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Sounds to me as if you're letting the rhetoric of the right get to you. Don't give in to the politics of fear.
Regards, stay safe 'n well.
You arent stupid enough to the think they actually care about race, racism, or racists...yet you make stupid statements like that.
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You will just be a soft target of convenience.
So I'm in the northeast and there's not much gun culture here. I fired a gun twice in my life, in the early 90's. The ease with which Seattle's police department was overtaken by a violent mob has me a bit concerned.
Does anyone have any recommendations for proper training and weapon selection to defend against a similar situation happening near me? I'm concerned that "antifa" will rampage through MY neighborhood and deny ME the right to live as an American.
=BlueTex;1072060168]This is one of my favorites... Let me ask, let's say you live in a town of 100,000 people or around there... How much hunting would be going on in your scenario? Let's say 25% of the town was out hunting every day, thats 25,000 hunters roaming your little town every day. How much "big game" is there in your town?
PS: If this scenario comes to pass, I recommend hiding your snacks, I mean pets...
AR15 with a 30 round clip. Hardly any recoil, light, small enough to get around the corners in the house.
The bullets are so fast they cause hydrostatic shock, killing people in an instant who would've lived had they been shot with a 9mm.
It's a rifle, so you can easily hit things way beyond accurate pistol range. Plus it shoots flat.
With a 30 round clip, you can stop a riot in its tracks.
That post nailed it. :applaud
You arent stupid enough to the think they actually care about race, racism, or racists...yet you make stupid statements like that.
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What's the point of shooting people if you're not going to stop the threat they pose? If someone is going to continue to shoot back after 9mm hits...why on earth not use the most effective thing you can shoot well?
(And btw, I'm not accepting your example about 9mm ammo/handguns. It all depends on distance, accuracy, load/config (FMJ or hollowpoint for ex.) etc etc. But I can still make my point with your example)
What do you consider beyond pistol range? This is a serious question as most ar owners I deal with think they are only good for 50 yards like they have no knowlede on guns and bought them as a fad without even knowing what it was capable of.
In the army We used the m-16 basically the military version of he same but with select fire. We had to qualify at up to 300 yards/meters(forget which i has been long enough) however he army did competitions out to 500, while he marines qualified at 500. However 500 is low compared to actual full power rifles, in the past 800-1k yards for training or quals with iron sights would have been normal, however the caliber then was very capable.
With 5.56 or .223 it is possible to get 1k yards/meters with high accuracy but they do have to usually run custom loads, as the bullet is usually too light to remain stable at those distances. Up to 500 yards it is considered deadly, it will kill well beyond that and may hit it's target well beyong that, but the military set their standards off of reliable proven results.
All this rambling is just really to one point, do you understand the ar-15 to reccomend it or even the caliber used, or is it just hype you are pushing rather than function.
And a round that can kill someone half a mile away is perhaps not the best option.
Everyone should own:
- .22 for small game
- combat shotgun with bird shot for home defense (no need to kill, just scare, or pepper legs)
- 9mm handgun for defense
- 30-30 or bigger rifle for hunting in case we enter Mad Max world
This is just prudent, in my opinion.
Does anyone have any recommendations for proper training and weapon selection to defend against a similar situation happening near me?
So I'm in the northeast and there's not much gun culture here. I fired a gun twice in my life, in the early 90's. The ease with which Seattle's police department was overtaken by a violent mob has me a bit concerned.
Does anyone have any recommendations for proper training and weapon selection to defend against a similar situation happening near me? I'm concerned that "antifa" will rampage through MY neighborhood and deny ME the right to live as an American.
I'm saying a AR15 .223 will stop pretty much any man, even if he's wearing a bullet proof vest. It has a lot more accuracy than a pistol, and enough firepower that you don't have to be as accurate.
So I'm in the northeast and there's not much gun culture here. I fired a gun twice in my life, in the early 90's. The ease with which Seattle's police department was overtaken by a violent mob has me a bit concerned.
Does anyone have any recommendations for proper training and weapon selection to defend against a similar situation happening near me? I'm concerned that "antifa" will rampage through MY neighborhood and deny ME the right to live as an American.
1-I always draw a distinction between liberals and leftists. 2-If people dont want to be drawn in with ANTIFA, they probably shouldnt spend most of their time defending them. The reality is that they leftists that defend ANTIFA dont know **** about them, nor do they care, all they see them as is a wedge against conservatives (all conservatives) and therefore, a good thing.But that's why every time you guys try to lump the entire left, even ordinary Democrats, in with Antifa, you look idiotic doing it.
Antifa generally loathe liberals and Democrats, we're not far Left enough for them, so they consider us traitors.
Plus, for those in Antifa who are also anarchists, we are loathsome enough anyway because we are statists, sworn enemy of all that is anarchy related.
Not only do you folks know zero about Antifa, or anarchists, you also don't know anything about the left in general except what Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson tell you, when you're not consuming fare cooked up in the The Kremlin Kitchens or the Q-Anon Pizza Parlor Basement Annex.
You peddle your well funded revisionist bullcrap and then expect people to take you seriously.
Hitler a leftist? Modern day Democrats on the side of the Klan? You're peddling pure insanity.
Is it "the rhetoric of the right"laying waste to Seattle? I say pull the police out(with pay)and let the anti police mobs burn it to the ground, then WA. rebuilds it on the states dime. A petri dish of what happens.
So I'm in the northeast and there's not much gun culture here. I fired a gun twice in my life, in the early 90's. The ease with which Seattle's police department was overtaken by a violent mob has me a bit concerned.
Does anyone have any recommendations for proper training and weapon selection to defend against a similar situation happening near me? I'm concerned that "antifa" will rampage through MY neighborhood and deny ME the right to live as an American.
not saying that, its great for small game hunting, but you don't think its also good for someone budget wise/ease of getting acclimated to for a beginner?
Nah, useless as an arsenal. You need 7.62 (or at least 556) for an arsenal.
This is just home defense, with a view towards not letting rounds escape the immediate area, and putting food on the table if society falls apart.
Everyone should own a shotgun for defense, bare minimum, and just use bird shot so it's not about killing people.
I think I have watched every video he has made. He is understated...doesnt do the tacticool gig. He gives honest reviews.No, I don't work for Paul Harrell, I just love the guy, lol. He is the real deal. He will be the first to tell you though, what works for him, may not work for you.
I think I have watched every video he has made. He is understated...doesnt do the tacticool gig. He gives honest reviews.
I agree with him completely about the round, and as he says...it works for HIM...but if you are a shooter interested in the Beretta, you should go to a range that will let you rent their guns and try before you buy. The Beretta 92FS grip is a bit large for people with small to medium and even some large hands. Many of the servicemen I shot with had to actually manipulate their shooting hand around the grip to get to the magazine release.
But that would be HIS point as well. FOR HIM.
Good point....and as I posted in another thread, Lady Bum traded her older 9mm for an M&P Shield 9mm EZ; lighter, smaller grip, and easier to rack the slide.
Even Baby Girl Bum has an easy time with it...highly recommended for those with smaller hands.
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