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The Qassam brigades, the military wing of Hamas, announced that they were no longer committed to its de facto ceasefire with Israel in effect since more than two years ago.
"There is no longer any truce with the enemy," said the statement broadcast over a Hamas radio station early on Saturday.
Rockets have been launched from Gaza into Israel and Israeli aircraft have struck targets in the Palestinian territory in the back-and-forth aftermath of deadly attacks a day before in southern Israel.
At least eleven Palestinians have been killed and 30 were injured in the past 24 hours by Israeli air strikes on the Gaza Strip which began on Thursday. Four Israelis have been injured by rockets fired from Gaza.
Video and more at: Hamas armed wing ends truce with Israel - Middle East - Al Jazeera English
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I have a thought, with what is happening in Syria, Lybia, Irans encroachment and meddling, the saudis not happy with us AND Iran, Turkey thinking of getting involved in Syria as a buffer zone, and their actions against the Kurds ..all of that, possible the condemnation of the Israeli's , with the attacks and killings that went on will not be as loud and stringent as it has in the past when the israelis took action in Gaza.
Especially if Hamas starts sending their own rockets over to Israel
and don't forget the Egyptian now in the Sinai supposedly trying to control those terrorist there.
If hamas does continue the attacks , I beleive it will give the Israelis the opportunity to deal with the military wing in a strong way, strong nough that after a shhort time they might change their mind as they lose more and more fighters and more important leadership, I belive the Israeli's will now go after their leadership, I beleive they know who the majority of their leadership is and where most of them can be found.
It will be interesting to see if pressure will be put on Fatah and Abbas and the PA leadership to get involved...while they migh lose some support by Palastinian by siting it out, I think in the long run , it will be to their benefit to sit this out. IMHO of course..you did ask for thoughts, comments .
There is an Arabic word you come across a lot when Palestinians talk about their future. Sumud means steadfastness, and it has turned into a strategy: when the imbalance of power is so pronounced, the most important thing to do is to stay put. Staying put against overwhelming odds is regarded as a victory.”
Hearst didn’t offer any substantial explanation of why Palestinian steadfastness is a victory, so I will.
Perhaps that is what Israel thinks and with papers appearing not to give proper information concerning this - that is that the Gazans appear not responsible for the Eliat killings, hence no reason for Israel to kill in Gaza, you would appear to have a point right now.
The Qassam brigades, the military wing of Hamas, announced that they were no longer committed to its de facto ceasefire with Israel in effect since more than two years ago.
"There is no longer any truce with the enemy," said the statement broadcast over a Hamas radio station early on Saturday.
Rockets have been launched from Gaza into Israel and Israeli aircraft have struck targets in the Palestinian territory in the back-and-forth aftermath of deadly attacks a day before in southern Israel.
At least eleven Palestinians have been killed and 30 were injured in the past 24 hours by Israeli air strikes on the Gaza Strip which began on Thursday. Four Israelis have been injured by rockets fired from Gaza.
Video and more at: Hamas armed wing ends truce with Israel - Middle East - Al Jazeera English
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news flash, Israel is being attacked by rockets at least once a month for the past 10 years. what cease fire are they talking about?
This evening 1 Israeli died, 2 in critical condition and 2 more severly injured in Beer-Sheva. In the morning a rocket which fell in Ashdod injured 2 Israelies severly, in the afternoon another rocket in Ashdod injured 3 Palestinian illegal workers one of them severly injured.
If only i'd have a dollar for every time I read the phrase "harmless rockets" in this forum...
This evening 1 Israeli died, 2 in critical condition and 2 more severly injured in Beer-Sheva. In the morning a rocket which fell in Ashdod injured 2 Israelies severly, in the afternoon another rocket in Ashdod injured 3 Palestinian illegal workers one of them severly injured.
If only i'd have a dollar for every time I read the phrase "harmless rockets" in this forum...
Do they know if they are coming from Hamas or the other groups... if Hamas I would expect heavy concentration of attacks on their people and areas of control..munition supplys and such..Is there talk about possible going into Gaza with land forces..or are they keeping quiet about that..Has anything been happening with Hezbellah in Lebonan o support these attacks..?
The PLC took responsibility on the attack on Beer-Sheva yesterday, I don't know about the attack on Ashdod.
BTW, the barrage on Beer-Sheva included 6 rockets, 3 missed, 2 intercepted by Iron Dome, the last one was missed by the Iron Dome system and had a fatal result.
This development is not surprising. Hamas has always wanted to reserve the freedom to start and end ceasefires. That's why Israel's need to establish and sustain deterrence is so important. Hamas has been and remains an unreliable participant in ceasefires. Almost certainly, the same would hold true under the 10-year ceasefire Hamas offered Israel in exchange for 1967 borders (a bad proposition that Israel rightly never considered). In the end, strong deterrence established and sustained by Israel, not Hamas' ceasefires, offer the best prospect of stability.
never tackles the underlying issues.
Paul
So, how DO you tackle the issue of genocidal antisemitsm and the supremacist mindset that drives it?
Seems to me that this should be up to the Arabs to address.
There will be that continuouse struggle unless the majority of the Palastinians get together and say enough of this BS..we want a peaceful life, a way to build our own State, and if you can't go along with that then be gone from our midst or we will turn on you..go else where to carry on this crazyness..They have addressed it. They will continue on their path until successful. If Israel thinks it will deter these types of attacks by bombing empty tunnels or factories at night they should check to see how that works. Compare what israel does to what America did to Afghanistan and the government in place during 9/11.
This development is not surprising. Hamas has always wanted to reserve the freedom to start and end ceasefires. That's why Israel's need to establish and sustain deterrence is so important. Hamas has been and remains an unreliable participant in ceasefires. Almost certainly, the same would hold true under the 10-year ceasefire Hamas offered Israel in exchange for 1967 borders (a bad proposition that Israel rightly never considered). In the end, strong deterrence established and sustained by Israel, not Hamas' ceasefires, offer the best prospect of stability.
I'm calling BS on this. Hamas has been very reliable and consistent in maintaining ceasefires with Israel even to the point where it actually is a serious complication to their rule over Gaza as they have been forced to engage in battles with armed groups inside their own territory for Israel's benefit. No one has claimed responsibility for the attacks a few days ago and so far the only thing pointing to the PRC is Israel, who can hardly be trusted to tell the truth about something like that. In fact, given the unstable situation in the Sinai peninsula, it makes more sense that these attacks were from some radical Islamist faction operating in the Egyptian Sinai. Yet Israel immediately points the finger at a group in Gaza and starts bombing without much regards to where its bombs are falling leading to the deaths of civilians, including a child last I checked, and Hamas then abandons the ceasefire.
Saying Israel was attacked is no more an excuse for attacking Hamas than September 11 is an excuse for invading Iraq.
Seems your to much of a apologist and the PRC did take credit for the attacks, ..I am sure they have been identified personally, some of the participants, and as far as fighting their own so to speak in Gaza..Hamas, tough.
If they are taking responsibility for rule in Gaza as the controlling political party, with all the benefits that being in control gives them, part of that payoff for that is to have control and not allow dissadent groups going off on their own and conducting atttacks on a party they supposedly they, Hamas, have made a unofficial, but official ceasefire with... what partys in control have to do , their responsibilities of, and one of the problems with Hamas.
Fatah for the most part, not say completly successful , but have basically kept the peace and have stopped and arrersted those from the West Bank who went against those rules and tried to be confrontational against the Israelis.
You don't agree to a negotiated agreement and then when times change , you get a feeling that a change for a while is needed, you break it and expect no repercussuions..now the rockets are falling again, thus the price to be paid is to be collected..
Your post is a post of one who is a supporter of Hamas and will admit no wrong by those who you support ..even when they are wrong. Thus I dismiss your arguments by me and most of fair minded ones I think.
Believe you are in favor of a confrontational position of Hamas toward Israel and probaly are upset when they are not in that mode of operation.
It appears that "the most right wing goverment in the history of Israel" is going to let the incidents of the last days pass without a proper reaction, reports say Israel will lower the amount of attacks to help Hamas enforce a ceasefire. Just lets you show how extreme this goverment is comparing to Kadima who launched 2 wars under the same circumstances.
It appears that "the most right wing goverment in the history of Israel" is going to let the incidents of the last days pass without a proper reaction,
reports say Israel will lower the amount of attacks to help Hamas enforce a ceasefire.
Just lets you show how extreme this goverment is comparing to Kadima who launched 2 wars under the same circumstances.
It appears that "the most right wing goverment in the history of Israel" is going to let the incidents of the last days pass without a proper reaction, reports say Israel will lower the amount of attacks to help Hamas enforce a ceasefire. Just lets you show how extreme this goverment is comparing to Kadima who launched 2 wars under the same circumstances.
So, how DO you tackle the issue of genocidal antisemitsm and the supremacist mindset that drives it?
With precision targeting rather than some incursion into Gaza hoping to eliminate a legitimate target, or two.
.Seems to me that this should be up to the Arabs to address
The Arabs have as much to bring to the table as the Israelis. The constant dualistic dialogue will build few bridges.
Paul
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