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If Biden gets tougher on Russia, will GOP support him or use it to bash him?

Even some dimocrats are begging Xiden to reverse back to Trumps energy policies
 
Razoo said:
If the USA was going to send troops they should have been there before Putin got there now only a massive
group of covert actions to disrupt the Russian flow will do the job.

All allies should participate.
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True. There are a lot of things we could do if willing. I wonder about negotiating with Iran with Russia at the negotiation table. What message does that send Putin? Americans talk a bunch of crap but will not take action. I don't think he cares too much about the sanctions for now, he wants Ukraine and figures the sanctions will not last because Europe needs his oil and gas as does the US under Biden. China has signed on to help support Russia economically so he has a couple of partners.
 
Cardinal said:
Neither. If he does right then they attribute the decision to his “handlers.” They’ve created a perfect bubble that insulates them from ever having to praise him.
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It's like a child who is always in trouble, he cleans his room one time and suddenly he's a angel. No, he just did one thing right out of a 100.
 
Integrityrespec said:
It's like a child who is always in trouble, he cleans his room one time and suddenly he's a angel. No, he just did one thing right out of a 100.
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Oh good, at least you attributed the correct decision to him. You've outperformed your brethren here. Good job. 🍪
 
ataraxia said:
Everyone knows that one of the big problems coming out of the pandemic has been the supply chain issues and rising oil prices. It seemed like those were problems that could’ve been addressed by the end of the year- IF there was not this small problem of Russia‘s invasion of Ukraine.

So now, many Republicans are pressuring Joe Biden to be tougher on Russia and cut off all oil and gas imports. They’re calling him incompetent and demented for not doing so. But the Biden administration has been hesitant to do so because it’s going to mean even higher oil prices. And this risks inflaming an already angry and resentful GOP base. They’re going to call him incompetent and demented for raising oil prices.

So what are some thoughts about how Biden can navigate this catch 22?
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He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't by the republicans.

He may as well do the right thing and cut off all russia imports of oil.

Then watch as the same republicans who demanded that Biden stop all russia oil imports scream about high gasp prices and blame the whole thing on Biden.

If Biden doesn't cut off russian oil, the republicans will attack him, call him weak and continue to blame him for the war in Ukraine that is 100% the responsibility of putin. Biden has been trying to stop the war.
 
Athanasius68 said:
Drill, baby drill.

But that would agitate the presidents' political constituency.
Better to blame his problems on Republicans,
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Drilling won't do much. It takes years for a new well to finally produce oil and get the gas on the market.

Meanwhile, there is something you can do today.

Stop using as much gas.

Buy a hybrid or a fully electric vehicle.

Many electric vehicles get over 300 miles per charge.

They have been on the market for years so if you can't afford a new one, there are many used ones for sale.

Same with hybrids.

You can be driving a vehicle that either uses less gas or uses no gas today.

Or you can keep whining about it.
 
ataraxia said:
Everyone knows that one of the big problems coming out of the pandemic has been the supply chain issues and rising oil prices. It seemed like those were problems that could’ve been addressed by the end of the year- IF there was not this small problem of Russia‘s invasion of Ukraine.

So now, many Republicans are pressuring Joe Biden to be tougher on Russia and cut off all oil and gas imports. They’re calling him incompetent and demented for not doing so. But the Biden administration has been hesitant to do so because it’s going to mean even higher oil prices. And this risks inflaming an already angry and resentful GOP base. They’re going to call him incompetent and demented for raising oil prices.

So what are some thoughts about how Biden can navigate this catch 22?
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Wanting to punish Putin is to be expected but cutting off imports would accomplish the opposite. All it would do is raise the price. Putin would soon find other buyers at the inflated price. It's hard to stomach, but continuing to import oil, at this point, is the wise choice.

There are medium-term solutions, and they all start with China's position, if and when they make it known. Getting buddy-buddy with our despicable OPEC 'friends' might be a wise path. I have no idea what plans Biden has for either China or the Saudis.
 
independentusa said:
THe companies have the permits, but are not drilling because we had a surplus of oil caused by the covid crisis. The drilling companies literally had to give the oil away and they were not going to drill for more when they lost money with each barrel they sold. With OPEC withholding oil to drive up the cost, we will have to wait until drilling begins again in this country and it will as the price they get for their oil climbs.
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Crude is at $115/barrel. Oil producers are in high gear.
 
Jay59 said:
When the truth is found to be lies.
Grace Slick

In this case, the truth is said to be lies, but close enough.
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There is no truth in your remarks. Trump sycophants are blinded to the truth in some insane need to be right about him. You are wrong. Very wrong.
 
They're already simultaneously blaming Biden for raising gas prices and declaring he should embargo Russian oil and gas. There's no "if" here, they're already being hypocrites on this topic. They don't care. They aren't bothered when you call them hypocrites.
 
Deuce said:
They're already simultaneously blaming Biden for raising gas prices and declaring he should embargo Russian oil and gas. There's no "if" here, they're already being hypocrites on this topic. They don't care. They aren't bothered when you call them hypocrites.
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The hypocrites are to be found with those who call for the end of the use of fossil fuels, and then complain about rising fuel prices.
 
Liberal7360 said:
He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't by the republicans.

He may as well do the right thing and cut off all russia imports of oil.

Then watch as the same republicans who demanded that Biden stop all russia oil imports scream about high gasp prices and blame the whole thing on Biden.

If Biden doesn't cut off russian oil, the republicans will attack him, call him weak and continue to blame him for the war in Ukraine that is 100% the responsibility of putin. Biden has been trying to stop the war.
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The criticism is that Biden has boxed himself into a corner where the country is dependent to an extent on Russian oil imports.
Its also that he has supported policies that have boxed western Europe into a position of depending upon energy imports.
 
Callen said:
Permits are not the problem. The companies have stated clearly and openly that increased drilling is NOT in their business plan.

:When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, "The primary objectives we've had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we're producing."
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The problem is that the country has an administration that is hostile to the use of fossil fuels.
 
Greenbeard said:
And approved under the current administration. Just like millions of people sought jobs under the prior administration but actually got them under the current one.
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That is a legal process, not a political one.
Which is why the Biden Admin went to court (and lost) trying to stop drilling permits.
 
ataraxia said:
False. Just because they believe in climate change doesn’t mean that you don’t take actions in the face of short term challenges. A student can believe in regular sleep and yet still pull an all-nighter before an exam. This is war time and some short term measures can be taken to meet the challenge. The Biden administration knows this.

www.politico.com

Biden team asks oil industry for help to tame gas prices

A meeting with the energy industry comes as Biden faces rising inflation pressures.
www.politico.com www.politico.com


www.bloomberg.com

Biden Aide Says Oil Companies Can Up Production If They Want

A White House official said Tuesday that U.S. oil and gas companies should increase production if they want, pushing back against executives who’ve criticized Biden administration energy policies as prices soar.
www.bloomberg.com www.bloomberg.com
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The USA is not at war with anyone.
 
Athanasius68 said:
The hypocrites are to be found with those who call for the end of the use of fossil fuels, and then complain about rising fuel prices.
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The rising oil prices are a result of the pandemic and now a war, not long term efforts to transition to green energy.
 
Callen said:
Putin got what he wanted from Trump without having to resort to these measures. Recognition on the world stage, a disconnect within NATO and the US in political turmoil. Trump was complicit, he improbably just didn't know it. He was too busy thinking Putin's friendship made him look like anything other than a bully sucking up to another bully.
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The prime minister/president/prime minister/president of Russia for the last quarter century or so needed Trump to gain recognition on the world stage?
I don't think so.

BTW-- Trump demanded that NATO countries pay their 2% annual agreement on defense and asked why Germany should be making itself dependent upon Russia for fuel if the objective of NATO was to block Russia.
We now see NATO countries agreeing with Trump on defense spending, and Germany agreeing that it makes little sense to be dependent upon Russia for fuel.
 
Callen said:
Putin got what he wanted from Trump without having to resort to these measures. Recognition on the world stage, a disconnect within NATO and the US in political turmoil. Trump was complicit, he improbably just didn't know it. He was too busy thinking Putin's friendship made him look like anything other than a bully sucking up to another bully.
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Your analysis and conclusions are odd.
 
Greenbeard said:
Trump was impeached for withholding arms from Ukraine as part of an extortion scheme. Ukraine is incredibly lucky that Putin stooge is nowhere near the White House.
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That is not accurate. Trump was impeached because the lying thieves opposed him and lied about him.

In the real world, when Trump was in the White House, Putin was constrained.

Your delusions are what they are, but they are not connected to the real world.
 
ataraxia said:
Don’t kid yourself. Putin was playing Trump like a fiddle. He would not have paid so much money to campaign for him in 2016 if he didn’t think he was fiddle material.
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Why did you amputate a shred of a thought and present it as if it was a whole thought?
 
Athanasius68 said:
The hypocrites are to be found with those who call for the end of the use of fossil fuels, and then complain about rising fuel prices.
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However you want to excuse your own behavior, man.
 
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