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How often to do weights?

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Hey.

Ive just been getting into building more upper body strength over the last wee while.
Just a few sets of press ups, bicep curls and various other excercises I dont really know the names for but that people have shown me.
Im wokring out almost everyday.

But im just curious, because ive ehard various schools of thought on the matter.


What advice do people have on how they space their workouts out so as to achieve maximal gain?

p.s. can u try and tell me why, and what qualifies ur opinion as one I should trust.
 
What kind of gains are you looking to achieve? Endurance, strength, muscle growth, cutting fat? Because there are different answers for each one of those.
 
Yeah, one day on, one day off. Or do upper body one day, lower body the next day, etc. The muscles need the recovery time, especially if you're lifting 80% of max or more.
 
Lifting weight is one of the silliest things I've ever encountered, I've thought so for many years. When I want exercise, I just go find some work to do. Yard work is a prime example.
 
Go get Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe and all your questions will be answered.
 
Lifting weight is one of the silliest things I've ever encountered, I've thought so for many years. When I want exercise, I just go find some work to do. Yard work is a prime example.

I think it depends on what you do for a job. If you are a logger, hitting the gym is unnecessary, if not overdoing it. If you are an accountant, hitting the gym is beneficial.
 
Whole lot of variables in that question; at my age the body takes longer to recoup from a prolonged session. Genetics has a role in it as well; also some peoples recuperative powers are better than others.

What am doing now is strength train twice a week, mostly compound moves, squats, dead lifts, benches,etc. (with dumbbells)that usually goes on for about eight, to twelve weeks, before I try something different.

The body always tries to find the most effective/efficient way of moving the weight(you have to fool it). Sooo… you keep changing up or you will hit a plateau. All of this is combined with three cardio sessions per week, of at least thirty minutes

My next routine will be a three times per week 5x5. Here’s a pretty good place if you’re serious. Just plug your numbers into the wiki.


5x 5 | IronOnline Health and Fitness Database
 
What kind of gains are you looking to achieve? Endurance, strength, muscle growth, cutting fat? Because there are different answers for each one of those.

Strength and muscle growth. I get my cardio from indoor soccer, altho I could do with quite a bit more. Fat is a non issue/burning to much fat would probably be detrimental from an ideal perspective.
But im limited by space and set up (lounge, its winter, and if I have to go anywhere else to excercise it will stop hapening).
 
Lifting weight is one of the silliest things I've ever encountered, I've thought so for many years. When I want exercise, I just go find some work to do. Yard work is a prime example.

I genrally agree. And never shy away from the chance to do some physical work. But its winter, im a student, and I was sick of being weak. And I also want to do some martial arts training, and want to be stronger when I start. As my flexability, reactions and coordination are already high. It will make learning much more efficient.

Also, push ups are quite an effective excercise. It isnt taking em long to do 100 push ups or more in a day. And I havnt been going very long at all. Theres nor eason I cant also do physical labor as and when the opertunity arises.
 
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So if im doing one day on, do I go all out, make myself hurt, then give a day to recover?
Or do I try and avoid 'overdoing it', cause tis just gona make me less able to peform next time I lift?
 
eh and as fun as it is talking about how much excercise your nto doing guys (really, I chuckled), We're aiming for a conversation here. And jokes getting played out.
 
So if im doing one day on, do I go all out, make myself hurt, then give a day to recover?
Or do I try and avoid 'overdoing it', cause tis just gona make me less able to peform next time I lift?

When you first start it is going hurt the next day. If you are shooting for endurance low weight with more reps if you are shooting for mass higher weight.
 
I recently stopped lifting, I get all my strenght training, and anerobic workout through Brazlillian Jiu-Jitsu. :thumbs:




If you want to get "big" you need to lift big heavy weight.
 
I recently stopped lifting, I get all my strenght training, and anerobic workout through Brazlillian Jiu-Jitsu. :thumbs:

Incidentally, this is my step 2.


May I ask. How "higher" weight are press ups considered as weight?
 
Lifting weight is one of the silliest things I've ever encountered, I've thought so for many years. When I want exercise, I just go find some work to do. Yard work is a prime example.
As long as everyone understands you'll never defend them and expect no one to defend you, no problem.
 
This topic is around the central focus and addiction of my life until marriage. But here's what probably is appropriate for you with appropriate warnings.

For what you're likely doing, every other day because you're not doing much. If you are trying to build muscle mass and sculpturing, you have to rip them. Can you endure pain? If so, every 3rd day. Do your other cardio and whatever in between. If you're going for max muscle mass you have to really tear 'em, likely your only good for that once a week, but back to light stuff ever other day in between so you don't stiffen up. You have to work your way up that for at least months or you'll tear and pull things you don't want to and healing is very long to never.

Watch your back. Easily injured. Particularly at first as you lack the muscles and will tend to then try to use your back.

Set your goals realistically low. A steady pattern is better than on and off.

Don't think weight training makes you tough in a fighting sense. It ain't junior high school out there, there are no refs, unless stick thin or WWF muscularly you have no clue who is tough. Even if the other guy isn't tough, you probably don't have a serious hurt someone instinct. Others do. So you throw a haymaker at his face and he tries to jab you in the eyes and throat. Most fights are decided in the first blow or end up wrestling on the floor for any but the very best. It only takes one blow to permanently hurt you or incapacitate you. Once you go down the other person can do exactly anything to you for as long as they want. Don't expect anyone to come to your aid. Even friends.

Point? Until you've been in the ring and hit about everywhere a few hundred times at least and in more than a few real fights - adult, not juvenile, you certainly can't be a tough fighter with any self predictability and if you go looking for trouble you'll find it. A better conflict tactic for you is run-away. No boasting or insulting here. Maybe pointless to you. But I've seen a lot of guys get a little tough and then very hurt.

Keeping in shape, putting on a little muscle, body building and sculpturing, mega body building and building fighter ability all are very different and each one requires a higher degree of self inflicted pain and then also pain inflicted by others. It is both a knowledge and pain ladder. Unless it becomes an addiction compulsion you won't go very high up it or for very long.

Keep it real. Make your muscles burn a little every two or three days and consider that more than most do or you will. You'll feel better about yourself if you do. But leave it at that. There is trouble for most people beyond that because the middle ground of toughest is the most dangerous. Better to accept the merits of avoiding and if necessary making a run for it. Seriously. Good luck to you.
 
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If you haven't lifted in a while, going every other day is a bad idea.

I lifted 2 days ago for the first time in a while and had trouble lifting my arms to put on my suit today.
 
This topic is around the central focus and addiction of my life until marriage. But here's what probably is appropriate for you with appropriate warnings.

For what you're likely doing, every other day because you're not doing much. If you are trying to build muscle mass and sculpturing, you have to rip them. Can you endure pain? If so, every 3rd day. Do your other cardio and whatever in between. If you're going for max muscle mass you have to really tear 'em, likely your only good for that once a week, but back to light stuff ever other day in between so you don't stiffen up. You have to work your way up that for at least months or you'll tear and pull things you don't want to and healing is very long to never.

Watch your back. Easily injured. Particularly at first as you lack the muscles and will tend to then try to use your back.

Set your goals realistically low. A steady pattern is better than on and off.

Don't think weight training makes you tough in a fighting sense. It ain't junior high school out there, there are no refs, unless stick thin or WWF muscularly you have no clue who is tough. Even if the other guy isn't tough, you probably don't have a serious hurt someone instinct. Others do. So you throw a haymaker at his face and he tries to jab you in the eyes and throat. Most fights are decided in the first blow or end up wrestling on the floor for any but the very best. It only takes one blow to permanently hurt you or incapacitate you. Once you go down the other person can do exactly anything to you for as long as they want. Don't expect anyone to come to your aid. Even friends.

Point? Until you've been in the ring and hit about everywhere a few hundred times at least and in more than a few real fights - adult, not juvenile, you certainly can't be a tough fighter with any self predictability and if you go looking for trouble you'll find it. A better conflict tactic for you is run-away. No boasting or insulting here. Maybe pointless to you. But I've seen a lot of guys get a little tough and then very hurt.

Keeping in shape, putting on a little muscle, body building and sculpturing, mega body building and building fighter ability all are very different and each one requires a higher degree of self inflicted pain and then also pain inflicted by others. It is both a knowledge and pain ladder. Unless it becomes an addiction compulsion you won't go very high up it or for very long.

Keep it real. Make your muscles burn a little every two or three days and consider that more than most do or you will. You'll feel better about yourself if you do. But leave it at that. There is trouble for most people beyond that because the middle ground of toughest is the most dangerous. Better to accept the merits of avoiding and if necessary making a run for it. Seriously. Good luck to you.

Hey I really apreciate the post mate.
The aprt about not getting huge without getting adicted and letting ti ****w ith ur life.
And the bit about getting a little tough then a lot hurt.

Theyre both really vlaid I think.

But dont worry about me bro. I dont feel threatened, and im not on a tough guy trip. Im 25, I dont get in fights. I just got sick of my arms feeling so weak. :).

Good post tho mate. Apreciate it.
 
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