole problem was the polls. Three or four people at the top of the Democrat cabal got together and decided he could not win. Never mind that Biden was elected to office with over 80 million votes. Never mind that he won basically all of the primary votes during the Democrat primary process. Never mind that the chosen successor had not received even 1 vote during the normal state primary process. Never mind that an unprecedented process of getting elected delegates to change their votes without any input from their constituency was concocted so there could not be any debate on the process at the Democratic convention.

You all feel good about that? It sounds like a real "threat to democracy" to me.
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Never mind the election, Biden’s growing infirmity was becoming (some would argue still is) a threat to the democracy he serves.

Regarding the election, the Democratic leadership had no choice. The polls were not close, and the reason they were not close is because too many would-be voters decided to trust their eyes and ears when it came to the fitness of Joe Biden for office. Biden’s condition and the polls cannot be separated; the former drove the latter.
 
RenoCon said:

Joe Biden Admits Pressure From Democrats Led Him To Drop Out of Race​


President Joe Biden said to CBS that he dropped out of the race after receiving pressure from Democrats in the House and the Senate.

"The polls we had showed it was a neck-and-neck race, it would have been down to the wire," the Democratic president told CBS News' Robert Costa in an exclusive pre-recorded one-on-one conversation first aired today.

He wasn't forced out of the race because he was getting senile after all. The whole problem was the polls. Three or four people at the top of the Democrat cabal got together and decided he could not win. Never mind that Biden was elected to office with over 80 million votes. Never mind that he won basically all of the primary votes during the Democrat primary process. Never mind that the chosen successor had not received even 1 vote during the normal state primary process. Never mind that an unprecedented process of getting elected delegates to change their votes without any input from their constituency was concocted so there could not be any debate on the process at the Democratic convention.

You all feel good about that? It sounds like a real "threat to democracy" to me.
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The constitution does not mention political parties. Are they even constitutional?
 
Gardener said:
...........and now we are so committed to democracy that the Democrat party is running a candidate nobody even voted for.



It is all going according to plan.
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And........................how many times did she run in an election?


It's scary what's happening to democracy.
 
RenoCon said:
You all feel good about that?
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I feel great about it. It is my opinion Biden is genuinely too old to serve ANOTHER 4 years. And you and every other conservative agrees with that statement?

Not only that, but the majority of Democrat voters wanted him to drop out after the horrible debate that highlighted he wasn't fit to serve.

Have you changed your mind? Do you think Biden is actually "as sharp as a tack" and capable of running the country? If not then why wouldn't you feel good about him dropping out? Why would you want a barely functioning lethargic dinosaur in the highest office in the land?
 
Sweden said:
But a candidate is only elected if people vote for his or her. That's when this 'democracy' thing happens.
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I voted for the Biden/Harris ticket. If I didn't think Harris was capable of taking the reigns should something happen to the considerably old Biden I wouldn't have voted for them.
 
tosca1 said:
And........................how many times did she run in an election?


It's scary what's happening to democracy.
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We live in a democracy. The election hasn’t happened yet.

Presidential primaries are a private affair.

Would I have preferred a primary election? Absolutely, but that’s water under the bridge. The delegates were released by the primary winner and voted for his endorsed candidate who also has strong grass roots support. That’s one way the system works.

This really just sounds like salty MAGA people complaining their November election strategy was spoiled.
 
highroller said:
The constitution does not mention political parties. Are they even constitutional?
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How are they unconstitutional? Do you think the founders of the Constitution - that were themselves aligned with political parties - were unaware that political parties would exist in the US? That political parties are a very normal way that individuals align themselves within democratic societies? That political parties are or were “new” in some manner?
tosca1 said:
And........................how many times did she run in an election?
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She ran as the VP on the Biden-Harris ticket.

The same way that JD is the VP on the Trump-Vance ticket and Mike Walz is the VP on the Harris-Walz ticket.

She also ran numerous elections and won in CA. From district attorney to attorney general to senator.
tosca1 said:
It's scary what's happening to democracy.
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That people’s voices and concerns were heard? That those concerns went up the ladder and reached Biden and that Biden made the decision after consideration of those concerns that were held within his party?
 
Hypothetical said:
you ONLY finally agree because it benefits you in the election. It didn't matter to anyone in that worthless party that the US might be in danger with Biden at the helm. That in itself is a reason NOT to vote democrat this november, as they lie to get whatever benefits them and not a thing for the American people.
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Hey. Newsflash.

Political parties can do whatever the **** they want. How they decide the candidate they put forward in elections is up to them. The democracy part happens when people vote on candidates in elections.

You just sound like a snowflake right now. Like, you're criticizing a political party for...making decisions you yourself acknowledge are politically smart? I'm pretty sure that's what political parties are supposed to do? Not only smart, but it was a decision you supposedly think they SHOULD have made for the good of the country (and it was wanted by the majority of Democrats).

You aren't even grasping at normal straws at this point. These are like those eco friendly paper straws that dissolve as you use them.
 
Biden shouldn't be giving interviews. This is not helpful. I don't think this will get much traction because people don't really listen to Biden anymore. He's politically irrelevant except, of course, for the highly important office he currently holds and will hold for the next 5 months. But he needs to lay low and he needs some good advisors in the room with him at all times. To be completely honest, critics who question whether he should remain in office can't be blamed for at least going there, IMO.
 
RenoCon said:

Joe Biden Admits Pressure From Democrats Led Him To Drop Out of Race​


President Joe Biden said to CBS that he dropped out of the race after receiving pressure from Democrats in the House and the Senate.

"The polls we had showed it was a neck-and-neck race, it would have been down to the wire," the Democratic president told CBS News' Robert Costa in an exclusive pre-recorded one-on-one conversation first aired today.

He wasn't forced out of the race because he was getting senile after all. The whole problem was the polls. Three or four people at the top of the Democrat cabal got together and decided he could not win. Never mind that Biden was elected to office with over 80 million votes. Never mind that he won basically all of the primary votes during the Democrat primary process. Never mind that the chosen successor had not received even 1 vote during the normal state primary process. Never mind that an unprecedented process of getting elected delegates to change their votes without any input from their constituency was concocted so there could not be any debate on the process at the Democratic convention.

You all feel good about that? It sounds like a real "threat to democracy" to me.
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Forced or not. What most Americans didn’t want is a rematch between Biden and Trump. Just 10 days before Biden stepped down Pew Research paper/poll show 63% of all Americans describing both Biden and Trump as embarrassing with 53% stating if they would replace both Biden and Trump on the November ballot if they could.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politic...lings-about-the-2024-campaign-and-candidates/

Forcing Biden out gave those voters who wanted both replaced half of what they wanted in the first place. Biden out of the race. Now the second half needs to go. Which if one looks at the polls, when Biden was forced out, he was receiving just 39.2% of the vote. Harris today is getting 45.3%. An increase of over 6 points for the democrats. Trump has remained relatively the same percentage he had against Biden as he now has against Harris.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/po...4/trump-vs-harris-vs-kennedy-vs-stein-vs-west

https://www.realclearpolling.com/po...24/trump-vs-biden-vs-kennedy-vs-west-vs-stein

Where Harris has gained is in those who intended on voting third party in a Biden vs. Trump rematch, voting against both major party candidates. 12% of the electorate intended to vote third party in a Biden vs. Trump rematch, that is down to 7% today in a Harris vs. Trump matchup and dropping as forcing Biden out gave these voters who disliked and didn’t want neither Trump nor Biden as their next president a major party candidate they could support and apparently vote for.

Does the improvement in chances of defeating Trump with Harris make the forcing out of Biden right? No, I think not. Not after the primaries when 87% of democratic voters decided Biden should be their nominee. The democrats let the DNC, democratic party leaders and some democratic elected officials override the democratic voter’s choice making the primaries, elections irrelevant. What does this say about protecting and saving democracy? That perhaps the democrats believe one first must destroy democracy in order to save it.
 
Perotista said:
Not after the primaries when 87% of democratic voters decided Biden should be their nominee.
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The primaries were less democratic than Kamala Harris being made the nominee. If there were actual open primaries it is very unlikely Biden would have won.

Perotista said:
The democrats let the DNC, democratic party leaders and some democratic elected officials override the democratic voter’s choice making the primaries, elections irrelevant.
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It was the other way around. The Democrats put an immense amount of pressure onto the DNC part leaders and Joe Biden to drop out because it became very clear he wasn't fit to serve another 4 years.
 
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