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As was mentioned the courts and society as a whole. What society swept under the carpet decades ago, blatant discrimination against the disabled for one, gays for another is no longer tolerated.You don't get to determine what another person considers a religious act
'Secular progressives' -the new boogeyman for the Extreme Right. :lamo Used to be those commies but now it's those 'secular progressives'. Do you check under the bed each night for them as you used to do for the dreaded commies?
As was mentioned the courts and society as a whole. What society swept under the carpet decades ago, blatant discrimination against the disabled for one, gays for another is no longer tolerated.
Nor should it be.
LMAO Defend marriage, reparative therapy works ohhhh rah!
Speaking of commies, Obama hasn't checked in on the pizza shop incident yet. Anybody else see an IRS audit in their future. Maybe a visit from OSHA and a couple more alphabet agencies. I'm sure the NSA has a lock on themsecular progressive.. commie...same diff.
Again, neither the courts nor society get to decide for an individual what is a religious exercise to him
If I cared, I'd do a Google search of just what comes out of Bryan Fisher's mouth over at AFA. And then I could quote some lobbyists in Indiana, etc. Some of these groups are proudly anti-gay and proudly opposed to their interests. If you think it's a lie that "family" "Christian" groups don't oppose any public policy that would extend or guarantee rights for gays, then you're not paying attentioin. In the public arena, a small number of vocal and well funded "Christian" groups oppose EVERY proposal that would benefit the LGBT community, and favor many that are not in their best interests. Conservative "Christian" republicans like Pence have perfect 100%/0% records on issues of interest to LGBT. So a lot of this is just politics.
It's too bad that Christians may get defined by those intolerant blowhards, but you clearly have no problem defining gays and liberals by a small number of vocal liberals.
Liberal's main argument: gay marriage doesn't effect you.
go tell it to this pizza guy who has been physically threatened and had to shut his business down. THAT'S how gay marriage effected him.
and what if next week a jewish kosher deli refuses to cater a gay wedding and THEY are run out of town. Aren't THEY effected by gay marriage.
just proves my point about liberal arguments: they are all disposable after they get what they want
Many Christians...MOST Christians treat homosexuals with love. We care, we hope for their happiness, and we love them. We don't change our personal beliefs with regard to the act of homosexuality or gay marriage, but we still love them care for them, and hope for their happiness. THEIR happiness...as defined by them. We simply don't condone. and that makes a whole lot of bitter angry hate filled people gay lose their sad ****ing little minds.I concede that Christians treat homosexuals better than ISIS. Have a cookie.
Well, no - they're getting donations because of the outrageous response (including death threats) that came from "possibly not catering a wedding".
After making more tax-free money in a week than their taxed income for the year would have been [emoji38]
I really feel for that poor Pizza guy. Maybe next time he'll keep his bigotry to himself. You can say whatever you want - just don't start whining when you suffer the consequences.
And you just proved my point about almost every conservative in the world. Nothing trumps property rights.
So give them your money to make a point? I don't understand that line of thinking. If it's a politician, a charity, or a preacher it makes sense.
By this logic, I can have a profitable business by simply claiming I won't serve gays and then moan about how the ebil libruls are ruining me.
Except the right of the people to form a govt of their own choosing.
Is that your standard? So I can look up a few vile comments from bitter angry hate filled intolerant assholes that support gay marriage and you will own that?
It isn't about the legality, it's about the morality. The pizza shop owner never said he wouldn't cater a same sex wedding because same sex marriages are illegal
Speaking of commies, Obama hasn't checked in on the pizza shop incident yet. Anybody else see an IRS audit in their future. Maybe a visit from OSHA and a couple more alphabet agencies. I'm sure the NSA has a lock on them
That is one of the most stupid lines of reasoning I saw in quite some time on this board.
So, have we got a verdict yet?
DOES the pizza joint serve fat people, or lazy people, or teenage boys, etc?
Probably. Why? Have the food police made it illegal to sell pizza? I thought they were focused on limiting access to sugary drinks.
I never said they couldn't.
Are those things I have listed sinful?
Why, then, are business owners cherry picking which sins they find abhorrent, and which they are willing to tolerate in the pursuit of money?
Dont be foolish. There are more than a few that weep and wail and gnash their teeth at any and everyone that dares to not cave and capitulate and if you think there arent a large number assigning their hatred to ALL Christians...you arent reading threads on this site very closely.You missed the point. You said most Christians weren't launching vile diatribes. True. Most gays aren't either, but you said they were. There are radicals and blowhards holding any position under the sun. Movements aren't defined by them.
However, if you want to know why gays target those vocal "Christian" family GROUPS in the POLITICAL ARENA, look at who was standing with Pence when he signed the bill, what they said, and you'll have your answer.
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