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If Trump is not behaving as an authoritarian

And their addiction to their game has been the root cause of every societal collapse.

It is an addictive behavior like sex addiction or gambling addiction. Status addiction. We did not evolve with greed or power hunger as we experience it. Nobody was gonna carry your extra crap. There were no weak in the extended families of relatively physically equal alpha predators. Even the folks doing the gathering were in constant danger from being food for some animals and predators to others that took every opportunity to stomp us out in self defense.

Yep, this is also why the psychopaths who justify wealth-hoarding in the name of social Darwinism are full of ****ing garbage.
 
Why is it so easy to find so many parallels to fascist regimes in the past and the present?
Simple answer: When you have so many posters still reeling from a defeat at the polls last November, you're going to have millions of disgruntled election losers targeting the most visible reason for their loss. And that would be:
TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!

To those who still find Kamala's loss still hard to accept, the only thing left to complain about is the guy who delivered the final blow to the Democrat Party.
That does not mean the GOP should be complacent and not work hard to minimize the threat from the next mid-term elections. The fewer House seats the Dems win next year, the better the GOP will be able to handle the inevitable impeachment attacks.
 
Because Logical Fallacy is easy for even the shallowest thinkers.

It's not a fallacy if it's ****ing true.

Hell, during Obama's 8 years I saw right-wingers call him Hitler, dictator, tyrant for things that are 100 times tamer than things Trump does on a daily ****ing basis.

Meanwhile, legal scholars are saying fascism, historians are saying this is ****ing fascism, YOU would be saying this is fascism if someone else did it, but here you are with just more bullshit gaslighting.

How many times did right wingers cry THEY'RE WEAPONIZING THE JUSTICE SYSTEM, meanwhile Stephen Miller is over here doing an ILLEGAL mass kidnapping and human trafficking campaign and y'all either shrug your shoulders or cheer it on. Don't worry the brownshirts didn't think they were the bad guys either.

I swear, being a history major is ****ing wild when you see the entire ****ing society fail an open-book test in real time.
 
It's not a fallacy if it's ****ing true.

Nope.

Also, someone who supports the party that just spent 5 years trying to get Trump thrown in jail and off the ballot should probably not try the "he's weaponizing the justice system!!" bullshit. :rolleyes:
 
It's not a fallacy if it's ****ing true.

Hell, during Obama's 8 years I saw right-wingers call him Hitler, dictator, tyrant for things that are 100 times tamer than things Trump does on a daily ****ing basis.

Meanwhile, legal scholars are saying fascism, historians are saying this is ****ing fascism, YOU would be saying this is fascism if someone else did it, but here you are with just more bullshit gaslighting.

How many times did right wingers cry THEY'RE WEAPONIZING THE JUSTICE SYSTEM, meanwhile Stephen Miller is over here doing an ILLEGAL mass kidnapping and human trafficking campaign and y'all either shrug your shoulders or cheer it on. Don't worry the brownshirts didn't think they were the bad guys either.

I swear, being a history major is ****ing wild when you see the entire ****ing society fail an open-book test in real time.
You wrote: "I swear, being a history major is ****ing wild when you see the entire ****ing society fail an open-book test in real time."

Anyone who would go to school and major in history has no intention of being able to learn a living.
 
Because Logical Fallacy is easy for even the shallowest thinkers.

Do they have one for the numerous other historic and current totalitarian regimes that used the same tools?

The ones the Founders specifically forbade our government as they were tools used to establish and maintain tyrannies?
 
Do they have one for the numerous other historic and current totalitarian regimes that used the same tools?

The ones the Founders specifically forbade our government as they were tools used to establish and maintain tyrannies?

The fallacy is "Reductio ad Hitlerum" because Hitler is the most often used object for brainless "You know who else made the trains run on time..." arguments. But whether you use Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Kim Jong Il, etc. it's the same fallacy.
 
You wrote: "I swear, being a history major is ****ing wild when you see the entire ****ing society fail an open-book test in real time."

Anyone who would go to school and major in history has no intention of being able to learn a living.
And anyone who fails to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them.

Fascist are super anti education.
The fallacy is "Reductio ad Hitlerum" because Hitler is the most often used object for brainless "You know who else made the trains run on time..." arguments. But whether you use Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Kim Jong Il, etc. it's the same fallacy.
OK, can you explain why the Founders specifically forbade this stuff to our government?

What did the tories call it when they did it? Reducto ad King George?
 
OK, can you explain why the Founders specifically forbade this stuff to our government?

What "stuff"?

What did the tories call it when they did it? Reducto ad King George?

There's been four King Georges... but Reductio ad Hitlerum wasn't a recognized fallacy until 1953, a year after the death of the last King George, so probably not...
 
And anyone who fails to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them.

Fascist are super anti education.

OK, can you explain why the Founders specifically forbade this stuff to our government?

What did the tories call it when they did it? Reducto ad King George?

You wrote: "the Founders specifically forbade this stuff to our government".
To what "stuff" are you referring?
I don't expect our children to pay attention to our nation's history while in grade school.
As a child, I was fascinated by bubble gum cards that fakes news headlines from ancient times. I learned about historical events before I was ten and then learned to clarify my understand when I entered my teens.
My point is, if young people are not interested in history they will have to wait until they are inspired by an event or in a school which makes history interesting to them. That is, if teachers can get them to put down their cell phones long enough to pay attention.
 
Rather than situating fascism on a traditional left-right spectrum, it's more accurate to focus on its core principles that transcend such simple categorizations. At its heart, fascism is characterized by ultranationalism, often rooted in a myth of national decline and a desire for rebirth, leading to an obsessive focus on national unity and purity. This is coupled with authoritarianism, where the state and a charismatic leader are supreme, and individual liberties are subordinate to the perceived needs of the nation. It invariably embraces militarism and the glorification of violence as tools for national expansion and internal control, along with a deep anti-democratic and anti-liberal (traditional liberalism, not political) stance, rejecting pluralism and dissent in favor of a monolithic, unified populace. Finally, it typically involves economic corporatism, where the state heavily directs and integrates private industry for national goals, rather than adhering strictly to either free-market capitalism or state socialism.

Most of that sounds dangerously like the current administration
Lots of those traits have been present across many administrations.
 
It is going to be fun to watch folks start to realize that they've been played.
I wonder how deep into destruction we will have to get before we get to that inflection point for the average MAGA.

Yes, and we're keeping an eye on you to see that happening in real time.
 
Fascists don't fire thousands of government workers, nor do they try to reduce government regulations (they greatly increase them), nor to they ever try to reduce the roll of the state regarding the education of children. Instead, they centralize power, expand bureaucracy, and impose top-down control over every aspect of life.

Trump definitely has an authoritarian streak, but he is not a fascist.

Pro tip: learn what words mean before using them.

Getting rid of things that actually help people and doubling down on the security apparatus of the state does NOT prove what you say it does.
 
People must really miss the days when American citizens were called "non-essential", were denied the ability to earn a living, told they could not go to church and forced to inject dangerous substances into their bodies.
 
People must really miss the days when American citizens were called "non-essential", were denied the ability to earn a living, told they could not go to church and forced to inject dangerous substances into their bodies.

At least we don't have to do without the forever bitching... we'll always have a little piece of covid to enjoy. :rolleyes:
 
Is slapping up a Wikipedia link your counter to shallow thinking?

No, knowing the logical fallacy that was being used was normal thinking for anyone interested in debating, realizing some people might need a link that would explain the term was thinking ahead.
 
No, knowing the logical fallacy that was being used was normal thinking for anyone interested in debating, realizing some people might need a link that would explain the term was thinking ahead.

How about these guys? Are they guilty of using the same fallacy?

 
How about these guys? Are they guilty of using the same fallacy?


"34 out of 35"

I side with the one scholar.

Also funny that nowhere in that article do any of those scholars say he's a fascist... do you agree with them?

Also, saying that they would impeach a judge isn't authoritarian when the person saying it doesn't assume the power to impeach a judge.

"He said mean things so he's an Authoritarian!!!" is grade school bullshit.

And when you have been targeted by a bogus accusation of being a Russian asset that was built on rumors gathered from Russian assets, it's absolutely justified to deny clearance to anyone involved.

Milley told China that he would give them a heads up in back channels in the US went to war... he deserves more than just losing his clearance. He should be in prison.
 
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