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If Immigrants Terrify You, Then Here's 3 Simple Facts To Calm Your Frightened Brain

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The debate over immigration reform can be pretty heated, with too many hateful and hurtful comments to count. But why? Can't we just approach the issue logically? Robert Reich is here to help us do just that.

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Pretty everything we have learned about immigration is pretty much just a bunch of BS. Immigration doesnt hurt the "governments" social services, it also helps grow the economy, and they are also needed to help create a strong and better economy.
 
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Video @: If Immigrants Terrify You, Then Here's 3 Simple Facts To Calm Your Frightened Brain

Pretty everything we have learned about immigration is pretty much just a bunch of BS. Immigration doesnt hurt the "governments" social services, it also helps grow the economy, and they are also needed to help create a strong and better economy. [/FONT][/COLOR]

Regulated, legal immigration based upon the needs of the country, yes.

Unregulated, illegal, mass immigration, no. That mostly causes problems.
 
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There must be some reason Mexico has landmines on its southern border. What could it be?
 
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There must be some reason Mexico has landmines on its southern border. What could it be?

Damned groundhogs. I swear - they're crafty, hard to kill. :D
 
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Video @: If Immigrants Terrify You, Then Here's 3 Simple Facts To Calm Your Frightened Brain

Pretty everything we have learned about immigration is pretty much just a bunch of BS. Immigration doesnt hurt the "governments" social services, it also helps grow the economy, and they are also needed to help create a strong and better economy. [/FONT][/COLOR]

That video was from the AFL/CIO :2rofll:

That guy with the blood shot eyes from smoking the bud is Robert Reich :joke:

They forgot to edit out below the screen > ORIGINAL: By MoveOn with Robert Reich. < :lamo
 
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That video was from the AFL/CIO :2rofll:

That guy with the blood shot eyes from smoking the bud is Robert Reich :joke:

They forgot to edit out below the screen > ORIGINAL: By MoveOn with Robert Reich. < :lamo

Could you criticize the content rather than the person please?
 
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Could you criticize the content rather than the person please?

Robert Reich lost all credibility back in 1990.

Move-On is a free fire zone.
 
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Robert Reich lost all credibility back in 1990.

Move-On is a free fire zone.

How did he lose credibility? What do you mean "free dire zone?"
 
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How did he lose credibility? What do you mean "free dire zone?"

Robert Reich lost credibility with I and millions of other Americans. You got to go back 22 years ago when his agenda for the anti military left was to cancel the B-2 bomber. The arguments he made were so stupid. The guy doesn't know jack crap about how an airplane stays in the air.
He's comparable to Rep. Hank Johnson who in Congress said if we put to many Marines on Guam Island that Guam would "tip over."

Reich is a for hire political hack for the radical left.

Would I hire him to keep my books, yes and that's about it.

MoveOn.org is a free fire zone meaning there are no rules of engagement on going after Move-On. Just one of the many propaganda websites of George Soros.
 
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Robert Reich lost credibility with I and millions of other Americans. You got to go back 22 years ago when his agenda for the anti military left was to cancel the B-2 bomber. The arguments he made were so stupid. The guy doesn't know jack crap about how an airplane stays in the air.
He's comparable to Rep. Hank Johnson who in Congress said if we put to many Marines on Guam Island that Guam would "tip over."

Reich is a for hire political hack for the radical left.

Would I hire him to keep my books, yes and that's about it.

MoveOn.org is a free fire zone meaning there are no rules of engagement on going after Move-On. Just one of the many propaganda websites of George Soros.

Thanks.
 
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Reich is a for hire political hack for the radical left.

That's funny, because I want nothing to do with that liberal piece of trash.
 
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Video @: If Immigrants Terrify You, Then Here's 3 Simple Facts To Calm Your Frightened Brain

Pretty everything we have learned about immigration is pretty much just a bunch of BS. Immigration doesnt hurt the "governments" social services, it also helps grow the economy, and they are also needed to help create a strong and better economy. [/FONT][/COLOR]

Of course immigration is good. Almost every American I know originates from somewhere out there. It would be a good idea to reduce the amount of social aid. That way nobody could feel, new population was stealing from the immigrants of yesteryear.
 
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Given the tenuous history of the American/Mexican border, it's unlikely that this issue will ever be resolved to certain people's satisfaction. People are just going to have to accept that illegals will always be coming in, unless they are prepared to squander billions on a wall to guard that will just bleed more money than the original problem.

Our immigration system in general needs serious reform. It currently has no rhyme or reason and it's all based on the whims of whatever politician is in power and wants to get the immigrant vote. First of all, migrant workers are doing the jobs that most Americans would never want to do, and for dirt cheap. And regardless if we crack down on immigration or not, companies are going to find a way to make these cheap workers happen because it protects their bottom line. The executives know it, the politicians know it. This is reflected in the puny fines that businesses have been given for being caught. The highest fine to date is $7 million. That's nothing. The immigration issue became a prime focus during the Bush years when the Iraq war was going badly. When Americans took the media bait, the politicians made patch remedies. Propaganda cycle complete. The truth is that politicians right and left don't give a toss about illegals, not really.

Second of all, legal immigration is ridiculous. Our employment strategy for landed professionals is mostly a joke - better than some of our allies, but still a joke. There should not be foreign MDs or PhDs driving taxis or working at fast food places. We have skilled immigrants all around us who can't get re-certified because our government institutions want to preserve all the privilege for Americans while simultaneously extorting foreign labor. All the while, Americans are getting shafted by service costs because the demand for services outstrips the professionals who provide them. Immigrants could solve that, but the fat cats want to keep the supply ceiling low so that we all pay more for increasingly ****ty services.

Our immigration system is all about preserving privilege. That's it.
 
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Of course immigration is good. Almost every American I know originates from somewhere out there. It would be a good idea to reduce the amount of social aid. That way nobody could feel, new population was stealing from the immigrants of yesteryear.

Legal immigration based upon the country's needs. Not illegal immigration and mass immigration. that is mostly detrimental.
 
Re: If Immigrants Terrify You, Then Here's 3 Simple Facts To Calm Your Frightened Bra

Given the tenuous history of the American/Mexican border, it's unlikely that this issue will ever be resolved to certain people's satisfaction. People are just going to have to accept that illegals will always be coming in, unless they are prepared to squander billions on a wall to guard that will just bleed more money than the original problem.

Our immigration system in general needs serious reform. It currently has no rhyme or reason and it's all based on the whims of whatever politician is in power and wants to get the immigrant vote. First of all, migrant workers are doing the jobs that most Americans would never want to do, and for dirt cheap. And regardless if we crack down on immigration or not, companies are going to find a way to make these cheap workers happen because it protects their bottom line. The executives know it, the politicians know it. This is reflected in the puny fines that businesses have been given for being caught. The highest fine to date is $7 million. That's nothing. The immigration issue became a prime focus during the Bush years when the Iraq war was going badly. When Americans took the media bait, the politicians made patch remedies. Propaganda cycle complete. The truth is that politicians right and left don't give a toss about illegals, not really.

Second of all, legal immigration is ridiculous. Our employment strategy for landed professionals is mostly a joke - better than some of our allies, but still a joke. There should not be foreign MDs or PhDs driving taxis or working at fast food places. We have skilled immigrants all around us who can't get re-certified because our government institutions want to preserve all the privilege for Americans while simultaneously extorting foreign labor. All the while, Americans are getting shafted by service costs because the demand for services outstrips the professionals who provide them. Immigrants could solve that, but the fat cats want to keep the supply ceiling low so that we all pay more for increasingly ****ty services.

Our immigration system is all about preserving privilege. That's it.

Do you live in a border state?
 
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Legal immigration based upon the country's needs. Not illegal immigration and mass immigration. that is mostly detrimental.

In layman terms, immigration policies should be what's best for America, not what's best for the immigrant or one particular political party.
 
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when 90 foreign criminals get arrested for being foreign criminals. (Yamato engines)

I apply for the job.

They get work permits.

They replace me AGIAN and 89 other US CITIZENS AGAIN in USA Jobs.

YES we have plenty to fear and so do all foreign criminal lovers becasue you just got a WAR on your hands!

There is no settlement between US CITIZENS and supporters of foreign crimnals. Its death to them all untill we win.
 
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Legal immigrants with skills and education do not scare me. I support the Stem Act,that gives green cards to foreign students who graduate from our universities. What I oppose is importing millions of low skilled workers who will likely be a burden on our governments. Or granting citizenship to people who knowingly broke the law.
 
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There must be some reason Mexico has landmines on its southern border. What could it be?

To keep illegal American immigrants from flooding their country and taking over their Cartels?
 
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Immigrants don't bother me. There are many different types of immigrants with different skills, backgrounds, and levels of education. The problem is, especially in my state, there are all kinds of incentives NOT to go through the hassle of trying to get citizenship. No matter what you're already going to get a free education, WIC (food program for mothers and kids), health care, and even grants for college. Yes, each of these an illegal can easily qualify for. If I was living in Mexico, I'd probably want to come here too.

And yes, many do pay taxes because they work on stolen or fake social security numbers. But many times they get this money back and more through the programs I just listed. Also, let me tell you about a scheme that is done every year at tax time. Say an illegal mother with 2 US born children is married to an illegal father, or not married or whatever. She then finds a single man with no kids, a US citizenship, and a full time job that is just low enough so he gets a good return on his taxes. He claims the 2 children as dependents and gets a nice big "refund" that far exceeds the total taxes he paid out of his checks. The money is divided however they feel is fair and they both profit from this easy scheme.

Deporting every immigrant who is taking more then they're putting in will only shrink the problem, not fix it. Government programs encourage failure and hurt the economy,with or without the presence of illegals. Our policies often invite the wrong people in and they just grow the problem. Forget a fence, take away the incentives.
 
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Why can't liberals be honest enough to identify illegal aliens as "illegal aliens"? Why must they refer to them as "immigrants", "undocumented workers", etc?

(don't bother answering, liberals...these are rhetorical questions. I know why you are not honest enough to use proper terminology...your agenda will be harmed if you do.)
 
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Why can't liberals be honest enough to identify illegal aliens as "illegal aliens"? Why must they refer to them as "immigrants", "undocumented workers", etc?

(don't bother answering, liberals...these are rhetorical questions. I know why you are not honest enough to use proper terminology...your agenda will be harmed if you do.)

The proper term is Foreign Criminal. Since they are all criminals just standing in USA........and they are FOREIGNERS.

Border sign.jpg

And these are the laws every other nation has......that or apply for a job in Mexico and see what happens...........LMAO
 
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Video @: If Immigrants Terrify You, Then Here's 3 Simple Facts To Calm Your Frightened Brain

Pretty everything we have learned about immigration is pretty much just a bunch of BS. Immigration doesnt hurt the "governments" social services, it also helps grow the economy, and they are also needed to help create a strong and better economy. [/FONT][/COLOR]

Reich is a idiot and no one is terrified of immigrants. We don't want or need ILLEGAL ALIENS. Not the same as immigrants.
 
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Immigrants don't bother me. There are many different types of immigrants with different skills, backgrounds, and levels of education. The problem is, especially in my state, there are all kinds of incentives NOT to go through the hassle of trying to get citizenship. No matter what you're already going to get a free education, WIC (food program for mothers and kids), health care, and even grants for college. Yes, each of these an illegal can easily qualify for. If I was living in Mexico, I'd probably want to come here too.

And yes, many do pay taxes because they work on stolen or fake social security numbers. But many times they get this money back and more through the programs I just listed. Also, let me tell you about a scheme that is done every year at tax time. Say an illegal mother with 2 US born children is married to an illegal father, or not married or whatever. She then finds a single man with no kids, a US citizenship, and a full time job that is just low enough so he gets a good return on his taxes. He claims the 2 children as dependents and gets a nice big "refund" that far exceeds the total taxes he paid out of his checks. The money is divided however they feel is fair and they both profit from this easy scheme.

Deporting every immigrant who is taking more then they're putting in will only shrink the problem, not fix it. Government programs encourage failure and hurt the economy,with or without the presence of illegals. Our policies often invite the wrong people in and they just grow the problem. Forget a fence, take away the incentives.

It sounds like your lumping immigrants with illegal aliens.

Why would you do that ?
 
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It sounds like your lumping immigrants with illegal aliens.

Why would you do that ?

Illegal aliens are still immigrants. The thread title says "if immigrants terrify you" so that covers legal and illegal immigrants. And I was explaining which part of the immigrant population is no good for our economy. Yes, most of them being illegal.
 
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