Homicidal Liberal Out On Bail

[Roadvirus]

https://nypost.com › 2022 › 09 › 21 › shannon-brandt-free-after-admitting-he-mowed-down-republican-teen
Shannon Brandt free after admitting he mowed down 'Republican' teen
4 days ago Shannon Brandt, 41, spent just days in a Stutsman County Jail on criminal charges related to the death of 18-year-old Cayler Ellingson before he posted his $50,000 and was released, according to ...

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Well, he only killed a conservative. I guess that doesn't count for much in these days of our bifurcated criminal justice system.
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I read somewhere where this murderer has a history of drunken "incidents" according to his neighbors.

 

[Roadvirus]

MAGA is an attitude. A bigoted, uneducated, nationalist attitude. Basically a nazi attitude. Policy hasn't changed in 50 years. That's why I can separate Trumpers from Republicans. Republicans are same old policy, and Trumpers are nazis.

And all that is justification for committing vehicular homicide?

 

[ecofarm]

And all that is justification for committing vehicular homicide?

I was answering someone's generalized question and my post was not regarding the incident. See the quote above my post.

 

[ecofarm]

Sounds pretty squirmy. Why then can't Republican leaders condemn the Jan 6 riots or Trump's efforts to steal an election?

Cheney has.

 

[eohrnberger]

I read somewhere where this murderer has a history of drunken "incidents" according to his neighbors.

So in other words he shouldn't have been out on his own recognizant in the first place?

 

[daeler]

The murderer's own claim that he killed his victim for being a Republican is hardly the fodder of conspiracies. Would you have people believe that some insidious Rightie forged the court documents attesting to the claim? And why would anyone make such a claim? You don't have to believe he was inspired by Joe Biden's speech-- that would be conspiracy fodder-- but no one makes such a confession unless he thinks it will be to his advantage to do so. Even crazy people have methods to their madness.

The conspiracy theory is that the story is being suppressed.... I think you really misread my post.

 

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I read somewhere where this murderer has a history of drunken "incidents" according to his neighbors.

Welp, that would appear to be the case. The kid was definitely hard maga.

https://twitter.com/SeniorBoobies

Whaddya mean, "was" ?

Ellingson, Cayler - Evans Funeral Homes​

https://www.evansfuneralhomend.com › Projects
"Ellen Nowatzki and family. on September 19, 2022 at 8:25 pm. Dear Ellingson family, we are lifting you up in prayer, sending love, strength, ..."

 

[Ouroboros]

Whaddya mean, "was" ?

Ellingson, Cayler - Evans Funeral Homes​

https://www.evansfuneralhomend.com › Projects
"Ellen Nowatzki and family. on September 19, 2022 at 8:25 pm. Dear Ellingson family, we are lifting you up in prayer, sending love, strength, ..."

What is your point in citing tweets from people after Ellingson’s death? Is he instructing followers from beyond the grave?

What about his tweets or retweets says “Maga” to you? Are you capable of discerning a difference between conservatives and Maga enthusiasts? If so, couldn’t any conservative be irked by that dumbass remark by Sunny Hostin, that Latinos shouldn’t be Republicans?

 

[post]

What is your point in citing tweets from people after Ellingson’s death? Is he instructing followers from beyond the grave?

What about his tweets or retweets says “Maga” to you? Are you capable of discerning a difference between conservatives and Maga enthusiasts? If so, couldn’t any conservative be irked by that dumbass remark by Sunny Hostin, that Latinos shouldn’t be Republicans?

Even people close to the victim mock RWE meme, "It's Biden's fault," or the post September 19 tweets would be taken down, or....?

MAGA is G.O.P.

NBC News
Poll: 61% of Republicans still believe Biden didn’t win fair and square in 2020
Twenty-nine percent of all respondents, as well as 61% of Republicans, say that Biden won due to voter fraud. That's compared with 63% of all...
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21 hours ago

 

[Ouroboros]

Even people close to the victim mock RWE meme, "It's Biden's fault," or the post September 19 tweets would be taken down, or....?

MAGA is G.O.P.

NBC News
Poll: 61% of Republicans still believe Biden didn’t win fair and square in 2020
Twenty-nine percent of all respondents, as well as 61% of Republicans, say that Biden won due to voter fraud. That's compared with 63% of all...
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21 hours ago

Not surprised you couldn’t answer the first question. You did answer the second question, which is good as saying that all Mad Libs are dumb enough to credence anything that a Lib like Hostin says, no matter how fatuous.

 

[post]

Not surprised you couldn’t answer the first question. You did answer the second question, which is good as saying that all Mad Libs are dumb enough to credence anything that a Lib like Hostin says, no matter how fatuous.

I don't expect you're equipped for discussion considering alleged merits for hispanic support for an 86 percent white party, worth attempting.

‘A Real Chilling Effect’: A Lefty Scholar is Dumping CAP — For AEI

Ruy Teixeira predicted Obama’s rise. Now he’s scorning DC’s liberal think tanks for caring more about diversity than class.

www.politico.com

July 15, 2022
"How Teixeira came to be talking about the essentiality of class politics while sitting a few feet from a stack of books by Lynne Cheney says a great deal about the state of the American left, where the 70-year-old researcher felt alienated — and about the American right, where a once-dominant think tank that fell afoul of Trump die-hards has brought him aboard..."


"..
SIMON: We've heard some Democrats say that crime is a trumped-up issue - and that pun is intended - meant to discredit Democratic leadership in New York, Chicago, San Francisco.

TEIXEIRA: Well, that's an example of something I call the Fox News fallacy, which is the idea that if something is reported on and pushed by the conservatives at Fox News, it must be essentially sort of a made-up story. But I think what we found is Democrats are very much in the hole, in terms of the view of voters, on who can best handle crime. They don't see the Democrats calling for putting violent criminals in jail; though they're willing to talk about, you know, let's get guns off the street and so on. But they're balking on what I would call the sweet spot of a progressive position on crime, which should be tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime. That was Tony Blair's famous phrase...
...The people I know live in neighborhoods, right? So there's this whole, you know, sort of rhetorical lexicon that the left of the Democratic Party has become obsessed with and insists on using, which basically just alienates normie voters, including normie nonwhite voters. I mean, we have people in and around the Democratic Party talking about how all white people have white privilege and how this is a white supremacist society and so on. And I just don't think this is the way people think about the world, including, you know, normie nonwhite voters..."

 

[Ouroboros]

I don't expect you're equipped for discussion considering alleged merits for hispanic support for an 86 percent white party, worth attempting.

‘A Real Chilling Effect’: A Lefty Scholar is Dumping CAP — For AEI

Ruy Teixeira predicted Obama’s rise. Now he’s scorning DC’s liberal think tanks for caring more about diversity than class.

www.politico.com

July 15, 2022
"How Teixeira came to be talking about the essentiality of class politics while sitting a few feet from a stack of books by Lynne Cheney says a great deal about the state of the American left, where the 70-year-old researcher felt alienated — and about the American right, where a once-dominant think tank that fell afoul of Trump die-hards has brought him aboard..."


"..
SIMON: We've heard some Democrats say that crime is a trumped-up issue - and that pun is intended - meant to discredit Democratic leadership in New York, Chicago, San Francisco.

TEIXEIRA: Well, that's an example of something I call the Fox News fallacy, which is the idea that if something is reported on and pushed by the conservatives at Fox News, it must be essentially sort of a made-up story. But I think what we found is Democrats are very much in the hole, in terms of the view of voters, on who can best handle crime. They don't see the Democrats calling for putting violent criminals in jail; though they're willing to talk about, you know, let's get guns off the street and so on. But they're balking on what I would call the sweet spot of a progressive position on crime, which should be tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime. That was Tony Blair's famous phrase...
...The people I know live in neighborhoods, right? So there's this whole, you know, sort of rhetorical lexicon that the left of the Democratic Party has become obsessed with and insists on using, which basically just alienates normie voters, including normie nonwhite voters. I mean, we have people in and around the Democratic Party talking about how all white people have white privilege and how this is a white supremacist society and so on. And I just don't think this is the way people think about the world, including, you know, normie nonwhite voters..."

So if the GOP is (supposedly) 86 percent white, then Hispanics should not venture into that territory because-- what? Respect for segregation?

The point is that because Hostin's remark was stupid and self-serving-- as well as presumptuous, for her to assume that she should be able to speak for Hispanics-- anyone with sense ought to be able to take exception to it without being Maga or even conservative. I didn't keep reading other tweets that supposedly "proved" (to Mad Libs) that Ellingson was Maga, but since you're in love with downloads, why don't you print a few of your alleged proofs?

 

[nota bene]

Honestly, it sounds like you're just giving yourself a pep talk to justify doing something bad. Are you planning on hurting anybody?

Way to bait, Cardinal.

 

[Roadvirus]

he point is that because Hostin's remark was stupid and self-serving--

She recently did one stupid level better by taking a shot at Nikki Haley's first name. Something about Haley trying to pass herself off as White or something (which is ironic since...well...just look up "Sunny"'s real name).

 

[Cardinal]

Way to bait, Cardinal.

You just made a post on a debate forum!

 

[Felis Leo]

Is there any indication of either the killer's or the victim's political views? Perhaps he is a card-carrying socialist or Elizabeth Warren progressive who hates all Republicans to the point of murder. Or perhaps he is a Trump supporter and the young man was a moderate Republican who incensed the older man when told him he did not think the 2020 Election was stolen. Are we just assuming that because because the young man was some form of Republican, the killer must be a liberal?

Too many unanswered questions to leap to any conclusion. But a man who would kill someone over an argument should not be walking the streets free.

 

[Deuce]

100% of the time right wingers screech “mainstream media isn’t talking about X,” I can immediately find an article talking about it in every mainstream media source.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Wrong. If Kyle had stayed his ass at home, in the other state where he lived, nobody would have died.

If the child rapist and domestic abuser were home in the other cities in which they lived then nobody would have died

Now all he does is whine because he can’t find a job and no college will accept him.

That sounds like a pretty acceptable grievance considering he did nothing wrong.

He is toxic now, as he should be.

It tells me all I need to know that you support the attempted murder of people you disagree with politically by men who anally rape kids then label victims as “toxic”

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Pfft lame

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Sure they should.

And of course the judge was lily white. Why else would he disallow victims to testify,

Gaige Grosskreutz was allowed to testify, Richard McGinnis was allowed to testify. No effort was made to locate “Jump Kick man” and the prosecution didn’t want him to anyway. There were no alleged “victims” who were barred from testifying

at the same time allowing them to be characterized as rioters, arsonists, and looters?

Because they were rioters, arsonists and looters

The fix was in from the start.

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Pffft

But that’s ok. Rittenhouse’s life is forfeit. All he will have for years is interviews on right wing talk shows. Can’t get a job. Can’t get accepted into school - if he ever even finished high school. Last I’d heard, he hadn’t.

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This is the type of stuff a despicable human being would write.

 

[Superfly]

If the child rapist and domestic abuser were home in the other cities in which they lived then nobody would have died

That sounds like a pretty acceptable grievance considering he did nothing wrong.

It tells me all I need to know that you support the attempted murder of people you disagree with politically by men who anally rape kids then label victims as “toxic”

Pfft lame

Nobody knew the guy he shot was a pedophile until after the fact, so you can stop with that tired narrative.

He could have been a teacher, or a minister, or somebody you know.

 

[Superfly]

Gaige Grosskreutz was allowed to testify, Richard McGinnis was allowed to testify. No effort was made to locate “Jump Kick man” and the prosecution didn’t want him to anyway. There were no alleged “victims” who were barred from testifying

Because they were rioters, arsonists and looters

Pffft

This is the type of stuff a despicable human being would write.

Nah. Rittenhouse didn’t write it.

 

[ecofarm]

Is there any indication of either the killer's or the victim's political views? Perhaps he is a card-carrying socialist or Elizabeth Warren progressive who hates all Republicans to the point of murder. Or perhaps he is a Trump supporter and the young man was a moderate Republican who incensed the older man when told him he did not think the 2020 Election was stolen. Are we just assuming that because because the young man was some form of Republican, the killer must be a liberal?

Too many unanswered questions to leap to any conclusion. But a man who would kill someone over an argument should not be walking the streets free.

Still no info. Only the claims of the murderer labeling the feminine frosted hair braces brown kid an "extremist Republican" (which, as I've argued before, is an oxymoron).

Is there real info? I haven't googled this yet today.

 

[Cardinal]

Still no info. Only the claims of the murderer labeling the feminine frosted hair braces brown kid an "extremist Republican" (which, as I've argued before, is an oxymoron).

Is there real info? I haven't googled this yet today.

Only two facts: the kid is in fact whatever passes for a conservative these days (his twitter feed speaks for itself), and the killer did call the kid an extreme republican.

Don't get into political/religious/sports/Mac-vs.-PC arguments with drunk people is my takeaway.

 

[Ouroboros]

Nobody knew the guy he shot was a pedophile until after the fact, so you can stop with that tired narrative.

He could have been a teacher, or a minister, or somebody you know.

And if a minister had attacked Rittenhouse, in the exact same way the pedophile did, then the minister’s death would have been equally justified.

The only relevance of the pedophile’s nature is that it calls into question as to whether he had altruistic reasons for being there, or if he was looking for trouble. Not specifically of a pedo-nature, you understand. But being an outsider sometimes makes people act badly.

 

[Superfly]

And if a minister had attacked Rittenhouse, in the exact same way the pedophile did, then the minister’s death would have been equally justified.

The only relevance of the pedophile’s nature is that it calls into question as to whether he had altruistic reasons for being there, or if he was looking for trouble. Not specifically of a pedo-nature, you understand. But being an outsider sometimes makes people act badly.

Yes. I agree, Rittenhouse acted very badly.