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Is a preemptive strike to destroy a nation's nuclear weapons capability ever justifie

Is a preemptive strike to destroy a nation's nuclear weapons capability ever justifie

  • Yes

    Votes: 24 92.3%
  • No

    Votes: 2 7.7%

  • Total voters
    26
Re: Is a preemptive strike to destroy a nation's nuclear weapons capability ever just

Navy Pride said:
Yeah, right, whatever.......:rofl


It's a good thing I'm not trying to impress you with anything other than I'm pretty much fearless when it comes to my beliefs. Something you 'safe on the boat' Navy wimps got no clue about.

Tell me, how do you take pride in having sat on boat lobbing shells blindly into Vietnamese villages?
 
Re: Is a preemptive strike to destroy a nation's nuclear weapons capability ever just

ProudAmerican said:
you think calling someone a "liberal" is an attack?

okiee, if you say so.

You obviously were not aware that Navy Pride said that my signature is a personal attack.

All my signature is doing is saying that he is a self proclaimed liberal.

So, like you said, "You think calling someone a liberal is an attack?"
:roll:
Keep up....
 
Re: Is a preemptive strike to destroy a nation's nuclear weapons capability ever just

Caine said:
Personal attacks??????

You call people liberals all the time.

You can engage in those childish antics if you want to......I won't stoop to your level except to say I will never understand why you Liberals hate to be addressed as such......Even your Hero John Kerry would not admit it in 2004.......

If it was a Conservative insulting me like that I might be concerned..............
 
Re: Is a preemptive strike to destroy a nation's nuclear weapons capability ever just

Caine said:
Show me one place on this thread anywhere where someone stated that they do NOT support a preemptive strike to destroy a nation's nuclear weapon's capability.

Put up or stop your senseless generalization of the point.

Honestly there is no debate to be had here, everyone is in agreement, except a select few of the rabid conservatives are trying to create debate by telling other people where they stand on the issue because they have donkey images under thier avatar.

You need to read the poll two of your liberal buddies have said they would not.........

Probably you and Captain America since there is now way we would know......;)
 
Re: Is a preemptive strike to destroy a nation's nuclear weapons capability ever just

Saboteur said:
It's a good thing I'm not trying to impress you with anything other than I'm pretty much fearless when it comes to my beliefs. Something you 'safe on the boat' Navy wimps got no clue about.

Tell me, how do you take pride in having sat on boat lobbing shells blindly into Vietnamese villages?

Its not called a boat..its called a ship........boats are loaded on to ships......;)
 
Re: Is a preemptive strike to destroy a nation's nuclear weapons capability ever just

Navy Pride said:
You need to read the poll two of your liberal buddies have said they would not.........

Probably you and Captain America since there is now way we would know......;)

Well, we can blame that on you, the poll creator, for not checking the block to make votes public.

Although, you probably did that on purpose so that you can attack me in this manner like a smoke and mirror republican.
 
Re: Is a preemptive strike to destroy a nation's nuclear weapons capability ever just

Navy Pride said:
You need to read the poll two of your liberal buddies have said they would not.........

Probably you and Captain America since there is now way we would know......;)

Yet ANOTHER Navy Pride lie. :rofl
 
Re: Is a preemptive strike to destroy a nation's nuclear weapons capability ever just

Saboteur said:
It's a good thing I'm not trying to impress you with anything other than I'm pretty much fearless when it comes to my beliefs. Something you 'safe on the boat' Navy wimps got no clue about.

Tell me, how do you take pride in having sat on boat lobbing shells blindly into Vietnamese villages?

too bad you arent fearless enough in your debate tactics to keep from attacking people personally.
 
Re: Is a preemptive strike to destroy a nation's nuclear weapons capability ever just

ProudAmerican said:
too bad you arent fearless enough in your debate tactics to keep from attacking people personally.

I agree with that 100% Proud American. :applaud

But to be fair, sir, where are you when it's Navy Pride doing that?

You and I agree a lot more than we disagree and I would say that we get along quite well, wouldn't you? We are a lot closer in political ideology than we are apart.

Yet, when Navy Pride comes to this forum embarassing just about anyone who considers themselves conservative, only a few conservatives tell him what a goofball he is.

I call a goofball a goofball no matter if they are left or right. I really wish I would see more impartial posters here step up to the plate and call a spade a spade regardless of where they stand politically and not only when it's someone from the other side of the aisle.

There aren't many posters here that have the integrity that I consider you to have PA. Just food for thought bro.
 
Re: Is a preemptive strike to destroy a nation's nuclear weapons capability ever just

Captain America said:
I agree with that 100% Proud American. :applaud

But to be fair, sir, where are you when it's Navy Pride doing that?

You and I agree a lot more than we disagree and I would say that we get along quite well, wouldn't you? We are a lot closer in political ideology than we are apart.

Yet, when Navy Pride comes to this forum embarassing just about anyone who considers themselves conservative, only a few conservatives tell him what a goofball he is.

I call a goofball a goofball no matter if they are left or right. I really wish I would see more impartial posters here step up to the plate and call a spade a spade regardless of where they stand politically and not only when it's someone from the other side of the aisle.

There aren't many posters here that have the integrity that I consider you to have PA. Just food for thought bro.

Rotflmmfao :rofl Just remember that I told you in that private message and the little note I sent you to prove it PA......You judge for yourself but don't turn your back on him........

You might want to check the basement where he actually started a thread trashing another Conservative..........Just be careful......
 
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(Its quite amazing what Mutual respect can accomplish when used by those with intellect. Instead we just call evryone Evil....and wait for the inevitable....F@cking Idiots in charge of diplomacy.)

PROBABLY the most truthful quote I have ever copied and posted.
The only alteration I would have made to the quote is a change of the sixth word from the end, instead of using that expletive, I would have preferred "Mindless".

Every person either in Politics and or Government and Diplomacy wants and expects in some instances actually demands RESPECT.

Even if you do not respect someone or some Government (because it's actions you find offensive) it is no reason to openly show disrespect to that Government or person.

This US administration treats those Nations with which it disagrees with an enormous amount of disrespect.

And is consistently surprised by their reaction.

But if you wish to get them to change their ways it is better that you show a degree of respect for them and their views.

Simply because you disagree with their point of view is not an excuse for treating them as dirt.

You dont treat a dog the way you treat the Govs. of Iran and NK.

But you act surprised by their lack of a desired response.
 
jujuman13 said:
Quote
(Its quite amazing what Mutual respect can accomplish when used by those with intellect. Instead we just call evryone Evil....and wait for the inevitable....F@cking Idiots in charge of diplomacy.)

PROBABLY the most truthful quote I have ever copied and posted.
The only alteration I would have made to the quote is a change of the sixth word from the end, instead of using that expletive, I would have preferred "Mindless".

Every person either in Politics and or Government and Diplomacy wants and expects in some instances actually demands RESPECT.

Even if you do not respect someone or some Government (because it's actions you find offensive) it is no reason to openly show disrespect to that Government or person.

This US administration treats those Nations with which it disagrees with an enormous amount of disrespect.

And is consistently surprised by their reaction.

But if you wish to get them to change their ways it is better that you show a degree of respect for them and their views.

Simply because you disagree with their point of view is not an excuse for treating them as dirt.

You dont treat a dog the way you treat the Govs. of Iran and NK.

But you act surprised by their lack of a desired response.

Yep.

.....
 
Navy Pride said:
Is a preemptive strike to destroy a nation's nuclear weapons capability ever justified

I would say yes to this question. I do not, however, believe that a preemptive nuclear strike to destroy a nations nuclear weapons capability is ever justified.


Duke
 
Re: Is a preemptive strike to destroy a nation's nuclear weapons capability ever just

Captain America said:
I agree with that 100% Proud American. :applaud

But to be fair, sir, where are you when it's Navy Pride doing that?

You and I agree a lot more than we disagree and I would say that we get along quite well, wouldn't you? We are a lot closer in political ideology than we are apart.

Yet, when Navy Pride comes to this forum embarassing just about anyone who considers themselves conservative, only a few conservatives tell him what a goofball he is.

I call a goofball a goofball no matter if they are left or right. I really wish I would see more impartial posters here step up to the plate and call a spade a spade regardless of where they stand politically and not only when it's someone from the other side of the aisle.

There aren't many posters here that have the integrity that I consider you to have PA. Just food for thought bro.

guilty as charged.

Its difficult to point out certain things about people that you agree with most of the time when it comes to their political ideology.

just ask Caine.

;)
 
Re: Is a preemptive strike to destroy a nation's nuclear weapons capability ever just

You might want to also note that Navy Pride is also bringing up personal PM's the two of you have shared. Speaking of watching your back. Watch what you say to him in private. He has no integrity whatsoever as you may have already noticed.

He has done this before. He is a very jealous individual. When he sees someone he considers a "righty" getting along with someone he considers a "lefty" he will try to sneak in the back door and do what he can to upset that harmony. He simply can't handle it.

He is an old, disgruntled, individual who strives on controversy, hatered and discord. And honestly, who in their right mind can deny that? He is a hate mongerer and an embarassment to any person who considers themselves to be a conservative.

He is to the right what Michael Moore is to the left. Most people here, obviously, already has his number. He is the most hated individual here at this forum as it is plain to see. He can't make a single post without includuing his hateful spew and as a result, no less than, well, ALMOST everybody who reads him here fires back at him. He is, without a doubt, the forum enemy.

I find relief by putting him in his place down in the basement. That is the only place where I can type how I really feel about this poor soul of an individual without getting demerit points. That is my "pressure relief valve" so to speak.

He has been stalking me for years now, stinking up every thread he walks into. He is the mosquitoes on the fishing trip. He is the ants at a picnic. The reason I hate him so much is no matter where I go, there he is, trying to ruin for me, (and everybody else as well,) what could otherwise be a pleasant and positive internet experience.

It's not always his politics either. Albeit, they ARE rather rediculously extreme, it is the hateful way he goes about presenting his cockeyed views and his hateful, insulting demaner of his delivery.

His parents did a very poor job in raising him. He is a living, breathing argument FOR abortion. Had his poor excuse of a mother decided to abort him, as pro-life as I am, I could certainly understand and have turned a blind eye and looked the other way. His social skills are nill, as the world can see.

I can see why he spent so many years in the military. He is not fit for the civilian world.

I truly hope, in my heart of hearts, that someday soon I will log on and see a thread titled, "Navy Pride: Killed in a tragic, firey auto accident." I don't think I have ever expressed such ill feelings about anyone before in my life. But the years of abuse that I have taken from this sick individual have taken their toll and that's honestly how I feel.

I apologize in advance to the rest of the forum for wearing my feelings on my sleeve this morning regarding my nemesis, Navy Pride. But there does not seem to be any means to cleanse our forum home of this riff-raff and his hate and frankly, I have had enough of this piece of <self-edit>. Hate begat hate.

I know I do stand alone either. 90% of the people here, more or less, hate his guts just like I do, yet, here he is. Nobody seems to care enough to take the trash out here at our forum home.

He is a very jealous person. He can't stand it that I garner respect here from the left and right alike while he only gets disdain and hatred shown towards him. It doesn't bother me so much that he gets crap thrown at him at every post he writes. He deserves it. But when he starts trying to get the people, that I call my "cybor friends" to turn against me through their PM box, because he hasn't the guts to post his lies out for the forum to see (well, usually....he does post his share of lies I suppose :roll: ) that's the straw that breaks the camels back.

It really gets his goat that I get along well with Proud American, Easy65, Missouri Mule, and other self-professed conservatives. And like a pi$$y little high school beotch, he does all he can to drive a wedge between us.

I truly hope you guys can see through this and find the courage to set him straight. I do value our on-line relationships a lot. If I didn't, I would not be coming here and swatting Navy Pride like an annoying mosquito. I would be going somewhere else.

Have a nice day all.

Except you Navy. You can f**k off and die. (That's was worth the 2 points. :mrgreen: )
 
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Re: Is a preemptive strike to destroy a nation's nuclear weapons capability ever just

Caine said:
Well, we can blame that on you, the poll creator, for not checking the block to make votes public.

Although, you probably did that on purpose so that you can attack me in this manner like a smoke and mirror republican.

What is it with you? Why do you feel the need to attack Republicans like you do!?!?

Leave it to you to bring a perfectly good thread down with partisan bickering!!

People like you are why this nation is so divided!!!
 
I can only assure you CA that I have not said anything to anyone in private that I would be ashamed for them to see.

I dont know what he told you was said. I would only ask that he show you any actual PMs he is talking about.

Im not here for drama guys. I get enough of that from paying my mortgage and working for a living.

If I want more I will watch an episode of Law and Order.

:mrgreen:
 
Re: Is a preemptive strike to destroy a nation's nuclear weapons capability ever just

ProudAmerican said:
I can only assure you CA that I have not said anything to anyone in private that I would be ashamed for them to see.

I dont know what he told you was said. I would only ask that he show you any actual PMs he is talking about.

Im not here for drama guys. I get enough of that from paying my mortgage and working for a living.

If I want more I will watch an episode of Law and Order.

:mrgreen:

I love that show. :mrgreen:

Just be aware that he is trying to play you against me just like he did with my friend Missouri Mule. MM and I have discussed this as well and he has assured me the same as you so I am pretty "hip" to NP's tactics and take his efforts to divide with a grain of salt. No worries mate.
 
Re: Is a preemptive strike to destroy a nation's nuclear weapons capability ever just

ProudAmerican said:
too bad you arent fearless enough in your debate tactics to keep from attacking people personally.

Typical conservative responce... You can dish it out but you can't take it.:roll:
 
Re: Is a preemptive strike to destroy a nation's nuclear weapons capability ever just

Saboteur said:
Typical conservative responce... You can dish it out but you can't take it.:roll:


typical liberal response. deflect attention from the fact that you indeed did attack someone, and try to make me out to be the bad guy.

:roll:
 
Re: Is a preemptive strike to destroy a nation's nuclear weapons capability ever just

Goobieman said:
What is it with you? Why do you feel the need to attack Republicans like you do!?!?

Leave it to you to bring a perfectly good thread down with partisan bickering!!

People like you are why this nation is so divided!!!

Really Brother Caine.

Here I am jumping on NP for his divisionary tactics and his inability to present his views without a blanket insult and here you go doing the same thing.

I make a motion that we all try to go for at least a week trying to find something in common and work on our debating methods to include respect and get away from all of this negativity. No matter where we all stand as individuals, we stand together as being Americans. Let's not lose sight of that Let's try to practice that idea for a while.

This divisiveness is making me ill. It hurts me to see people I respect and call "friends" (as much as someone can be a "friend" in an online situation) going for each others throat.

I make a motion that we all rededicate ourselves to the idea of harmony here at Debate Politics. Anybody second that motion?

I know that concept is beyond some people's grasp, but any effort at all is better than none.
 
Re: Is a preemptive strike to destroy a nation's nuclear weapons capability ever just

Captain America said:
Really Brother Caine.
Here I am jumping on NP for his divisionary tactics and his inability to present his views without a blanket insult and here you go doing the same thing.
I only posted that becuse Caine has gone out of his way to do the exact same thing to me -- calling me out for "partisan bickering" and "divisiveness".

I'm just illustrating his hypocricy. Don't take it too hard. :mrgreen:
 
Re: Is a preemptive strike to destroy a nation's nuclear weapons capability ever just

ProudAmerican said:
typical liberal response. deflect attention from the fact that you indeed did attack someone, and try to make me out to be the bad guy.

:roll:


You are the bad guy.
 
Re: Is a preemptive strike to destroy a nation's nuclear weapons capability ever just

Saboteur said:
You are the bad guy.

I see your attempts at getting banned have failed. :roll:

Run the play until you get it right.
 
Re: Is a preemptive strike to destroy a nation's nuclear weapons capability ever just

Goobieman said:
What is it with you? Why do you feel the need to attack Republicans like you do!?!?

Leave it to you to bring a perfectly good thread down with partisan bickering!!

People like you are why this nation is so divided!!!

Why do you, Navy, Aqua, Calm2Chaos, JamesRage and ProudAm feel the need to attack liberals?

All of you sit here point your fingers and make fun of liberals here on a regular basis.

Heck even Navy tried to put the blame of one of his own failed posts on a liberal, showing exactly how dillusional conservatives have become in the campaign to demonize liberals and Democrats. If you want bi-partisan discussion then then you have to make the change with us.

I know your post was for Caine but I feel obligated to point out that most of the time the partisan bickering starts when a conservative doesn't have anything substancial to counter a factual point brought into the debate. Anything we bring up is usually countered with something like "well you and your terrorist buddies" or "you and your hero Hilary, Slick Willie, John Kerry Harry Reid" etc. etc.

And I have news for you folks, until it stops, I'm gonna keep the gloves off and hit below the belt every time I feel I have to. 'Cuz right now what we have is point brough up by conservatives then a liberal makes a counter point and conservatives start flaming them. Then when a liberal flames back it's 'OOOH POOR ME I"VE BEEN FLAMED can't you guys have a real debate!? WAAAAA'
 
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