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Since you admire Republicans, you should vote Republican.
I don't get people like you who want lots of freedom and yet don't want to pay for any of it.
Yes, they do. But it seems they get a good bang for their buck...
Taxes run approximately 48% of wages in total.
But... they get good healthcare from cradle to grave. Their system is publicly financed but adminstration is decentralized. And their healthcare is ranked among the highest in the world. Total costs run about 9% of GDP and have been stable since the '80's. The maximum cost to any citizen per year is just $380(USD), entirely as small co-pays for individual services.
Also under the healthcare program is a disability benefit that pays a significant percentage of your regular earnings indefinately from the 2nd day of illness/injury.
And... they get free higher education, too, if they want it. Bachelors, Masters, Doctorate. Paid for out of those taxes.
Retirement benefits are also included and average over $2500/month (USD).
Frankly, that's not too shabby...
I see little point in voting or even having an election if it's Obama v. Romney, which I expect it will be. Vote whoever. As far as we're all concerned they're the same person.
Like high taxes? You mean the kind we enacted to pay for WWII?
I don't get people like you who want lots of freedom and yet don't want to pay for any of it.
Fyi: Check out the test scores from Sweden. Wowzers. They make our kids look dumb....which considering the average intelligence here is TRUE!
the only people who have high taxes in America are those in those in the top few percent (not including those in the very top of the one percent)
the only people who have high taxes in America are those in those in the top few percent (not including those in the very top of the one percent)
Which, compared to most modern countries, is actually a low tax rate.
The people with the highest overall tax burden are towards the lower end of the spectrum.
obama is just the least of all evils among the mainstream (media-backed) pols, because of who's sponsoring him. obama isn't owned by any oil firms whereas perry and cain are.
Freedom is not something you purchase with high taxes. Bush and Co. used this "freedom isn't free" argument as a desperate attempt to justify the wars to the public. Is this really the type of argument you want to adopt.
the only people who have high taxes in America are those in those in the top few percent (not including those in the very top of the one percent)
Uh that's a complete lie and you know it
Actually effective marginal tax rates on everyone in the US are low compared to first world standards and historical US standards.
Not really in terms of total taxes levied on their net income.
Your problem in this discussion, is the same as always. You only account for income taxes when there are far more taxes than just income.
remind me what the historical standards were from say 1790 through 1929 or so
This is America
I tire of people saying we ought to be a cradle to grave welfare socialist state like most of europe
and in Europe the group that say makes 30% of the income tends to pay 30% of the taxes. IN the USA the group that make 22% of the income pays almost 40% of the taxes
when gasoline taxes, excise taxes on firearms and Ammo (TTB, a bureau of the treasury has a site where you can find this), etc become an issue in elections let me know. and most of people like me deal with death taxes sooner or later-stuff that is never counted in our overall effective federal tax rate
that the government now treats FICA which was a mandatory contribution, noot a tax, when enacted is the main tax the middle class and somewhat por pay
state taxes are irrelevant in this discussion though
and in Europe the group that say makes 30% of the income tends to pay 30% of the taxes. IN the USA the group that make 22% of the income pays almost 40% of the taxes
If you are going to resort to history you cannot pick and choose
and you know as well as I do that much of the government expansion that started with the New Deal was based on rather bogus constitutional machinations by FDR and his court
If a poor person doesn't like state taxes he should move--that of course was the original beauty of a United STATES
and that is why I oppose the left's desire to make the federal government responsible for the stuff the states should handle. If Ohio becomes a massive welfare state I can move to KY. When the federal government does all that crap we cannot escape it
Its not a monkey wrench because its not being used for the same buy the votes scheme
I reject the from each according to their ability nonsense that the left claims is basically the only proper inquiry for taxes
and none of them ever deal with the fact that those who aren't paying any income tax are far more likely to support raising rates on those who do
if every hike in the income tax rates were imposed on everyone equally meaning if income tax rates went up 2% they go up two percent for every citizen, I bet we wouldn't have near the bloated government we have today
Personally, I think third parties are for people who don't want to be responsible for the election outcome.
Far from being the being the lesser of two evils, I believe Obama will be recognized as one of the most significant presidents of the twenty-first century, indeed in all of American history. In part, this is due to the perfect storm of national unmet challenges he inherited from his predecessor, but, also he has demonstrated keen political insight and leadership in getting things done. Obama has been a measured, meticulous leader both in domestic policies and foreign initiatives.
America has always been lucky in leadership when it really needed it. Washington. Lincoln. Obama is the latest example. There's room for one more on Rushmore. I think we know who, now.
Personally, I think third parties are for people who don't want to be responsible for the election outcome.
Far from being the being the lesser of two evils, I believe Obama will be recognized as one of the most significant presidents of the twenty-first century, indeed in all of American history. In part, this is due to the perfect storm of national unmet challenges he inherited from his predecessor, but, also he has demonstrated keen political insight and leadership in getting things done. Obama has been a measured, meticulous leader both in domestic policies and foreign initiatives.
America has always been lucky in leadership when it really needed it. Washington. Lincoln. Obama is the latest example. There's room for one more on Rushmore. I think we know who, now.
I would agree with that if there was a strong movement that would ensure the 3rd party candidate had a fair shot. However, I'm really not willing to risk a Republican in office - I don't think most Democrats are.
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