I think we've found Elon Musk's political problem. He's deluded. To the point of insanity.

[CLAX1911]

IMO, they should focus on making things better for the average worker, explain the health care issue better, and, at the very least, pass some sort of voting rights act so that the Republicans can't make it impossible for them to win. They aren't good at prioritizing issues.

They passed the voting rights act in 1964.

Passing duplicate laws wouldn't really do anything.

 

[Craig234]

If by some miracle we hold the House and boost our majority in the Senate we WILL be able to get a lot done.

I don't think Democrats make this nearly clear enough to the country. Everything is "Democrats couldn't get it done they suck" because voters only elected 98% of the Democrats to pass bills.

 

[multivita-man]

Elon musk owns Twitter.

That's right fill the cup

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I don't think Democrats make this nearly clear enough to the country. Everything is "Democrats couldn't get it done they suck" because voters only elected 98% of the Democrats to pass bills.

big Big BIG BIG BIG BIG YES.

 

[HangLow]

They can't pass shit unless and until they break the 50-50 which is actually 52-48 because Manchin & Sinema can be counted on to vote against
literally EVERYTHING Kochs don't like, and Koch despises the notion of voting rights.
This first two year term has felt like being a racehorse that never gets let out of the gate no matter how many time it hears the bell ring.
If by some miracle we hold the House and boost our majority in the Senate we WILL be able to get a lot done.

​

 

[braindrain]

You're wrong. The right is moving farther right. They end up thinking that moderates are extreme left because they're so far to the right.

Pretending that the left has not also moved further to the left is simply denying reality.

 

[CLAX1911]

Attachments

Yeah a man died that's so funny..

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

View attachment 67388388​

Every bit that self-serving.
That famous PBS video from Schoolhouse Rock is a distant fuzzy memory because there's no way even a single congressional bill has been introduced that way in well over forty years. Today legislation arrives gavel ready from think tanks and lobby groups along with pointed suggestions as to how failure to vote for such bills might impact the careers of the recipients.

 

[multivita-man]

Yeah a man died that's so funny..

Dead guy spread misinformation that killed a lot of other people, that's so funny. The idiot president who organized the ****ing rally killed him, and maybe others, by pretending he had a virus under control when everyone knew he didn't. That's so funny.

I've got the world's smallest violin for ya.

 

[trouble13]

Did you have a problem with it before Musk?

Musk was a hero a month ago for providing Ukraine access to his starlink internet service. Now they call him a racist and a fascist for suggesting that he is going to change Twitters platform to be more inclusive.

 

[Deuce]

Pretending that the left has not also moved further to the left is simply denying reality.

Have they? In what area has the left become so "radical," in your opinion?

 

[PoS]

For you, that's anyone to the left of Ghengis Khan. Everyone's a commie as far as you're concerned.

Lying again. Point out a single quote I made in which I called someone a commie.

Every post you make is an utter falsehood.

How so?

- leftists favor censoring freedom of speech
- lefties demanding absolute obedience to their authority figures
- lefties are openly bigoted against conservatives
- leftists demand that educators have more power than parents over their own children
- leftists demand slavish adherence to half-baked, unproven theories and pseudoscience like climate change and CRT

I could go on, but its obvious already

 

[KevinKohler]

I noticed you ignored my last paragraph:

"If "b" or "c" represents your beliefs, could you list the issues that conservatives held in 2008 that have radically shifted farther right today? If you do so, I will gladly do the same in support of mine and Musk's position by listing the things that the left supports today that they didn't back in 2008."​

Can you list the positions/values held by conservatives today, that they didn't hold back in 2008 that show this shift farther right? That is the true measure of whether a party has shifted or not.


In response to the things you listed, one is nonsense and the others are the result of false political rhetoric.

First, your Disney example is nonsense. Florida didn't punish Disney, they revoked the special privileges the state afforded them, and did so for good reason. Disney not only openly expressed their opposition to certain laws of the state (that the residents of the state broadly support), they expressed how they have and will take actions to undermine those policies and laws. Disney broke the long held rule that you don't bite the hand that feeds you, and because they did, lost the special tax breaks that the state of Florida was giving them.

Disney is not being treated unfairly nor are they being punished by the state of Florida. They are now going to be treated just like every other company in the state and will have to pay their taxes just like everyone else, therefore your argument is nonsense.

The rest of what you listed is hyped up leftist bullshit. It's manufactured race-card/identity politic crap, along with hyped up rhetoric about a protest that got out of hand that has been publicly condemned by every republican in DC, and nearly every conservative in America. The same can't be said about the democrats and progressives when it comes to the dozens of deaths and multi billions in damages caused by months and months of non-stop looting and rioting by BLM and ANTIFA in cities all across America. The left embraced that violence and to this day refuses to condemn it, while the only 2 events that you people can come up with, were both publicly condemned immediately after taking place by those on the right. The right opposed and condemned political violence back in 2008, just as they still do today.

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DeSantis own words state the reason...a punishment for not bowing to the FL anti lgbq agenda. His own words, dude.

And everything you post is all right bulshit. It's manufactured victimhood, and downplaying an attempted insurrection, as of the moment one of those oath keeper leaders PLEAD GUILTY to conspiracy to commit sedition.

 

[Josie]

I think most of the people here on the left who are upset about this Elon Musk Twitter takeover don’t even know why they’re upset because they don’t really know that much about Twitter. They are just upset because their media is telling them they should be upset about it.

 

[Jezcoe]

I think if the Democrat party should abandon woke stuff

Which Democrats are promoting “woke”?

I can think of like maybe four.

On a national political level there is no “woke” contingent. This shows how well the Right Wing Propaganda works

 

[Josie]

Which Democrats are promoting “woke”?

I can think of like maybe four.

On a national political level there is no “woke” contingent. This shows how well the Right Wing Propaganda works

What do you think "woke" is?

 

[Jezcoe]

What do you think "woke" is?

It is an ever shifting definition.

 

[Hypothetical]

You are racing away from sanity to the right, and think that it's the left moving to the left. That's delusional.

List me ten Democratic officials - that shouldn't be hard for "many" - who call themselves socialist. Hint: Bernie has explained he is not a socialist.

There have always been limits from responsible people on free speech. List your *specific* cases you object to. Then put a sticker on your forehead saying "hypocrite" for supporting the party burning books and outlawing acknowledging the existence of gay or transgender people as much as they can.

Of course you think Musk is right, since you have drunk the same kool-aid, are in the same propaganda bubble.

the race to the right is definitely the illusion.

 

[Josie]

It is an ever shifting definition.

You seemed to have a pretty concrete one since you say there is no "woke" contingent. What did you mean by that?

 

[Jezcoe]

You seemed to have a pretty concrete one since you say there is no "woke" contingent. What did you mean by that?

That what is considered to be “woke”…. Which is an ever shifting thing… is not pushed by the Democrats.

They can’t abandon the “woke” because as a party they don’t operate that way.

 

[Josie]

That what is considered to be “woke”…. Which is an ever shifting thing… is not pushed by the Democrats.

They can’t abandon the “woke” because as a party they don’t operate that way.

What is considered "woke"?

 

[Jezcoe]

What is considered "woke"?

I believe that the definition of “woke” is whatever people want it to be.

A narrow definition would be social justice….. but that isn’t really a thing in the national democrats wheelhouse.

 

[Josie]

I believe that the definition of “woke” is whatever people want it to be.

A narrow definition would be social justice….. but that isn’t really a thing in the national democrats wheelhouse.

Wait....... you think Democrats aren't promoting all of the "social justice" stuff? Where have you been the last 10 years?

 

[j brown's body]

Musk was a hero a month ago for providing Ukraine access to his starlink internet service. Now they call him a racist and a fascist for suggesting that he is going to change Twitters platform to be more inclusive.

He was no hero. They simply purchased his product.

 

[j brown's body]

Wait....... you think Democrats aren't promoting all of the "social justice" stuff? Where have you been the last 10 years?

Is that bad?