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So as to not derail Hugh Akston's thread further.. Let me start by saying - I use both systems (PC and Mac). I have no great preference for general computing with either a Mac or a PC, they have their strengths and weaknesses and if I'm doing what I originally trained for - I use a Mac. For anything else - it's whichever computer is nearer to me.
And just like on "Vista", you could turn off UAC via administrator tools - plus they've copied that from Mac finally... However, I disagree - Windows stills lets other things happen in the background that you're not always aware of.
I've had Macs and PCs since the early 1990's - the basic MO hasn't changed on a Mac, everyone else has been moving towards that but all the while Mac haters call it "Apple arrogance" for having a closed system..
Not disputed - but the impact of iPhone cannot be denied, no matter how much you hate Apple.
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You can't turn off the request permission sequence on a Mac, you can however on other machines. In my experience it isn't as obtrusive on a Mac either.
So why does the company still exist and make such profits if nobody buys their hardware?
Now you chose a bad analogy - I distinctly explained that it was to do with what else you got when you bought a Mac - seamless integration to other devices and services. I still remember chugging along with windows machines that boasted plug and play yet couldn't find the printer sat right next to it...
If you just want the specs- go windows, if you want it to work-expect to pay a little more either by configuring your PC or getting a mac.
Agreed, I, like many others in creative industries had a Mac for design and artwork jobs and a PC for games. Nobody ever said I couldn't have both machines. :mrgreen:
I've explained this to other Mac-haters before, Adobe refused to update and improve Flash on Macs, including desktop Macs and so the computer would run hot. Apple then said "s***w you" and dropped Flash. In the end it wasn't Apple walking cap in hand to Adobe to optimise their computer - Adobe changed the code and decided to start keeping Flash as optimised for Apple as it does on windows machines. I already explained - a couple of ex Adobe guys are already competing with Adobe for the next gen video player on Macs based on Flash Lite. It's the head guys who wrote the code for Flash.
Quicktime is still pretty damned good. I use Flash on my PC and Quicktime on my Mac.
These slates are and probably will still be for a few more years about media consumption. Creators don't use slates (iPads or Android slates) but what keeps iPad ahead is battery life and stunning screen. There's nothing similar on a PC or Android yet. It's only a year ago Steve Balmer told us of HPs new slate... and HP quietly killed it when iPad came out because windows 7 produces crap battery life on a slate.
Do you remember when Apple decided to drop floppy disks? PC people said "aha, crappy Macs don't have floppy drives... tsk tsk."
How long did you continue using floppies after Apple dropped floppy drives? :mrgreen:
You can say that of any freaking OS now days. I cant do jack**** on Windows 7 without giving permission...
And just like on "Vista", you could turn off UAC via administrator tools - plus they've copied that from Mac finally... However, I disagree - Windows stills lets other things happen in the background that you're not always aware of.
-- But you should know that 3rd party programs dont follow your rule of "need to allow".. once you start a program up then you have given permission. That is why malware and spyware is a huge problem these days... and then there is of course the.. "press yes" crowd.
I've had Macs and PCs since the early 1990's - the basic MO hasn't changed on a Mac, everyone else has been moving towards that but all the while Mac haters call it "Apple arrogance" for having a closed system..
-- .... yea you had to start Safari....
Users may encounter the worm via links posted on Facebook, MySpace, Twitter, and other websites. When clicking the link, the applet attempts to run. Users can stop the infection before it starts by denying the applet permission to run when OS X's Java player pops up a dialogue.
If they allow the applet to run, they may get another warning if they have a Mac antispyware program like VirusBarrier X6’s Anti-Spyware installed. If they don't get the warning, or choose to disregard it, the applet will attempt to make a connection with a remote server and installs a rootkit, backdoor, command and control, and other elements. These files are copied to an invisible folder -- .jnana -- in the user's home directory.
If the virus is allowed to carry out its infection process, the unsuspecting Mac user may find themselves part of a botnet. When they log on social networks, the virus will post links to spread the infection. It may also send spam e-mail via their logged-in accounts Virus on Mac asks user permission to continue
-- Form zero to 2nd behind Symbian, and now down to 3rd.
Not disputed - but the impact of iPhone cannot be denied, no matter how much you hate Apple.
If Windows Phone 7 takes off then it might be 4th soon and if RIM regains its footing then it might be 5th.
koff koff... zune player...... koff!
-- As you would in Windows. Apple Macs are no more secure at all, it is a myth.
You can't turn off the request permission sequence on a Mac, you can however on other machines. In my experience it isn't as obtrusive on a Mac either.
-- Because no one bought the damn things because Apple wanted like now, to control everything. Jobs was the one that thought up the whole idea and it nearly cost Apples life in the early years. And he has still not learned.
So why does the company still exist and make such profits if nobody buys their hardware?
-- Okay then B&O. Their TVs cost a fortune but in reality it is just a Phillips TV with a custom mod on. Does not change the fact that it is not a Ferrari of TVs.. it is just a Phillips. Same thing with Apple Macs.[ It is just a cheap ass PC inside that is being sold with a so so OS to inflated prices.
Now you chose a bad analogy - I distinctly explained that it was to do with what else you got when you bought a Mac - seamless integration to other devices and services. I still remember chugging along with windows machines that boasted plug and play yet couldn't find the printer sat right next to it...
If I wanted the same specs with Windows 7 on it, I would may much less.
If you just want the specs- go windows, if you want it to work-expect to pay a little more either by configuring your PC or getting a mac.
-- No, but the PC market is as big as it is today because of games.. and dont even try to deny that. There would be no reason for bigger and faster chips if it was not for the gaming industry.
Agreed, I, like many others in creative industries had a Mac for design and artwork jobs and a PC for games. Nobody ever said I couldn't have both machines. :mrgreen:
-- Ipad has good battery life because it has been gutted so much so to save as much power as possible.. Flash for example.
I've explained this to other Mac-haters before, Adobe refused to update and improve Flash on Macs, including desktop Macs and so the computer would run hot. Apple then said "s***w you" and dropped Flash. In the end it wasn't Apple walking cap in hand to Adobe to optimise their computer - Adobe changed the code and decided to start keeping Flash as optimised for Apple as it does on windows machines. I already explained - a couple of ex Adobe guys are already competing with Adobe for the next gen video player on Macs based on Flash Lite. It's the head guys who wrote the code for Flash.
-- It is still not native to Apple Ipad, plus the OS has limited video codec compatibility.
Quicktime is still pretty damned good. I use Flash on my PC and Quicktime on my Mac.
-- yes "me too" for much cheaper for now since they are rushing to the market.. but soon it will be Apple that is behind when Honeycomb comes out and the new gen dual core tablets come out in a few months.
These slates are and probably will still be for a few more years about media consumption. Creators don't use slates (iPads or Android slates) but what keeps iPad ahead is battery life and stunning screen. There's nothing similar on a PC or Android yet. It's only a year ago Steve Balmer told us of HPs new slate... and HP quietly killed it when iPad came out because windows 7 produces crap battery life on a slate.
I heard Ipad 2 will have a camera!.. but still no USB or HDMI... tsk tsk.
Do you remember when Apple decided to drop floppy disks? PC people said "aha, crappy Macs don't have floppy drives... tsk tsk."
How long did you continue using floppies after Apple dropped floppy drives? :mrgreen: