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If you find gay/trans perverted, why?

I understood what he meant.

For example if I was to say a trans woman is a man of identifies as a woman I would be told that I'm transfer that I can they really are women despite the fact that they're not.

Essentially I have to deny reality to be an ally. At least with regard to the way some people think. There are certainly a wide variance of opinions and dew points from actual trans people regarding this.

Sucks that the folks you ride with on the trans issue look at you the same way when it comes to discussing the gay issue. That's gotta be conflicting on some level.
 
1996 called it wants it's talking points back

With what?

Haha.. snark is such a satisfying snack coming from you. ;)

For amplifying the messaging of and aligning with the folks who would have made no distinction between you and the trans person when it came to Saturday night ass kicking time back in '96. Or significantly more recently for some.

Seems like a solution from Stockholm to me.
 
Haha.. snark is such a satisfying snack coming from you. ;)
What would you use to come back at some pathetic conspiracy theory? Seriously the idea that the type of people that voted for Trump wherever the type of people that had an issue with gay people is really kind of funny to me.

Those super serious button down George Bush style conservatives have just as much TDS as you do.
For amplifying the messaging of the folks who would have made no distinction between you and the trans person when it came to Saturday night ass kicking time back in '96. Or significantly more recently for some.
I was 13 and 1996.
Seems like a solution from Stockholm to me.
But is that based on a true understanding of these people or a convenient dismissal?
 
What would you use to come back at some pathetic conspiracy theory? Seriously the idea that the type of people that voted for Trump wherever the type of people that had an issue with gay people is really kind of funny to me.

Those super serious button down George Bush style conservatives have just as much TDS as you do.

I was 13 and 1996.

But is that based on a true understanding of these people or a convenient dismissal?

Uh, I didn't say anything about Trump, bud, why are you bringing him into this conversation? Very weird and amateur attempt at diverting the discussion into comfortable territory on your part. I'm guessing that responding to what i actually said was a little uncomfortable? That's what this lame tactic suggests anyway.... wanna give your post another go? :)

What do you mean you were 13 and 1996? If that's a reference to something it's too obscure for me. Please explain.

Your last paragraph appears interesting at first glance, but I'm not sure what you're accusing me of. Please elaborate.
 
Uh, I didn't say anything about Trump, bud,
So when you make reference to people that I'm riding with, what are you talking about? Are you talking about Christian nationalists or lizard people or the Illuminati what?
why are you bringing him into this conversation?
Okay my mistake, (don't worry I know it's incredibly smug for me to admit my mistake) who do you think I'm riding with?
Very weird and amateur attempt at diverting the discussion into comfortable territory on your part.
Okay I made an assumption and I was wrong there's no need to harp on it like this.
I'm guessing that responding to what i actually said was a little uncomfortable?
If you weren't referring to a political movement I don't know what you referring to. Again I apologize for assuming.
That's what this lame tactic suggests anyway.... wanna give your post another go? :)
So we've gotten past the point where I made an assumption and it was apparently incorrect.

In post number 251 you made reference to folks I ride with. I assumed that to mean people who voted for Trump because if there's anyone I ride with politically that's who it is.

So who were these folks that you presume me to be riding with?
What do you mean you were 13 and 1996? If that's a reference to something it's too obscure for me. Please explain.
I was never involved or part of any ass kicking time on Saturday night in 1996 that you can win reference to on post number 253.

So I don't know what you're talking about
Your last paragraph appears interesting at first glance, but I'm not sure what you're accusing me of. Please elaborate.
You elaborate on these mysterious folks I ride with that again you referenced in post 251 and then maybe I'll clear something up because I don't know what you're talking about.
 
Gay men are so gross they make me want to vomit, but some transgender women look good if you don't look under the hood.
 
Gay men are so gross they make me want to vomit,
Do you spend a lot of time thinking about gay men?
but some transgender women look good if you don't look under the hood.
Yeah it's kind of strange that there seems to be this idea that convert someone into or out of homosexuality by the fact that they're outward appearance attractive
 
Gay men are so gross they make me want to vomit, but some transgender women look good if you don't look under the hood.

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But how does that equate to it not being natural? For example it's abnormal for a bird to be 6 ft tall and flightless but I don't think you would say an ostrich is unnatural
Not an apt comparison IMO. My take on this is mostly the penis into the male anus, and females not wanting to procreate with men thing. And before you ask, no, I am not religious. Strictly biological perspective.
 
Not an apt comparison IMO. My take on this is mostly the penis into the male anus, and females not wanting to procreate with men thing. And before you ask, no, I am not religious. Strictly biological perspective.

There is no scientific reason to ban gay sex. If you don't personally like it, don't have it.
 
Not an apt comparison IMO. My take on this is mostly the penis into the male anus, and females not wanting to procreate with men thing.
Well I'm not 100% sure that it's not wanting to procreate it's not being capable of it.

And what would be the difference between a penis going into a man's anus or a penis going into a woman's anus? Also why would that be unnatural?
And before you ask, no, I am not religious. Strictly biological perspective.
I'm not offended or personally invested in this just so you know I'm a homosexual man myself.

When I hear the term unnatural I think of something contrived either by human activity or as a secondary result of human activity.

An example of something contrived by man is planting banana trees in a specific formation so is that there are methodically easy to harvest. And a secondary result of human activity would be bananas that exist with no seeds and thus have no ability to procreate without human intervention


Is that a definition you accept and if not how would you define unnatural?
 
Maybe normal to them. Biologically it is not. So yes it is unnatural.
It is somewhat uncommon, but that does not mean it is unnatural.

Do you consider left handedness or red hair unnatural?
 
It is somewhat uncommon, but that does not mean it is unnatural.

Do you consider left handedness or red hair unnatural?
I get what he's saying he's suggesting it's unnatural because it can't possibly lead to procreation but there's a lot of human sexual behavior that doesn't. I like to believe that there's more to it biologically and just procreation. It's too establish a Pair bondto become close. Just like if you were to kiss or hold your wife or girlfriend or vice versa. These things cannot lead to procreation but they help you is establish of Pair bond and I think that that's natural.

Personally I would love to procreate to have a child. To be a father. The only way I can do that the natural way is to do something I can't do. I tried for many years to make that work it never did.
 
In my opinion, you can believe that homosexuality is unnatural and kind of gross, and still not be bigoted towards homosexuals.
No, you can't. You can't because you are already starting from the belief that it is unnatural, which is completely wrong and unscientific. You can find anything gross, but it seems highly suspect if you find someone else's relationships "gross" and feel the need to speak about it.

Consider this statement:

In my opinion, you can believe that blue eyes is unnatural and kind of gross, and still not be bigoted towards blue eyed people.
 
There is no such thing as cis.
It is a made-up crap word.
Did they teach you about Julius Caesar in American schools? They taught me here that he was Governor of a province called 'Transalpine Gaul', Gaul on the other side of the Alps, called that to differentiate it from 'Cisalpine Gaul', Gaul on this side of the Alps.
 
but it seems highly suspect if you find someone else's relationships "gross" and feel the need to speak about it.
Who said anything about speaking about it? I'm talking about having a belief. I can have my beliefs about homosexuality, and still not treat homosexuals any differently than I do anyone else I know and work with. As a matter of fact, one of my favorite employees is gay. And I actually threw a customer out of my store and trespassed him for calling that employee the F word. I have family members who are gay and I love them and treat them the same as any other member. You can have beliefs and at the same time not pass judgement or prothstelize. Pretty easy.
 
Robert Morris: A former Texas megachurch pastor and spiritual advisor to Donald Trump, indicted on five counts of child sexual abuse.
Ricci Wynne: A MAGA influencer, charged with "pimping" women and producing child sexual abuse material.
John Jessup: A Republican commissioner of Hancock, Indiana, pleaded guilty to attempting to sexually assault his daughter.
Ray Holmberg: A retired North Dakota Republican state senator, pleaded guilty to traveling to Europe with the intent to have sex with a minor.
Zachary Radcliff: A church leader and supporter of the MAGA movement, charged with multiple felonies, including sexual abuse of children.
John W. Radcliff II: A youth pastor charged with nearly 200 sex crimes going back to the 1980s.
Jason Yates: 55, the former CEO of evangelical nonprofit My Faith Votes, was charged in Minnesota with eight counts of possessing child sexual abuse materials.
Minnesota state Sen. Justin Eichorn (R) faced a federal criminal charge accusing him of soliciting sex from someone he thought was 17—who turned out to be an undercover cop.
Eight members of a paramilitary Christian sect, Aggressive Christianity Missions Training Corps, in New Mexico were arrested on charges of child sexual abuse and other crimes against children.

But yes please tell us all how gay and trans people are all perverts.
 
Who said anything about speaking about it? I'm talking about having a belief. I can have my beliefs about homosexuality, and still not treat homosexuals any differently than I do anyone else I know and work with. As a matter of fact, one of my favorite employees is gay. And I actually threw a customer out of my store and trespassed him for calling that employee the F word. I have family members who are gay and I love them and treat them the same as any other member. You can have beliefs and at the same time not pass judgement or prothstelize. Pretty easy.
Sounds like then that you don't actually find them "gross", but for some reason feel the need to claim it.
 
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