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If Obama is elected again does that means every the GOP has done has been a waste?

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It is no secret that the GOP has had only one priority these last 3 years.

Make Obama a one term president.

They have engaged in obstructionist tactics, earned the moniker "party of no", and pushed America to the edge of financial calamity again and again simply to ensure that Obama does not get anything he might want.

However, the field of presidential candidates that the GOP has to offer has turned out so weak that everything the GOP has worked for seems to be threatened. Their best bet is a progressive conservative who created the template for Obamacare and who flip flops on every issue just so he can get elected. He is spurned by social conservatives because of his religion and despised by at least half of the Tea Party for his voting record, which means that he alienates a good share of the conservative base. No matter how you look at it, the GOP is really counting on Democrats being too disenfranchised by Obama's performance to show up to the polls.

I can't help but wonder what will happen if Obama wins in 2012. Can the GOP continue with the same tactics? Will the party split between the mainstream GOP and the tea party conservatives? Will anything change at all? Will everything they have done up to now be a waste?
 
Re: If Obama is elected again does that means every the GOP has done has been a waste

Not at all. The Republicans have had successes in Congress and of course through government not at the Federal level. Even if Obama is elected again, a failed campaign can produce success by bring new issues to the for front. Heck the Tea Party movement was started as a result of the 2008 elections, and some people consider that to be a huge success. Of course success/failure is a perspective and relative term. If you're asking if a loss in 2012 will make it more difficult for them to win elections? Not at all, I hardly think anything the two parties can do will make them stop winning elections, I mean what else can they do?
 
Re: If Obama is elected again does that means every the GOP has done has been a waste

The best way to beat a thoroughbred is not with a mule; the best way to compete with a team that is much quicker than you is not to quicken the pace of the contest; and, the best way to challenge President Obama is not with another smooth talking politician.
 
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Good article in the Guardian this morning pointing out that since Obama's policies are mainstream Republican, the attempt by the weirdoes to make him appear 'left' means they themselves fall over the cliff of crazy extremism and are almost certain to lose any democratic election.
 
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One would hope that Republicans would come to their senses and start working to help the country rather than working to snub Obama, but memories of the Clinton second term witch hunt suggest otherwise.
 
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Moderator's Warning:
Thread is not about the election. Moved to a better place.
 
Re: If Obama is elected again does that means every the GOP has done has been a waste

CriticalThought said:
It is no secret that the GOP has had only one priority these last 3 years.

Make Obama a one term president.

They have engaged in obstructionist tactics, earned the moniker "party of no", and pushed America to the edge of financial calamity again and again simply to ensure that Obama does not get anything he might want.

However, the field of presidential candidates that the GOP has to offer has turned out so weak that everything the GOP has worked for seems to be threatened. Their best bet is a progressive conservative who created the template for Obamacare and who flip flops on every issue just so he can get elected. He is spurned by social conservatives because of his religion and despised by at least half of the Tea Party for his voting record, which means that he alienates a good share of the conservative base. No matter how you look at it, the GOP is really counting on Democrats being too disenfranchised by Obama's performance to show up to the polls.

I can't help but wonder what will happen if Obama wins in 2012. Can the GOP continue with the same tactics? Will the party split between the mainstream GOP and the tea party conservatives? Will anything change at all? Will everything they have done up to now be a waste?
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The GOP should not exist in and of itself. It shows how spiteful and misfocused they are when they dedicate 99.99% of their focus to bring down Obama, and along the way, forget exactly what they represent. It's like, "get Obama out. now what?"....this Do-Nothing group of tea-baggers can't even produce a candidate that isn't laughed off stage.

1. Romney - a hybrid political-chameleon who changes political positions weekly
2. Gingrich - a super-aristocratic beurocratic elitist who charges $60K per speech and doesn't have the slightest clue what to do for the people
2. Paul - a closet racist fossil who still thinks if he becomes President, he'll need to adorn a big white wig with curls
 
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Penderyn said:
Good article in the Guardian this morning pointing out that since Obama's policies are mainstream Republican, the attempt by the weirdoes to make him appear 'left' means they themselves fall over the cliff of crazy extremism and are almost certain to lose any democratic election.
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yeh I read that on my phone! Very interesting take on it andf one that would not be to popular in the GOP lol
 
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AdamT said:
One would hope that Republicans would come to their senses and start working to help the country rather than working to snub Obama, but memories of the Clinton second term witch hunt suggest otherwise.
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Working against Obama is working for the country.
 
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apdst said:
Working against Obama is working for the country.
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You left out a bunch of important words to make your statement a true and valid one.

Working against PRESIDENT Obama is working for A MINORITY OF AMERICANS WHO BELIEVE the country EXISTS TO BENEFIT THEM AND ONLY THEM AT THE EXPENSE OF THE GREATER NUMBERS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

Now that is much much better.
 
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apdst said:
Working against Obama is working for the country.
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No - your notion of the country, surely - that of a pretty unbalanced minority, as far as the rest of the world can make out.
 
Re: If Obama is elected again does that means every the GOP has done has been a waste

If the GOP had put together a better group of candidates then yes. However, given the group we have, no not really.
 
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soccerboy22 said:
If the GOP had put together a better group of candidates then yes. However, given the group we have, no not really.
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Completely agree. The GOP is currently in a 'tweener cycle with all the big shots on the dock for 2016 - Christie, Rubio, McDonnell, etc.

I cant imagine a worse field ever again.
 
Re: If Obama is elected again does that means every the GOP has done has been a waste

Ironically, it appears that Republican voters are about to gift wrap an election victory and a second term for Obama.

Some Republicans foolishly want to nominate Santorum. Santorum is viewed as a religious nut. He could never win a general election.

Some Republicans foolishly want to nominate Ron Paul. Ron Paul is unelectable since one of his goals is to legalize heroin and cocaine.

Some Republicans foolishly want to nominate Romney. Mitt Romney is a liberal. If Romney is the GOP nominee, true conservatives will stay home on election day next November.
 
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