Sherman123
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I was thinking about this the other day in the context of groups and individuals that advocate for preserving 'family' or 'traditional values' usually in reference to SSM, Transgender rights, Gay Adoption, etc. In our history, and I suppose more broadly in the historical liberal experiment, have 'we' (that is as a society) ever adopted what could be identified as a progressive cultural attitude, whether its racial equality or something like womans suffrage, and then permanently rolled it back or reversed course? Sort of taken a 'nope, we made a mistake' attitude?
I can't really think of one but if anyone else can it would be appreciated. My inclination is to say there isn't one but I could be wrong. The only one that seems remotely plausible hasn't actually happened yet and thats abortion because we don't seem to have coalesced into one position as a society the same way that we have on female suffrage, racial equality, and increasingly on the topic of SSM.
Because if there isn't really any precedent of a rollback I wonder if these groups and individuals sincerely believe there is a chance of 'going back'.
Thoughts?
Excellent point. I can only think of one...Prohibition.
I was thinking about this the other day in the context of groups and individuals that advocate for preserving 'family' or 'traditional values' usually in reference to SSM, Transgender rights, Gay Adoption, etc. In our history, and I suppose more broadly in the historical liberal experiment, have 'we' (that is as a society) ever adopted what could be identified as a progressive cultural attitude, whether its racial equality or something like womans suffrage, and then permanently rolled it back or reversed course? Sort of taken a 'nope, we made a mistake' attitude?
I can't really think of one but if anyone else can it would be appreciated. My inclination is to say there isn't one but I could be wrong. The only one that seems remotely plausible hasn't actually happened yet and thats abortion because we don't seem to have coalesced into one position as a society the same way that we have on female suffrage, racial equality, and increasingly on the topic of SSM.
Because if there isn't really any precedent of a rollback I wonder if these groups and individuals sincerely believe there is a chance of 'going back'.
Thoughts?
I was thinking about this the other day in the context of groups and individuals that advocate for preserving 'family' or 'traditional values' usually in reference to SSM, Transgender rights, Gay Adoption, etc. In our history, and I suppose more broadly in the historical liberal experiment, have 'we' (that is as a society) ever adopted what could be identified as a progressive cultural attitude, whether its racial equality or something like womans suffrage, and then permanently rolled it back or reversed course? Sort of taken a 'nope, we made a mistake' attitude?
I can't really think of one but if anyone else can it would be appreciated. My inclination is to say there isn't one but I could be wrong. The only one that seems remotely plausible hasn't actually happened yet and thats abortion because we don't seem to have coalesced into one position as a society the same way that we have on female suffrage, racial equality, and increasingly on the topic of SSM.
Because if there isn't really any precedent of a rollback I wonder if these groups and individuals sincerely believe there is a chance of 'going back'.
Thoughts?
I was thinking about this the other day in the context of groups and individuals that advocate for preserving 'family' or 'traditional values' usually in reference to SSM, Transgender rights, Gay Adoption, etc. In our history, and I suppose more broadly in the historical liberal experiment, have 'we' (that is as a society) ever adopted what could be identified as a progressive cultural attitude, whether its racial equality or something like womans suffrage, and then permanently rolled it back or reversed course? Sort of taken a 'nope, we made a mistake' attitude?
I can't really think of one but if anyone else can it would be appreciated. My inclination is to say there isn't one but I could be wrong. The only one that seems remotely plausible hasn't actually happened yet and thats abortion because we don't seem to have coalesced into one position as a society the same way that we have on female suffrage, racial equality, and increasingly on the topic of SSM.
Because if there isn't really any precedent of a rollback I wonder if these groups and individuals sincerely believe there is a chance of 'going back'.
Thoughts?
When a culture starts to go liberal, it is on the downward slope. America is dying. Conservatism builds societies, liberalism destroys them. It's only a matter of time.
I was thinking about this the other day in the context of groups and individuals that advocate for preserving 'family' or 'traditional values' usually in reference to SSM, Transgender rights, Gay Adoption, etc. In our history, and I suppose more broadly in the historical liberal experiment, have 'we' (that is as a society) ever adopted what could be identified as a progressive cultural attitude, whether its racial equality or something like womans suffrage, and then permanently rolled it back or reversed course? Sort of taken a 'nope, we made a mistake' attitude?
I can't really think of one but if anyone else can it would be appreciated. My inclination is to say there isn't one but I could be wrong. The only one that seems remotely plausible hasn't actually happened yet and thats abortion because we don't seem to have coalesced into one position as a society the same way that we have on female suffrage, racial equality, and increasingly on the topic of SSM.
Because if there isn't really any precedent of a rollback I wonder if these groups and individuals sincerely believe there is a chance of 'going back'.
Thoughts?
When a culture starts to go liberal, it is on the downward slope. America is dying. Conservatism builds societies, liberalism destroys them. It's only a matter of time.
Excellent point. I can only think of one...Prohibition.
Nope. Progressive-ism is the natural order in the cycle of a nation's life. Allow me to quote Aristotle: "Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democracies give way to tyranny." The 'progressive' hive mind is a feminine hive mind. And having given ourselves almost completely over to militant feminism, we are seeing the end of the masculine republic and the beginning of feminine democracy. Once we're sufficiently feminized, (gender confusion, women in combat, women as heads of households and leaders, men behaving like children much later in life, etc) tyranny takes over as we can no longer defend our borders, our language or our culture.
The best days of the US are behind her and I see at least two new nations in her future. Probably a lot more like Canada and Britain. Passive wallflowers on the world's stage.
no, America is changing, like it has from the 40s, 50s, 60, 70s - present. Perhaps it's not your desired flavor, but America will always be changing.
I think technology is a big influence in change (or at least recent times).
Is it not odd that at age 16 one can drive a 2 ton vehicle capable of very high speed, at age 18 one can (even be compelled to) kill/die for the nation in the military yet one cannot legally buy beer until age 21?
It's changing... in the wrong direction.
That 21 isn't nationwide, is it? At many rte,I'm thinking we're off track.
It's changing... in the wrong direction.
I think i saw somewhere that those under 21 in the military can buy and consume beer on base.
That 21 isn't nationwide, is it? At many rte,I'm thinking we're off track.
just looked it. You're right. 21 nationwide. If I was 20, I'd be pissed.
I think i saw somewhere that those under 21 in the military can buy and consume beer on base.
Off track how? The raising of an age limit is a policy becoming less permissive (progressive?) - is it not?
You can't stop it, the future is a less bigoted place.
like i said, not to your desired flavor.
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