IF vaccinations work........

[snakestretcher]

He does situps.

Of course! I hear they work wonders with Ebola too.

 

[Luther]

Most normal sensible and responsible people get vaccinated. The idiots who don't endanger everyone else. Why is it that those idiots all seem to be conservatives?

Most normal sensible and responsible people get vaccinated.

So then it's us conservatives that are at risk?

Why do you care so much for us?

 

[snakestretcher]

So then it's us conservatives that are at risk?

Why do you care so much for us?

Because, old chum, if you're un-vaccinated you could be an asymptomatic carrier infecting those who are free of the virus and have yet to be vaccinated. Clear enough?

 

[CaughtInThe]

So then it's us conservatives that are at risk?

Why do you care so much for us?

because the spread kills older Americans (and evidently 300 kids which i didn't know about).

 

[Luther]

because the spread kills older Americans (and evidently 300 kids which i didn't know about).

No silly

The elderly were some of the first that had a chance to be vaccinated

 

[CaughtInThe]

No silly

The elderly were some of the first that had a chance to be vaccinated

hang on.

are you one of the guys who thinks the deaths have stopped?

 

[minnie616]

No silly

The elderly were some of the first that had a chance to be vaccinated

hang on.

are you one of the guys who thinks the deaths have stopped?

From an article dated Tuesday May 11, 2021

Average daily U.S. Covid cases fall below 40,000 for the first time since September

The rate of average new Covid cases in the U.S. fell to 38,800 per day Monday, the first time daily case counts have been below 40,000 since September.

www.cnbc.com

Average daily U.S. Covid cases fall below 40,000 for the first time since September

PUBLISHED TUE, MAY 11 202110:01 AM EDT

 

[ElChupacabra]

What a dumb reply. Why do you even bother? You have to pay for your vaccinations in America? How backward.

For COVID 19, no. To clarify, it's not directly out of pocket.

 

[CaughtInThe]

From an article dated Tuesday May 11, 2021

Average daily U.S. Covid cases fall below 40,000 for the first time since September

The rate of average new Covid cases in the U.S. fell to 38,800 per day Monday, the first time daily case counts have been below 40,000 since September.

www.cnbc.com

Average daily U.S. Covid cases fall below 40,000 for the first time since September

PUBLISHED TUE, MAY 11 202110:01 AM EDT

i think 499 Americans died from COVID yesterday.

that brings our total to right at 600k.


i normally use March 2020 as the starting point so...

600,000
divided by
14
=
42,857



we averaged a flu season every month. crazy, huh?

 

[Manc Skipper]

Read my post....those who DIE from Covid....not those who get it. Those who do get it are the lucky ones actually. They are immune. Tell me I'm wrong, nurse year2late. Did you also hear that those who got Covid are better off than those who got the vaccine?

It's lookig like the immunity gained for infection may be poor and temporary. accination is recommended for post covid patients. It helps with long Covid diease too.

 

[Paradoxical]

We'll see how it plays out. As it stands now we have dropping rates and easing of restrictions in some states without any surges, which is why I'm cautiously optimistic. I do think that if there is a surge across some areas, there's a good chance it will not be as big or impact healthcare services as badly.

Here I am just a layperson and have been trying to tell all of you, including noonereal, what herd immunity is and means and none of you listen. Hot off the press today, an article confirming what I have been saying. It does NOT mean the number of people vaccinated. WHERE do you folks get this idea from,???

Dr. Nicole Saphier: COVID-19 and America – the state of emergency is over and it's time to declare it

It's clear that the COVID-19 emergency is over. It is prudent now for our leaders and health officials to allow the country to return to pre-coronavirus activities.

www.foxnews.com

The true definition of herd immunity where once a sufficient amount of the population has immunity, as demonstrated by declining cases, hospitalizations and deaths (and not the number of people vaccinated) the entire community can resume activities with low risk of transmission.

The wall of protection from the amount of natural immunity has consistently been ignored. To date, the amount of reinfections following natural infection are similar if not less than breakthrough cases after vaccination, demonstrating the robustness of natural immunity.

A study last month in The Lancet shows that people who recovered from a prior SARS-CoV-2 infection had an 84% lower risk of reinfection and a 93% lower risk of symptomatic infection. Some argue that this data only shows 7 months of follow up. They point out that how long the immunity lasts after infection remains unknown. But the same can be said of the COVID-19 vaccines, which also have limited long-term data.

Now I suppose one of you here will claim this doctor doesn't know what she's talking about and idiots like Fausti and Biden know more than her.

 

[Paradoxical]

Contact tracing.

A choir decided to go ahead with rehearsal. Now dozens of members have COVID-19 and two are dead

A choir decided to go ahead with rehearsal. Now dozens of members have COVID-19 and two are dead

The deadly outbreak among members of a choir has stunned health officials, who have concluded that the virus was almost certainly transmitted through the air from one or more people without symptoms.

www.latimes.com

Multiple COVID-19 Outbreaks Linked to a Wedding Reception in Rural Maine — August 7–September 14, 2020

Multiple COVID-19 Outbreaks Linked to a Wedding Reception in ...

This report describes a COVID-19 outbreak linked to a wedding reception in a rural town in Maine.

www.cdc.gov

185 coronavirus (COVID-19) cases now linked to outbreak at East Lansing bar
143 of 185 infected people were customers at Harper's Restaurant and Brew Pub

185 coronavirus (COVID-19) cases now linked to outbreak at East Lansing bar

Ingham County health officials say a total of 185 coronavirus (COVID-19) cases are now tied to an outbreak at a bar in East Lansing as of Saturday evening.

www.clickondetroit.com

That is hardly scientific testing.

 

[Paradoxical]

What don't you understand. We have had many 40-60 year olds that were working prior to being hospitalized....intubated and ventilated -dont you think many of them died? You act like only the old and the infirm succumbed to the disease. Luckily protocols and education have helped the survival rates for all.

I have consistently said that this disease PRIMARILY causes deaths among the elderly and those with preexisting conditions. Those who are younger and in good health RARELY die from it.

Got anything else for me doc? I have something for you.

Dr. Nicole Saphier: COVID-19 and America – the state of emergency is over and it's time to declare it

It's clear that the COVID-19 emergency is over. It is prudent now for our leaders and health officials to allow the country to return to pre-coronavirus activities.

www.foxnews.com

The wall of protection from the amount of natural immunity has consistently been ignored. To date, the amount of reinfections following natural infection are similar if not less than breakthrough cases after vaccination, demonstrating the robustness of natural immunity.

A study last month in The Lancet shows that people who recovered from a prior SARS-CoV-2 infection had an 84% lower risk of reinfection and a 93% lower risk of symptomatic infection. Some argue that this data only shows 7 months of follow up. They point out that how long the immunity lasts after infection remains unknown. But the same can be said of the COVID-19 vaccines, which also have limited long-term data.

 

[Paradoxical]

Okay...how much did Jane Doe's abortion last week cost you. Tell us. Show your work.

See Planned Abortions Parenthood

 

[Paradoxical]

I googled please post your own link because I am pretty sure you heard wrong.

This is 2 days ago

Here’s the difference between getting COVID immunity from a vaccine and from an infection

The CDC says the risk of illness and death from COVID-19 "far outweighs any benefits of natural immunity."

www.abc10.com

Here is a REAL doctor that disagrees with the commies at the CDC

Dr. Nicole Saphier: COVID-19 and America – the state of emergency is over and it's time to declare it

It's clear that the COVID-19 emergency is over. It is prudent now for our leaders and health officials to allow the country to return to pre-coronavirus activities.

www.foxnews.com

The wall of protection from the amount of natural immunity has consistently been ignored. To date, the amount of reinfections following natural infection are similar if not less than breakthrough cases after vaccination, demonstrating the robustness of natural immunity.



A study last month in The Lancet shows that people who recovered from a prior SARS-CoV-2 infection had an 84% lower risk of reinfection and a 93% lower risk of symptomatic infection. Some argue that this data only shows 7 months of follow up. They point out that how long the immunity lasts after infection remains unknown. But the same can be said of the COVID-19 vaccines, which also have limited long-term data.

 

[Paradoxical]

What a dumb reply. Why do you even bother? You have to pay for your vaccinations in America? How backward.

How idiotic can one be to think Pfizer and others is a benevolent society that just gives people FREE shots! Are you a socie? (socialist)

 

[Paradoxical]

Have you been tested? If not you have no way of knowing if you're a carrier or not.

This is frigging insane. You could be a carrier of TB or malaria or ebola.
I am not sick and I'll be damned if I play into the neurosis of a liberal and get tested because libbies are nail biting. You wanna live in fear.....be my guest. Don't EVER demand I do the same.

 

[Paradoxical]

How do you know you didn't get it from 'Mary or Jack'?

I know I am in better shape than probably all of you nail-biting posters

 

[dncc]

See Planned Abortions Parenthood

You're now backtracking from your silly allegations. I'd like to say I was surprised....but I'm not. We're used to it.

 

[Paradoxical]

It's lookig like the immunity gained for infection may be poor and temporary. accination is recommended for post covid patients. It helps with long Covid diease too.

It's looking like all of you are 100% wrong

Dr. Nicole Saphier: COVID-19 and America – the state of emergency is over and it's time to declare it

It's clear that the COVID-19 emergency is over. It is prudent now for our leaders and health officials to allow the country to return to pre-coronavirus activities.

www.foxnews.com

The wall of protection from the amount of natural immunity has consistently been ignored. To date, the amount of reinfections following natural infection are similar if not less than breakthrough cases after vaccination, demonstrating the robustness of natural immunity.

A study last month in The Lancet shows that people who recovered from a prior SARS-CoV-2 infection had an 84% lower risk of reinfection and a 93% lower risk of symptomatic infection. Some argue that this data only shows 7 months of follow up. They point out that how long the immunity lasts after infection remains unknown. But the same can be said of the COVID-19 vaccines, which also have limited long-term data.

Why are so many of you so wrong all the time? CNN, CDC? MSNBS? WaPo, The NY Times?

 

[Paradoxical]

You're now backtracking from your silly allegations. I'd like to say I was surprised....but I'm not. We're used to it.

Do I know you?

There are currently 16 states who use their own state funds to pay for elective abortions and similar services. These states include Alaska, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Montana, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Vermont, and Washington.

I live in one of those states. Does this answer your question now?

 

[Ginger Ale]

For most yes. The problem comes in functioning in business though. If you think the shutdowns were bad for the economy, imagine a situation where 80 percent of your workforce is sick.

And if enough people require hospitalization (as Trump did), it becomes more than the system can handle.

Most of you on the right missed the whole point of the restrictions. (To be fair, many on the left too) It wasn't to STOP transmission, it was to manage the spread. "Flatten the curve" so that the new cases did not suddenly explode into too many for the health system to handle.

Now, there's a vaccine. Which is great
It diesn't mean that some new variant doesn't subvert it (which even under your plan of get everyone sick would be a danger). Nothing in life is 100 percent. Life is dangerous and no politician of any party is going to stop that.

This is so true. I own a company with 5 employees, as an owner I had to distance so I'd be there to run the company. We had to make sure to separate them as much as we could so they don't all get Covid around the same time. We can't handle it because the leave time is so high. During the peak I had 3 guys out waiting for tests to come back that had to stay away from customers and other employees. It puts a strain on the business for sure. But, I also had friends in the same business who had owners and employees get really ill and some died from it so you have to be vigilant. You can't just say, come to work sick, etc. It's not the old days.
I don't think people generally think about the strain on business owners unless they themselves own one or are smart enough to look into it.
This new CDC recommendation is leaving things up in the air. Not so sure it will go smoothly. Thankfully, my workforce is vaccinated, at least they said they got it. That's another issue.

 

[dncc]

Do I know you?

There are currently 16 states who use their own state funds to pay for elective abortions and similar services. These states include Alaska, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Montana, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Vermont, and Washington.

I live in one of those states. Does this answer your question now?

Feel free to link to this.
Also feel free to tell us how much it costs you.

You can do that, can't you?

 

[Paradoxical]

Feel free to link to this.
Also feel free to tell us how much it costs you.

You can do that, can't you?

Are you a socialist who imagines that when a state, municipal, city or federal government pays for something, that means it's free?

 

[Ginger Ale]

It's looking like all of you are 100% wrong

Dr. Nicole Saphier: COVID-19 and America – the state of emergency is over and it's time to declare it

It's clear that the COVID-19 emergency is over. It is prudent now for our leaders and health officials to allow the country to return to pre-coronavirus activities.

www.foxnews.com

Why are so many of you so wrong all the time? CNN, CDC? MSNBS? WaPo, The NY Times?

To me, you have the luxury of not caring or worrying. Enjoy it.
Some of us have to weigh things out because our lively hood requires it.

Some states are on the rise like Alabama, mostly UK variant and a lot of people forgoing vaccinations. That combo will increase cases.

We will see how it turns out. Nobody knows, regardless of how confident they seem today, they can be wrong tomorrow.

Vaccination is a double edge sword, the virus didn't have to mutate as much when nobody had antibodies to it. In that case, distancing and mask wearing did a good job. Now we have a vaccine, but with that the virus will mutate more so that it can get around our immunity. Those who are not vaccinated and not distancing will still end up in our hospitals and worse yet, be part of that death count. Which is as high as it was when this pandemic started to really kick in. We're just used to the numbers now. It's just gone down from the peak.

I have a sneaking suspicion you've been vaccinated tho. I think quite a few have that are embarrassed to say it because of their political agenda. It doesn't fit the narrative.