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gay promiscuousness

jimmyjack said:
No, I haven't even got on to the point about child slavery; I’m talking about the online child porn industry boom.

Now we see you changing your claim. This is the first time that you've mentioned it being online.

The original post bringing up the child sex industry didn't mention it being online.
 
MrFungus420 said:
Now we see you changing your claim. This is the first time that you've mentioned it being online.

The original post bringing up the child sex industry didn't mention it being online.


Ah, so you agree with me as long as the argument is confined to the parameters of online child porn.

That is exactly the answer I was looking for.
 
jimmyjack said:
Ah, so you agree with me as long as the argument is confined to the parameters of online child porn.

That is exactly the answer I was looking for.

No, I don't think he's agreeing with you. Just noticing like the rest of us how you shadowbox around every sub-issue without staying put to back anything up. It's very frustrating.....
 
jimmyjack said:
MrFungus420 said:
Now we see you changing your claim. This is the first time that you've mentioned it being online.

The original post bringing up the child sex industry didn't mention it being online.
Ah, so you agree with me as long as the argument is confined to the parameters of online child porn.

That is exactly the answer I was looking for.

I pointed out that when your original claim was shown to be untenable, you changed your claim. That is, essentially, an admission that your claim was wrong. Tell me, how can you make the leap that makes my pointing out that you are wrong an admission that you are right?

You claimed that homosexuality is contagious. When it was pointed out that is what you said, you tried to sidetrack by using different definitions of a word without trying to validate your claim.

You claimed that homosexuality is increasing. You supplied a source that had nothing to do with the level of homosexuality, just about an abberant behaviour within the homosexual community.

You claimed that the increase in homosexuality is proportional to the increase in the child sex industry without showing your first premise to be true, and without showing anything that links the two. When you couldn't support this claim, you tried to change your claim.

So far, you have failed to back up anything that you have claimed. You have failed to show anything that even vaguely substantiates your claims.

All that you have offered is unsubstantiated opinion that you have tried to pass off as fact.
 
The reason why nobody is really posting homosexual promiscuity stats is because people who would post such become targets for being censored for their views.

But here's a start (we'll see how long I am tolerated before I am censored for posting scholarly studies homosexuals politicos may not like)

Bell and Weinberg, in their classic study of male and female homosexuality, found that 43 percent of white male homosexuals had sex with 500 or more partners, with 28 percent having one thousand or more sex partners.-.

P. Bell and M. S. Weinberg, Homosexualities: A Study of Diversity Among Men and Women (New York: Simon and Schuster, 1978), pp. 308, 309; See also A. P. Bell, M. S. Weinberg, and S. K. Hammersmith, Sexual Preference (Bloomington: Indiana University Press, 1981).

In their study of the sexual profiles of 2,583 older homosexuals published in the Journal of Sex Research, Paul Van de Ven et al. found that "the modal range for number of sexual partners ever [of homosexuals] was 101-500." In addition, 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent had between 501 and 1,000 partners. A further 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent reported having had more than one thousand lifetime sexual partners.-Paul Van de Ven et al., "A Comparative Demographic and Sexual Profile of Older Homosexually Active Men," Journal of Sex Research 34 (1997): 354.

"The Sexual Organization of The City" (University of Chicago Press)

Sex differences in evaluating heterosexual and homosexual promiscuity.-Froese AD, Rumback KL, Hard LD.,Behavioral Science Department, Sterling College, Kansas 67579.

Maria Xiridou, et al, "The Contribution of Steady and Casual Partnerships to the Incidence of HIV Infection among Homosexual Men in Amsterdam," AIDS 17 (2003): 1031.

A survey conducted by the homosexual magazine Genre found that 24 percent of the respondents said they had had more than one hundred sexual partners in their lifetime. The magazine noted that several respondents suggested including a category of those who had more than one thousand sexual partners.-"Sex Survey Results," Genre (October 1996), quoted in "Survey Finds 40 percent of Gay Men Have Had More Than 40 Sex Partners," Lambda Report, January 1998: 20.

The Social Organization of Sexuality, 216; McWhirter and Mattison, The Male Couple: How Relationships Develop (1984): 252-253; Wiederman, "Extramarital Sex," 170.

According to McWhirter and Mattison, most homosexual men understood sexual relations outside the relationship to be the norm and viewed adopting monogamous standards as an act of oppression.

Now you know why homosexuals want to redefine marriage-they want to tear it apart and make it into whatever they feel like by first destroying it.
 
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Herkilon said:
Now you know why homosexuals want to redefine marriage-they want to tear it apart and make it into whatever they feel like by first destroying it.

I was with you up until this last hysterical, sophistic, and histrionic bullshit statement. Funny how you can take an informative post and then turn it into a meaningless rant with just one statement. Welcome to DP.
 
Well, this is interesting...

Gay Mental Health
In a study of sexual behavior in homosexuals and heterosexuals, the researchers found that of gay and bisexual men, 24% had one male partner in their lifetime, 45% had 2-4 male partners, 13% had 5-9 male partners, and 18% had 10 or more sexual partners, which produces a mean of less than 6 partners... In a parallel study, a random sample of primarily straight men (n=3111 males who had had vaginal intercourse; of the total sample of n=3224 males, only 2.3% had indicated having had sex with both men and women), the mean number of sexual partners was 7.3, with 28.2% having 1-3 partners, and 23.3% having greater than 19 partners (Billy). This data indicates that gay men may have fewer number of sexual partners than heterosexuals...

A third major study, by Laumann, appears on the surface to indicate that gay men do have many more sexual partners than heterosexual men. However, a more extensive analysis of the data gives a more balanced perspective. Laumann fails to explore the radically skewed nature of the data. Typically this indicates that the mean, the statistic presented by Laumann, may not be the best measure to report. A further analysis of the GSS data (on which Laumann based his results) indicates that the median (50th percentile) number of sexual partners for heterosexuals is five and for homosexuals is six (http://www.jeramyt.org/gss/partners.html). The discrepancy between the mean and median is indicative of a small sub-population of gay males who tend towards high rates of sexual partners, skewing the mean, while the majority of gay men tend to have rates about the same as heterosexual males.
 
Those so called "straight men" who indulge in deviant and unsafe practices shall we say gay men or other "str8 men". That has always made me laugh when they(online groups) say Str8 men. Is there such a thing when they indulge in men to men play? NOPE. I don't care if they are married and have a wife, they ARE NOT Str8! In fact she probably doesn't know he plays with other men.

Gay and not promiscuousness in KC
 
imprtnrd said:
Those so called "straight men" who indulge in deviant and unsafe practices shall we say gay men or other "str8 men". That has always made me laugh when they(online groups) say Str8 men. Is there such a thing when they indulge in men to men play? NOPE. I don't care if they are married and have a wife, they ARE NOT Str8! In fact she probably doesn't know he plays with other men.

Gay and not promiscuousness in KC

Wha? :unsure13:
 
Re: homosexual promiscuousness

Looks like anyone who opposes the radical homosexual agenda here gets banned by the homosexual moderators.....and anyone who dares state the apparent is to be immediately bashed.

Whatever that guys screen name is...he was handing their poor debate tactics on a plate back to them, and looks like he was silenced for it.

I think I will spend more time in forum sections where there is a tiny shred of open mindedness and tolerance for those who don't share the extremist views of the radical homosexual agenda.
 
Re: homosexual promiscuousness

IsThatSo! said:
I think I will spend more time in forum sections where there is a tiny shred of open mindedness and tolerance for those who don't share the extremist views of the radical homosexual agenda.
I would suggest you try any conspiracy theory site; you should be at home there.
 
Testosterone fuels the sex drive in both males and females. Since males produce higher levels of testosterone it is easier for a gay male to find a willing male for casual sex than it is for a heterosexual male to find a willing female. But that doesn't make gay men more promiscuous but merely means straight guys go home frustrated more often.

There are lots of gay men that are faithful and/or want a committed relationship just like there are nice straight guys that don't play the field.

Testosterone link
 
Justagurl said:
Testosterone fuels the sex drive in both males and females. Since males produce higher levels of testosterone it is easier for a gay male to find a willing male for casual sex than it is for a heterosexual male to find a willing female. But that doesn't make gay men more promiscuous but merely means straight guys go home frustrated more often.

There are lots of gay men that are faithful and/or want a committed relationship just like there are nice straight guys that don't play the field.

Testosterone link

that has been my own thought on the matter - that more straight men would do the same thing if more women let them get away with it.
 
star2589 said:
that has been my own thought on the matter - that more straight men would do the same thing if more women let them get away with it.

You make it sound like having sex with a man is letting him commit a crime against you. Is this your attitude about sex? I hope not.
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
You make it sound like having sex with a man is letting him commit a crime against you. Is this your attitude about sex? I hope not.

the statement was half sarcastic. no, that's not my attitude towards sex.

however, women are more likely then men to only accept sex with strings (i.e. a relationship) attached. if less women had such requirements, promiscuity amoung straight men would increase.
 
star2589 said:
the statement was half sarcastic. no, that's not my attitude towards sex.

however, women are more likely then men to only accept sex with strings (i.e. a relationship) attached. if less women had such requirements, promiscuity amoung straight men would increase.

Possibly, though not every woman needs to be promiscuous for every man to be.:mrgreen:
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
Possibly, though not every woman needs to be promiscuous for every man to be.:mrgreen:

true, but the fewer women there are, the more competition there is to get them.
 
star2589 said:
true, but the fewer women there are, the more competition there is to get them.

Also true, But you don't have to compete for easy women. You just have to wait your turn.:smoking:
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
Also true, But you don't have to compete for easy women. You just have to wait your turn.:smoking:

and the more waiting you have to do, the fewer partners you are going to report to people collecting data on such things.
 
star2589 said:
and the more waiting you have to do, the fewer partners you are going to report to people collecting data on such things.

It's like movie rentals, everyone gets to see the movie and they don't have to wait too long. How many more women can a man squeeze into one day?:shock:
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
It's like movie rentals, everyone gets to see the movie and they don't have to wait too long. How many more women can a man squeeze into one day?:shock:

ok, now you've lost me...
 
star2589 said:
ok, now you've lost me...

What I am saying is that promiscuous people may have more than one partner in a day. How many more people could they squeeze into one day?
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
What I am saying is that promiscuous people may have more than one partner in a day. How many more people could they squeeze into one day?

ok, think of it this way...

suppose the earth had 10 people living on it. 5 women and 5 men, all straight.

4 of those women will only have sex in the context of a loving relationship. 1 of them will do anybody, but only once per night.

by contrast, 5 of those men are trying to get laid as many times as physically possible by as many women as possible.

these numbers are in no way meant to be proportional, but they illustrate the idea.

the men will each have sex once every 5 days. by contrast if the women were like the men, the men would be having sex with multiple women each night.
 
star2589 said:
alright, we all know the stereotype that gay men engage in much more promiscuous sex than straight men, but where's the data? I tried finding some, but I couldnt find anything from a non-biased source. anyone got anything?


Funny, because from my personal stereotypes, straight men are much more promiscuous. It might just be the gay men I know, though.....


Duke
 
That adds up too, there are more gay men than there are gay women.

My point is totally relevant to the question.

First off...the same tendencies that make men more likely to cheat in a straight relationship is what why gay men tend to be more promiscious. It's hard to be faithful when you can go in the bathroom and have a fling in less than 10 minutes. Plus there is nothing and no penalties or consequences to hold thier feet to the fire....ummm like divorce? It really doesn't have much to do with the "gay" issue at all. A good portion of women seek to settle down gay or not... men are more likely to look around gay or not.
Just an observation.
Zoo
 
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