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Jesus Christ (1 Viewer)

Some people still believe there was such a person who became believed to be a God.
 
Logician Man said:
Is Jesus Christ a God, or not?
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You really should try reading at least a LITTLE about a religion before you make these threads. Look up the concept of the holy trinity. I'm not saying it's logical or real, but that is what most Christians will tell you when asked.
 
Logician Man said:
Is Jesus Christ a God, or not?
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Jesus Christ is the Abrahamic God.
There are many, many verses in the Bible that support that.
Logic supports that.

GOD HIMSELF will be with them[W;105]

I've been quoting verses this past couple of days – verses that show Jesus is God Himself, incarnated, to dwell among the people and to save mankind. I thought I'd exhausted everything...... until this morning. I'm on the Book of Revelation these days, and I just finished reading Chapter 21...
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Christians must believe that. Otherwise, we commit idolatry.




The latest evidence was an answer to another question on faith in Christ, as a prerequisite to salvation.
What about those who lived before the time of Jesus?


Abraham was saved by grace thru his faith in God.
Just as we are now saved by grace thru our faith in Jesus Christ.


It's the same theme for the Old Testament and the New Testament.
Because....................... God and Jesus, are One and the Same.
 
Jesus didn't supposedly start out as a god, but Christians wanted to worship Jesus and you can't do that in the Abrahamic religions. Therefore they invented the concept of the trinity to turn Jesus into a god, or part of the godhead. There are many problems with it, but what mythologies are without them?
 
Jesus of Nazareth was a real person. There is nothing mythological about Him. There is plenty of historical evidence proving He was real, both secular and non-secular. No amount of skepticism can alter this fact.

That Jesus was executed by crucifixion by the Romans in Jerusalem is also a historical fact. No amount of skepticism can alter that fact either. It happened.

The "kicker" though is His resurrection from the dead. This too is historical fact, evidenced by the many who saw Him (well over 500 people) and proclaimed Him as having risen from the dead and who would not deny their claim, even under penalty of death - which most sadly had to endure. One, two, three eyewitnesses is one thing - but over 500? That's an entirely different thing. It happened and is the bedrock event of the Christian faith.

He did numerous miracles during His 3 year "ministry" - mostly the healing of people who could not otherwise be healed - He healed the blind, He cured some of leprosy, He cured the paralyzed and lame, enabling them to walk, He cured a woman whom many doctors had tried, and failed to heal of hemorrhaging, He restored a man's withered hand - in front of people who didn't like Him, who were testing Him to see if He'd "violate" their law of "working" on the Sabbath and who afterwards would determine to destroy Him. He healed the deaf, enabling them to hear. He even brought the dead back to life - several times.

Moreover, He did it both in the presence of the person whom He was healing and He did it from a distance.

His wisdom and knowledge was unassailable - despite many of the most learned and knowledgeable of His day trying to trip Him up in either, and who eventually gave up trying to do so.

Jesus claimed to be God. He claimed to be "Lord" - which in that time and era was equivalent to saying He was God. When asked, He did not deny it.

Either that claim was true, or it wasn't. His resurrection proves it was. Jesus is not "a god" - Jesus is "THE GOD."

Jesus is also the "Christ" - or in Hebrew, "Messiah," which means "anointed one," or, "chosen one." The messiah was one foretold to save humanity from their sin. Moses spoke of Him, as did David and Daniel, Isaiah, and other prophets.
So Jesus is not only attested by His miracles, His knowledge and wisdom, His claims, His life, and His resurrection - He is also attested by numerous prophecies in the Old Testament - which found their fulfillment in Him.

Jesus is no myth. He is real. He is alive. He is God. And He is coming again...
 
[QUOTE="EdwinWillers, post: 1075513315, member:

Jesus is no myth. He is real. He is alive. He is God. And He is coming again...
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That's nice. Prove it!
 
Jesus Christ is the Son of God...

The phrase “the Word was a god” describes the divine or godlike nature that Jesus possessed before he came to earth. He can be described in this way because of his role as God’s Spokesman and his unique position as the firstborn Son of God through whom God created all other things.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/502300113?q=a+god&p=sen
 
EdwinWillers said:
Jesus of Nazareth was a real person. There is nothing mythological about Him. There is plenty of historical evidence proving He was real, both secular and non-secular. No amount of skepticism can alter this fact.

That Jesus was executed by crucifixion by the Romans in Jerusalem is also a historical fact. No amount of skepticism can alter that fact either. It happened.

The "kicker" though is His resurrection from the dead. This too is historical fact, evidenced by the many who saw Him (well over 500 people) and proclaimed Him as having risen from the dead and who would not deny their claim, even under penalty of death - which most sadly had to endure. One, two, three eyewitnesses is one thing - but over 500? That's an entirely different thing. It happened and is the bedrock event of the Christian faith.

He did numerous miracles during His 3 year "ministry" - mostly the healing of people who could not otherwise be healed - He healed the blind, He cured some of leprosy, He cured the paralyzed and lame, enabling them to walk, He cured a woman whom many doctors had tried, and failed to heal of hemorrhaging, He restored a man's withered hand - in front of people who didn't like Him, who were testing Him to see if He'd "violate" their law of "working" on the Sabbath and who afterwards would determine to destroy Him. He healed the deaf, enabling them to hear. He even brought the dead back to life - several times.

Moreover, He did it both in the presence of the person whom He was healing and He did it from a distance.

His wisdom and knowledge was unassailable - despite many of the most learned and knowledgeable of His day trying to trip Him up in either, and who eventually gave up trying to do so.

Jesus claimed to be God. He claimed to be "Lord" - which in that time and era was equivalent to saying He was God. When asked, He did not deny it.

Either that claim was true, or it wasn't. His resurrection proves it was. Jesus is not "a god" - Jesus is "THE GOD."

Jesus is also the "Christ" - or in Hebrew, "Messiah," which means "anointed one," or, "chosen one." The messiah was one foretold to save humanity from their sin. Moses spoke of Him, as did David and Daniel, Isaiah, and other prophets.
So Jesus is not only attested by His miracles, His knowledge and wisdom, His claims, His life, and His resurrection - He is also attested by numerous prophecies in the Old Testament - which found their fulfillment in Him.

Jesus is no myth. He is real. He is alive. He is God. And He is coming again...
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Last sentence: don’t bet on it.
 
Yes?

You called? What is it you want?
 
Gordy327 said:
As do I. I especially like his concept of the separation of church and state.
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How about his "concept" of owning over 400 human beings? LOL, he did say a lot of neat-o stuff about FrEeDuMbZ$™ and "tyranny" tho, so he's cool in my book.(y)
 
PeacefulWarrior said:
How about his "concept" of owning over 400 human beings? LOL, he did say a lot of neat-o stuff about FrEeDuMbZ$™ and "tyranny" tho, so he's cool in my book.(y)
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I focused on his concept of separation. Separation good. Slavery, not so much.
 
EdwinWillers said:
The "kicker" though is His resurrection from the dead. This too is historical fact
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Hmmmmm. LOL. That seems to go against everything we know of medical science, which says that necrotic tissue cant be resurrected.

I'm skeptical. I'm going to have to see a copy of the death certificate please.

And make sure its a Long Form.:D
 
EdwinWillers said:
Jesus of Nazareth was a real person. There is nothing mythological about Him. There is plenty of historical evidence proving He was real, both secular and non-secular. No amount of skepticism can alter this fact.

That Jesus was executed by crucifixion by the Romans in Jerusalem is also a historical fact. No amount of skepticism can alter that fact either. It happened.

The "kicker" though is His resurrection from the dead. This too is historical fact, evidenced by the many who saw Him (well over 500 people) and proclaimed Him as having risen from the dead and who would not deny their claim, even under penalty of death - which most sadly had to endure. One, two, three eyewitnesses is one thing - but over 500? That's an entirely different thing. It happened and is the bedrock event of the Christian faith.

He did numerous miracles during His 3 year "ministry" - mostly the healing of people who could not otherwise be healed - He healed the blind, He cured some of leprosy, He cured the paralyzed and lame, enabling them to walk, He cured a woman whom many doctors had tried, and failed to heal of hemorrhaging, He restored a man's withered hand - in front of people who didn't like Him, who were testing Him to see if He'd "violate" their law of "working" on the Sabbath and who afterwards would determine to destroy Him. He healed the deaf, enabling them to hear. He even brought the dead back to life - several times.

Moreover, He did it both in the presence of the person whom He was healing and He did it from a distance.

His wisdom and knowledge was unassailable - despite many of the most learned and knowledgeable of His day trying to trip Him up in either, and who eventually gave up trying to do so.

Jesus claimed to be God. He claimed to be "Lord" - which in that time and era was equivalent to saying He was God. When asked, He did not deny it.

Either that claim was true, or it wasn't. His resurrection proves it was. Jesus is not "a god" - Jesus is "THE GOD."

Jesus is also the "Christ" - or in Hebrew, "Messiah," which means "anointed one," or, "chosen one." The messiah was one foretold to save humanity from their sin. Moses spoke of Him, as did David and Daniel, Isaiah, and other prophets.
So Jesus is not only attested by His miracles, His knowledge and wisdom, His claims, His life, and His resurrection - He is also attested by numerous prophecies in the Old Testament - which found their fulfillment in Him.

Jesus is no myth. He is real. He is alive. He is God. And He is coming again...
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Ditto.....except cross out everywhere it says "Jesus"....and insert "Flying Spaghetti Monster". (y)

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Questerr said:
There is no verifiable evidence he was or is.
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They have a lot of conjecture and hearsay. Those are kinds of "evidence," right? Lol
 
To which religion?
 
Gordy327 said:
Indeed. But there are those who are quite willing to accept it as fact. Go figure
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The same kind of people who fall for QAnon, believe anti-vax nonsense, and think the world is going to end any day now.
 
Questerr said:
The same kind of people who fall for QAnon, believe anti-vax nonsense, and think the world is going to end any day now.
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I know, right. It's crazy.
 
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