Florida teacher called a student by their preferred name without parental permission. teaching contract on hold

[anatta]

The question is a rhetorical one to put you in the shoes of this poor kid. You guys never think of the children.

I do. so does Florida. in the immortal words of Pink Floyd " hey teacher leave them kids alone"

I understand you are confused by our understanding that gender is more fluid than it was in our patriarchal past and youre confused. But its no excuse for taking it out on others.

your "understanding" is a junk pile of confused wokism backed by the equally PC of today's social psychologists

 

[j brown's body]

I do. so does Florida. in the immortal words of Pink Floyd " hey teacher leave them kids alone"

your "understanding" is a junk pile of confused wokism backed by the equally PC of today's social psychologists

You feel teachers treating students with common decency is detrimental to their education because it doesn't meet their parents needs.

You have expressed no support for this child whose parents are dictating his identity to them.

And you rationalize it all with clichés.

 

[jaypatriot]

her students dont get knowingly violating state law and terms o your employment is not a

^ the petition reads.
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Fla law is clear
According to State Board Rule 6A-1.0955, (school) districts must adopt a policy for provisions for parents to specify the use of any deviation from their child’s legal name in school. School districts will develop a form to obtain parental consent along with any required documentation, as appropriate,” Booker said.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/12/us/florida-teacher-fired-preferred-name/index.html

According to the BPS statement, the teacher, who was not named by the school district, told school district officials she “knowingly did not comply with state statute,” and as a result, the district conducted an investigation and issued her a letter of reprimand

State statute prohibits public K-12 school employees from referring to another person by their “preferred personal title or pronouns” if it doesn’t correspond to the sex assigned at birth, and a student cannot be asked by a public K-12 school employee or contractor to share “his or her preferred personal title or pronouns.”


“Florida is the Parental Rights state, and those rights are enshrined in law. Student name change decisions lay with parents, not educators or administrators,” Florida Department of Education spokesperson Sydney Booker told CNN in a statement.

So what's the problem? The rules are the rules.
Do teachers want to become martyrs for a losing cause?
Does that teacher wish to commit employment suicide and defy a state law?
That would be like one of Trump's cabinet members publicly stating a disagreement with one of Trump's policies.
Not a good career move.

 

[j brown's body]

So what's the problem? The rules are the rules.
Do teachers want to become martyrs for a losing cause?
Does that teacher wish to commit employment suicide and defy a state law?
That would be like one of Trump's cabinet members publicly stating a disagreement with one of Trump's policies.
Not a good career move.

Another right-winger ignoring the needs of children in education.

I'd hate to know where you all would have come down on protecting runaway slaves.

 

[anatta]

You feel teachers treating students with common decency is detrimental to their education because it doesn't meet their parents needs.

You have expressed no support for this child whose parents are dictating his identity to them.

oh the horror! my parents did all kinds of "dictating"

 

[bearpoker]

completely disagree. these are minor children. If parents agree, then fine. but parents raise the kids -not the state

Gotta love right wing drama. Addressing a child by their preferred name is hardlly raising their kid. In some circles it's called good manners.

 

[jaypatriot]

Another right-winger ignoring the needs of children in education.

I'd hate to know where you all would have come down on protecting runaway slaves.

Let's see. Runaway slaves from the 19th century.
Is that relevant in the 21st century? Should I worry about that now?
I'm more concerned with the SF Forty-niners rebuilding their team to get back to the NFL playoffs.

 

[j brown's body]

Let's see. Runaway slaves from the 19th century.
Is that relevant in the 21st century? Should I worry about that now?
I'm more concerned with the SF Forty-niners rebuilding their team to get back to the NFL playoffs.

It reveals the lame argument of "following the law."

 

[j brown's body]

oh the horror! my parents did all kinds of "dictating"

Hopefully they didn't try to impose your identity on you. For one thing its basically child abuse, and for another, it never works.

But you're fine with it here.

 

[jaypatriot]

It reveals the lame argument of "following the law."

Is that your favorite pin-up picture of Trump you're using as your avatar?
That would be like you wearing a MAGA hat.

 

[OrphanSlug]

In reading the entire article by CNN, there is a whole lot to probably talk about.

But ultimately whoever this teacher is decided to not follow Florida State Law on this matter, by principled actions the result was pitting their career against the State. We may have all kinds of reactions to this, the reaction from those signing the petition and students protesting notwithstanding, not a bit of that is a bulletproof stance against law. Even if we disagree with that law, but given that this is Florida we are talking about here no one should be surprised.

Teacher gambled with their job and lost, sort of martyred themselves and becoming another in a long chain of those willing to die on that political hill.

Will this generate enough outrage in Florida to change the law? Or, see this teacher get their job back? Unlikely on both.

Does this teacher have a good shot at teaching in a more liberal ran State? Very likely.

 

[jaypatriot]

In reading the entire article by CNN, there is a whole lot to probably talk about.

But ultimately whoever this teacher is decided to not follow Florida State Law on this matter, by principled actions the result was pitting their career against the State. We may have all kinds of reactions to this, the reaction from those signing the petition and students protesting notwithstanding, not a bit of that is a bulletproof stance against law. Even if we disagree with that law, but given that this is Florida we are talking about here no one should be surprised.

Teacher gambled with their job and lost, sort of martyred themselves and becoming another in a long chain of those willing to die on that political hill.

Will this generate enough outrage in Florida to change the law? Or, see this teacher get their job back? Unlikely on both.

Does this teacher have a good shot at teaching in a more liberal ran State? Very likely.

That teacher would have to leave the South and go to a place like Illinois, New York, or California.
That teacher is not very bright and that teacher is supposed to be teaching young students? I am still surprised I survived three years of public high school.

 

[roguenuke]

go for it. nothing wrong with that-she just cant teach under contract unless the law changes

Why do you support these laws at all? Why do you feel it is so important that parents decide something like that rather than the child, especially a teenager? What harm comes to a child from making that one decision for themself?

 

[j brown's body]

That teacher would have to leave the South and go to a place like Illinois, New York, or California.
That teacher is not very bright and that teacher is supposed to be teaching young students? I am still surprised I survived three years of public high school.

She would be smart to go somewhere else to teach, where they put the kids first.

My heart goes out to the kid.

 

[roguenuke]

completely disagree. these are minor children. If parents agree, then fine. but parents raise the kids -not the state

Students, kids need to have some rights, some choices they are allowed to make even if their parents disagree. Kids are people too, not property of their parents.

 

[j brown's body]

In reading the entire article by CNN, there is a whole lot to probably talk about.

But ultimately whoever this teacher is decided to not follow Florida State Law on this matter, by principled actions the result was pitting their career against the State. We may have all kinds of reactions to this, the reaction from those signing the petition and students protesting notwithstanding, not a bit of that is a bulletproof stance against law. Even if we disagree with that law, but given that this is Florida we are talking about here no one should be surprised.

Teacher gambled with their job and lost, sort of martyred themselves and becoming another in a long chain of those willing to die on that political hill.

Will this generate enough outrage in Florida to change the law? Or, see this teacher get their job back? Unlikely on both.

Does this teacher have a good shot at teaching in a more liberal ran State? Very likely.

It'll look great on her resume somewhere else. She suicide. to help prevent a possible suicide.

 

[OrphanSlug]

That teacher would have to leave the South and go to a place like Illinois, New York, or California.
That teacher is not very bright and that teacher is supposed to be teaching young students? I am still surprised I survived three years of public high school.

It is not about intellect, it is about the wisdom of a decision the teacher made on the assumption of their principles keeping them safe from response. The teacher was wrong, and their career will take a hit.

Moving may be the only option.

 

[j brown's body]

Students, kids need to have some rights, some choices they are allowed to make even if their parents disagree. Kids are people too, not property of their parents.

Kids owe their parents NOTHING. Parents are responsible for feeding, clothing and housing their children. It's not a reciprocal contract.

 

[roguenuke]

I do. so does Florida. in the immortal words of Pink Floyd " hey teacher leave them kids alone"

your "understanding" is a junk pile of confused wokism backed by the equally PC of today's social psychologists

Why is that not being said to the state or to parents who are complete idiots, abusive, unsupportive?

 

[OrphanSlug]

It'll look great on her resume somewhere else.

Very likely, as I already admitted to.

 

[OrphanSlug]

Kids owe their parents NOTHING.

This is not an all or nothing debate.

Kids do not owe very much, we would likely agree on that. But there is respect for who is providing, raising and guiding, protecting and legally responsible for them is not a big ask of kids.

Saying "NOTHING" in bold is a political statement about this subject, but little else.

 

[Hamish Howl]

my parents were not woke morons. Back then it would be considered child abuse to actually WANT kids to change their gender.
Of course this was when gender had a real meaning, not like changing your socks because you get some idea in your head.

Schools aren't going to facilitate that here, and im good with it

This is clearly a national priority.

unnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng

 

[jaypatriot]

It is not about intellect, it is about the wisdom of a decision the teacher made on the assumption of their principles keeping them safe from response. The teacher was wrong, and their career will take a hit.

Moving may be the only option.

Principles are a wonderful thing to uphold as long as the martyr is willing to die on a hill for those principles. Sort of like a Hamas fighter deciding he can take on a squad of IDF soldiers in a firefight.

Fortunately, no public school teacher is a slave to a particular job in a public school. How many school districts are willing to hire a teacher who knowingly defied a state law?

 

[Hamish Howl]

Hopefully they didn't try to impose your identity on you. For one thing its basically child abuse, and for another, it never works.

But you're fine with it here.

Didn't one of those backward-ass states just bring back conversion therapy, aka suicide camps?

 

[NolanVoyd]

her students dont get knowingly violating state law and terms o your employment is not a

^ the petition reads.
~~
Fla law is clear
According to State Board Rule 6A-1.0955, (school) districts must adopt a policy for provisions for parents to specify the use of any deviation from their child’s legal name in school. School districts will develop a form to obtain parental consent along with any required documentation, as appropriate,” Booker said.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/12/us/florida-teacher-fired-preferred-name/index.html

According to the BPS statement, the teacher, who was not named by the school district, told school district officials she “knowingly did not comply with state statute,” and as a result, the district conducted an investigation and issued her a letter of reprimand

State statute prohibits public K-12 school employees from referring to another person by their “preferred personal title or pronouns” if it doesn’t correspond to the sex assigned at birth, and a student cannot be asked by a public K-12 school employee or contractor to share “his or her preferred personal title or pronouns.”


“Florida is the Parental Rights state, and those rights are enshrined in law. Student name change decisions lay with parents, not educators or administrators,” Florida Department of Education spokesperson Sydney Booker told CNN in a statement.

So authoriarian.