Honolulu Senior Elections Clerk Says Barack Obama was Not Born in Hawaii

[KTBarefoot]

No. A dead President who thought selling apples was a good career move. :2razz:

Hey, as President he was a first-class mining engineer.

 

[Objective Voice]

the **** denoted a curse word.

Would it make more sense to you like this?

For the record, I was having a bit of grammatically incorrect fun by leaving "are" out of the sentence. I do not require the services of a grammar nazi.

Then perhaps you should seek the services of an English teacher. LOL

Absolute proof that Obama was born overseas will never happen. Likewise, absolute proof that Obama was born in Hawaii will never happen. Reality is that neither of us will ever know "absolutely" where the little fella was born.

But the fact is that Obama by all indications does have a valid birth certificate from Hawaii. So his "natural born citizenship" requirement is therefore fulfilled.

Which doesn't/shouldn't preclude us from having academic discussion on plausible possible scenarios.

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I'd have no problem discussing the issue again IF it hadn't been discussed to death in atleast four other threads. But hey...whatever floats your boat!

 

[jujuman13]

What some high ended lawyer ought to do is sue the Federal Government in regards to the Healthcare bill that was passed, claiming that it would be invalid and void because Obama has yet to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he is in fact a U.S. citizen. If he is not a U.S. citizen then all laws and bills that Obama signed would be null and void. This would perhaps force this administration and Obama to prove that he is a U.S. citizen by producing his birth certificate, the original that is.

Such would be produced, whether just printed who knows?

I have always believed that
1) He was not born in the US
2) He is Muslim by choice.

 

[Deuce]

Such would be produced, whether just printed who knows?

I have always believed that
1) He was not born in the US
2) He is Muslim by choice.

He has a birth certificate proving his birth in Hawaii on August 4, 1961. This record is valid and certified by the state of Hawaii. It is proof in a court of law that Barack Hussein Obama II is a natural born citizen of the United States of America.

Everyone clamors for the "original" certificate, but it likely no longer exists. Hawaii, like most states, digitized those documents years ago. If you were a resident of the state of Hawaii and went to the county office asking for the official record of your birth, they'd give something exactly like this:



Your belief is incorrect. It is also racist.

Edit: Or possibly ignorant, as some people truly haven't been exposed to this information. Those are the only two options. Racist or ignorant.

"Certification of live birth" is what you want. Because the alternative is a certification of not-live birth.

Yes, I "pulled the race card." If any of the previous 43 presidents had presented you with a document like this, you would have accepted it without question. Except this time it's a brown man with a funny name. You've been given evidence that is proof in a court of law, and yet people doubt it. Corroborating evidence is a birth announcement in a local paper, and yet people still doubt it. Because it's a brown man with a funny name, and a (D) next to his name, of course.

 

[somepeoplesay]

He has a birth certificate proving his birth in Hawaii on August 4, 1961. This record is valid and certified by the state of Hawaii. It is proof in a court of law that Barack Hussein Obama II is a natural born citizen of the United States of America.

Everyone clamors for the "original" certificate, but it likely no longer exists. Hawaii, like most states, digitized those documents years ago. If you were a resident of the state of Hawaii and went to the county office asking for the official record of your birth, they'd give something exactly like this:



Your belief is incorrect. It is also racist.

Edit: Or possibly ignorant, as some people truly haven't been exposed to this information. Those are the only two options. Racist or ignorant.

"Certification of live birth" is what you want. Because the alternative is a certification of not-live birth.

Yes, I "pulled the race card." If any of the previous 43 presidents had presented you with a document like this, you would have accepted it without question. Except this time it's a brown man with a funny name. You've been given evidence that is proof in a court of law, and yet people doubt it. Corroborating evidence is a birth announcement in a local paper, and yet people still doubt it. Because it's a brown man with a funny name, and a (D) next to his name, of course.

Don't you know? The Obama's were secretly grooming Barack to be POTUS before he was even born. Thats why they smuggled him into America, paid off doctors to make this phony BC, and paid off two newspapers to announce the birth. It was almost too easy, until those snoops in the tea party got wind of it!

 

[Groucho]

That's always the funniest thing about conspiracy theorists -- their explanation, when boiled down, requires so many ridiculous things to accept in order to get to the end they want.

 

[Your Star]

He has a birth certificate proving his birth in Hawaii on August 4, 1961. This record is valid and certified by the state of Hawaii. It is proof in a court of law that Barack Hussein Obama II is a natural born citizen of the United States of America.

Everyone clamors for the "original" certificate, but it likely no longer exists. Hawaii, like most states, digitized those documents years ago. If you were a resident of the state of Hawaii and went to the county office asking for the official record of your birth, they'd give something exactly like this:



Your belief is incorrect. It is also racist.

Edit: Or possibly ignorant, as some people truly haven't been exposed to this information. Those are the only two options. Racist or ignorant.

"Certification of live birth" is what you want. Because the alternative is a certification of not-live birth.

Yes, I "pulled the race card." If any of the previous 43 presidents had presented you with a document like this, you would have accepted it without question. Except this time it's a brown man with a funny name. You've been given evidence that is proof in a court of law, and yet people doubt it. Corroborating evidence is a birth announcement in a local paper, and yet people still doubt it. Because it's a brown man with a funny name, and a (D) next to his name, of course.

There you go people. Proof that everyone who believes this stupid conspiracy is wrong. Now can we please get over it, this is starting to get as bad as the 9/11 truther crowd.

 

[obvious Child]

That's always the funniest thing about conspiracy theorists -- their explanation, when boiled down, requires so many ridiculous things to accept in order to get to the end they want.

So they're like creationists then?

 

[Groucho]

So they're like creationists then?

Yep, very similar, and I'd bet there's some overlap between the two groups!