If Biden gets tougher on Russia, will GOP support him or use it to bash him?

[Port & Starboard]

bash



that's all they do

You also.


And you know it.

 

[Port & Starboard]

I have low expectations from any GOP decisions, and even less from the Democrats.

 

[code1211]

Only if one views Trump as you do. Thankfully most don't and are as odd as I am.

Trump is a part of reality and I view him in the context of reality.

Never Trumpers, living in a fantasy world contrived by propagandists striving to deceive the weak minded, have been told to see something different.

I'm not saying that Trump is perfect. I'm only saying that he produced good results.

One example is Putin's militarism. I'LL AY IT AGAIN: Putin invaded countries committing murder and mayhem violating international law during the terms of every 21st Century US President EXCEPT TRUMP.

Them's the facts.

 

[redbeer]

Everyone knows that one of the big problems coming out of the pandemic has been the supply chain issues and rising oil prices. It seemed like those were problems that could’ve been addressed by the end of the year- IF there was not this small problem of Russia‘s invasion of Ukraine.

So now, many Republicans are pressuring Joe Biden to be tougher on Russia and cut off all oil and gas imports. They’re calling him incompetent and demented for not doing so. But the Biden administration has been hesitant to do so because it’s going to mean even higher oil prices. And this risks inflaming an already angry and resentful GOP base. They’re going to call him incompetent and demented for raising oil prices.

So what are some thoughts about how Biden can navigate this catch 22?

The "catch 22" is of his and their own doing.....all they have to do is open it up here in the states....drill baby drill. Release regulations and rules imposed since taking office and put America to work. Plus, who cares what others think on this issue......simple common sense and honor SHOUTS out loud to stop buying oil from Russia, while they are attacking Ukraine....for goodness sakes.

 

[ataraxia]

The "catch 22" is of his and their own doing.....all they have to do is open it up here in the states....drill baby drill. Release regulations and rules imposed since taking office and put America to work. Plus, who cares what others think on this issue......simple common sense and honor SHOUTS out loud to stop buying oil from Russia, while they are attacking Ukraine....for goodness sakes.

Already done. So clearly that’s not the problem. The problem only seems to be right wing propaganda against a war-time president.

New Data: Biden’s First Year Drilling Permitting Stomps Trump’s By 34%

Center for Biological Diversity: Thousands of Permits OK’d Despite President’s Authority to End Drilling by 2035

biologicaldiversity.org

 

[Hypothetical]

Everyone knows that one of the big problems coming out of the pandemic has been the supply chain issues and rising oil prices. It seemed like those were problems that could’ve been addressed by the end of the year- IF there was not this small problem of Russia‘s invasion of Ukraine.

So now, many Republicans are pressuring Joe Biden to be tougher on Russia and cut off all oil and gas imports. They’re calling him incompetent and demented for not doing so. But the Biden administration has been hesitant to do so because it’s going to mean even higher oil prices. And this risks inflaming an already angry and resentful GOP base. They’re going to call him incompetent and demented for raising oil prices.

So what are some thoughts about how Biden can navigate this catch 22?

do what great presidents have done... do what is right, regardless.

history will judge him either way.

 

[Callen]

I think Biden is already there in his head but he is working with his European allies to move in lockstep. America banning Russian oil wouldn't do much. Everyone needs to do it.

 

[redbeer]

Already done. So clearly that’s not the problem. The problem only seems to be right wing propaganda against a war-time president.

New Data: Biden’s First Year Drilling Permitting Stomps Trump’s By 34%

Center for Biological Diversity: Thousands of Permits OK’d Despite President’s Authority to End Drilling by 2035

biologicaldiversity.org

That's deceitful to state and show this, while at the same time saying nothing about the burdensome regulations the Biden administration is imposing on the drilling of gas and oil in the USA. The green energy fight against many good paying jobs in the states is shameful, all in the name of their new god. Drilling permits under burdensome regulation means nothing compared to deregulated drilling permits, which provides companies to actually test and drill for a profit.

Biden's EPA set to run small Texas oil refinery out of business with big gov't regulations — even as energy prices skyrocket over Russia conflict | Blaze Media

The Environmental Protection Agency under President Joe Biden is set to abruptly issue a sweeping denial of economic hardship exemptions to the Renewable Fuel Standard (RFS) program from small oil refineries around the U.S., likely forcing one Texas refinery to go out of business at a time when...

www.theblaze.com

Alaska ready to increase oil, gas production if Biden admin allows: Gov. Dunleavy

Alaska Governor Mike Dunleavy said that his state is ready to increase oil and gas production amid the Russian invasion of Ukraine if the Biden administration allows.

www.foxbusiness.com

Biden Moves to Wreck U.S. Oil Industry | National Review

New EPA methane-emission regulations will strangle domestic oil production, enrich our adversaries, and damage the global environment.

www.nationalreview.com

 

[Callen]

That's deceitful to state and show this, while at the same time saying nothing about the burdensome regulations the Biden administration is imposing on the drilling of gas and oil in the USA. The green energy fight against many good paying jobs in the states is shameful, all in the name of their new god. Drilling permits under burdensome regulation means nothing compared to deregulated drilling permits, which provides companies to actually test and drill for a profit.

Oil companies are not drilling because production expansion is not their focus in 2022. They have stated publicly that increased rate of return for their investors is their prime focus. You can try as hard as you want to pin it on Biden but you are factually incorrect. Unless of course you think he should use use the DPA to force them to expand drilling. Perhaps they will change their focus if their shareholders tell them they want increased production but until they change their business model production is going to stay where it is.

 

[Credence]

Everyone knows that one of the big problems coming out of the pandemic has been the supply chain issues and rising oil prices. It seemed like those were problems that could’ve been addressed by the end of the year- IF there was not this small problem of Russia‘s invasion of Ukraine.

So now, many Republicans are pressuring Joe Biden to be tougher on Russia and cut off all oil and gas imports. They’re calling him incompetent and demented for not doing so. But the Biden administration has been hesitant to do so because it’s going to mean even higher oil prices. And this risks inflaming an already angry and resentful GOP base. They’re going to call him incompetent and demented for raising oil prices.

So what are some thoughts about how Biden can navigate this catch 22?

They are going to bash him no matter what. Like you said they are already blaming him for the issues that the pandemic caused; and are already blaming him for the higher gas / oil prices and it will get worse as we near the mid-term primaries. Wish I had the answer to your question; but it certainly is a catch 22

To add: GOP will bash Biden and his admin yet have no ideas themselves.

 

[redbeer]

Oil companies are not drilling because production expansion is not their focus in 2022. They have stated publicly that increased rate of return for their investors is their prime focus. You can try as hard as you want to pin it on Biden but you are factually incorrect. Unless of course you think he should use use the DPA to force them to expand drilling. Perhaps they will change their focus if their shareholders tell them they want increased production but until they change their business model production is going to stay where it is.

Regulation, regulation, regulation destroys their profits.....they are in it to make money, not lose or do it for free. Can't wait to see all these EV's sitting in peoples driveways collecting dust because there's not enough electricity to charge them....in the meantime China is laughing all the way to the bank.....gee, tks Joe.

 

[Callen]

Regulation, regulation, regulation destroys their profits.....they are in it to make money, not lose or do it for free. Can't wait to see all these EV's sitting in peoples driveways collecting dust because there's not enough electricity to charge them....in the meantime China is laughing all the way to the bank.....gee, tks Joe.

No, repeat it as often as you want. They are using their cash to buy back stock. You can repeat your mantra as many times as you feel the need to but I'm listening to what they are actually saying.


"When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, "The primary objectives we've had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we're producing."

Why Colorado drillers are unlikely to pump more oil amid Russia-Ukraine crisis | Colorado Newsline

As Republicans make "drill, baby, drill" demands, large oil companies in Colorado and beyond are holding back on new production.

coloradonewsline.com

 

[Mr Person]

Everyone knows that one of the big problems coming out of the pandemic has been the supply chain issues and rising oil prices. It seemed like those were problems that could’ve been addressed by the end of the year- IF there was not this small problem of Russia‘s invasion of Ukraine.

So now, many Republicans are pressuring Joe Biden to be tougher on Russia and cut off all oil and gas imports. They’re calling him incompetent and demented for not doing so. But the Biden administration has been hesitant to do so because it’s going to mean even higher oil prices. And this risks inflaming an already angry and resentful GOP base. They’re going to call him incompetent and demented for raising oil prices.

So what are some thoughts about how Biden can navigate this catch 22?

The quisling base has already openly embraced full-on Putinism such as this Trumpist's thread blaming the invasion on the US and NATO:

US/NATO Provoked Ukraine War Say Most Experts On Russia

debatepolitics.com

 

[Mr Person]

Oil companies are not drilling because production expansion is not their focus in 2022. They have stated publicly that increased rate of return for their investors is their prime focus. You can try as hard as you want to pin it on Biden but you are factually incorrect. Unless of course you think he should use use the DPA to force them to expand drilling. Perhaps they will change their focus if their shareholders tell them they want increased production but until they change their business model production is going to stay where it is.

Regulation, regulation, regulation destroys their profits.....they are in it to make money, not lose or do it for free. Can't wait to see all these EV's sitting in peoples driveways collecting dust because there's not enough electricity to charge them....in the meantime China is laughing all the way to the bank.....gee, tks Joe.

Oil companies' profits have been destroyed by regulation, have they?

Oil major TotalEnergies swings to profit thanks to surging commodity prices

The oil and gas giant said full-year 2021 net profit came in at $18.1 billion. That compared with a profit of $4.1 billion the previous year.

www.cnbc.com

Oh, redbeer lied again. Record profits. And the only exception was during lockdown-heavy periods when people weren't traveling.




I swear, redbeer says the dumbest shit imaginable, and does it with a special kind of fervency; as if he thinks a claim gets stronger as it veers more idiotic.

 

[redbeer]

No, repeat it as often as you want. They are using their cash to buy back stock. You can repeat your mantra as many times as you feel the need to but I'm listening to what they are actually saying.


"When asked about production targets for 2022 during a January earnings call, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods responded, "The primary objectives we've had in looking at the portfolio is less about volume and volume targets and more about the quality and profitability of the barrels that we're producing."

Why Colorado drillers are unlikely to pump more oil amid Russia-Ukraine crisis | Colorado Newsline

As Republicans make "drill, baby, drill" demands, large oil companies in Colorado and beyond are holding back on new production.

coloradonewsline.com

Of course, that's the goal to any business.....regulation hurts profits, bottom line. Oil and gas companies buy up leases all the time, test drill to see if it's going to be profitable. Many of them are too hard to drill or to get the oil to market, making it not profitable to drill and will let the lease run out. Under this administration investors are very reluctant to put too much money into an already volatile investment....there are always thousands of leases not being drilled.

 

[sanman]

 

[redbeer]

Oil companies' profits have been destroyed by regulation, have they?

Oil major TotalEnergies swings to profit thanks to surging commodity prices

The oil and gas giant said full-year 2021 net profit came in at $18.1 billion. That compared with a profit of $4.1 billion the previous year.

www.cnbc.com

Oh, redbeer lied again. Record profits. And the only exception was during lockdown-heavy periods when people weren't traveling.




I swear, redbeer says the dumbest shit imaginable, and does it with a special kind of fervency; as if he thinks a claim gets stronger as it veers more idiotic.

So pray tell us, why is Psaki going on about 9,000 leases not being drilled, if they made such profit....as if it's an excuse to not lift the regulations the Biden administration has implemented? There's always many leases which go undrilled, it's part of the business.

Before Biden, driving through west Texas was a sight to see....in the middle of nowhere for hundreds of miles there were oilfield workers. They had lots set up for the workers to set up their trailers, food was included in the rent, for there was nothing around for miles and miles. Now, it's all gone, dried up, out of work.....that's what I see.

 

[Callen]

Of course, that's the goal to any business.....regulation hurts profits, bottom line. Oil and gas companies buy up leases all the time, test drill to see if it's going to be profitable. Many of them are too hard to drill or to get the oil to market, making it not profitable to drill and will let the lease run out. Under this administration investors are very reluctant to put too much money into an already volatile investment....there are always thousands of leases not being drilled.

K.....but that is not why they aren't increasing production

 

[redbeer]

K.....but that is not why they aren't increasing production

Because investors are not putting money into it under Bidens administration....and why should they?

 

[watsup]

Lots of right winger Repubs are complaining that Biden is still allowing Russian oil into the US. When he stops it, they will complain that it is causing high gas prices. They watch FOX way too much.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Everyone knows that one of the big problems coming out of the pandemic has been the supply chain issues and rising oil prices. It seemed like those were problems that could’ve been addressed by the end of the year- IF there was not this small problem of Russia‘s invasion of Ukraine.

So now, many Republicans are pressuring Joe Biden to be tougher on Russia and cut off all oil and gas imports. They’re calling him incompetent and demented for not doing so. But the Biden administration has been hesitant to do so because it’s going to mean even higher oil prices. And this risks inflaming an already angry and resentful GOP base. They’re going to call him incompetent and demented for raising oil prices.

So what are some thoughts about how Biden can navigate this catch 22?

BASH BASH BASH BASH BASH.

 

[SonOfDaedalus]

That is not accurate. Trump was impeached because the lying thieves opposed him and lied about him.

In the real world, when Trump was in the White House, Putin was constrained.

Your delusions are what they are, but they are not connected to the real world.

Let's talk about the real world:

1. Was Trump's campaign manager, Paul Manafort the same guy who worked to elect Kremlin-backed Viktor Yanukovych in Ukraine?

2. Did Trump ask that Russia be allowed back to the G8?

3. Did Trump claim that the DNC servers were hacked not by Russia but by Ukraine which was a Russian talking point?

Again endorsing the efforts by his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, to seek out corruption in Ukraine involving the 2016 elections, President Donald Trump on Wednesday again pressed a conspiracy theory that a DNC computer server hacked by Russia somehow is now in the hands of a company in Ukraine.

"The server - they say - is held by a company whose primary ownership individual is from Ukraine," the President told reporters in the Oval Office.

Trump again presses debunked theory that hacked DNC server is in Ukraine

Again endorsing the efforts by his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, to seek out corruption in Ukraine involving the 2016 elections, President Donald Trump on Wednesday again pressed a conspiracy theory that a DNC computer server hacked by Russia somehow is now in the hands of a company in Ukraine.

www.daytondailynews.com

That's reality.

 

[SonOfDaedalus]

Everyone knows that one of the big problems coming out of the pandemic has been the supply chain issues and rising oil prices. It seemed like those were problems that could’ve been addressed by the end of the year- IF there was not this small problem of Russia‘s invasion of Ukraine.

So now, many Republicans are pressuring Joe Biden to be tougher on Russia and cut off all oil and gas imports. They’re calling him incompetent and demented for not doing so. But the Biden administration has been hesitant to do so because it’s going to mean even higher oil prices. And this risks inflaming an already angry and resentful GOP base. They’re going to call him incompetent and demented for raising oil prices.

So what are some thoughts about how Biden can navigate this catch 22?

I don't think Biden has been reluctant to cut off Russian oil imports because of higher gas prices. I think they want to have some room to threaten even more sanctions. They don't want to spend all their sanctions now. I also think they want to do this in coordination with allies so it can have a bigger impact. I fully expect Russian oil to be banned like Iran and Venezuela.

I don't think most Americans will blame Biden for the high oil prices resulting from a war in Ukraine. I also think Saudi Arabia will help increase supply given how we saved their butts from Saddam when he pulled a Putin on them.

 

[code1211]

The "catch 22" is of his and their own doing.....all they have to do is open it up here in the states....drill baby drill. Release regulations and rules imposed since taking office and put America to work. Plus, who cares what others think on this issue......simple common sense and honor SHOUTS out loud to stop buying oil from Russia, while they are attacking Ukraine....for goodness sakes.

Why are so many rationalizing the stupidity of rationing oil produced from US sources?

 

[code1211]

Let's talk about the real world:

1. Was Trump's campaign manager, Paul Manafort the same guy who worked to elect Kremlin-backed Viktor Yanukovych in Ukraine?

2. Did Trump ask that Russia be allowed back to the G8?

3. Did Trump claim that the DNC servers were hacked not by Russia but by Ukraine which was a Russian talking point?

Trump again presses debunked theory that hacked DNC server is in Ukraine

Again endorsing the efforts by his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, to seek out corruption in Ukraine involving the 2016 elections, President Donald Trump on Wednesday again pressed a conspiracy theory that a DNC computer server hacked by Russia somehow is now in the hands of a company in Ukraine.

www.daytondailynews.com

That's reality.

Again: When Trump was in the White House, Putin was constrained. Period. End of message. Hard stop.

Before and after Trump was in the White House, Putin conducted invasions against sovereign countries in defiance of every other 21st Century President. Again: Period. End of message. Hard stop.

Your deflections are what they are, but they do not change the reality of the situation(s).