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Florida teacher called a student by their preferred name without parental permission. teaching contract on hold (1 Viewer)

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her students dont get knowingly violating state law and terms o your employment is not a
"direct blow to personal rights and respect,”
^ the petition reads.
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Fla law is clear
According to State Board Rule 6A-1.0955, (school) districts must adopt a policy for provisions for parents to specify the use of any deviation from their child’s legal name in school. School districts will develop a form to obtain parental consent along with any required documentation, as appropriate,” Booker said.

According to the BPS statement, the teacher, who was not named by the school district, told school district officials she “knowingly did not comply with state statute,” and as a result, the district conducted an investigation and issued her a letter of reprimand

State statute prohibits public K-12 school employees from referring to another person by their “preferred personal title or pronouns” if it doesn’t correspond to the sex assigned at birth, and a student cannot be asked by a public K-12 school employee or contractor to share “his or her preferred personal title or pronouns.”


“Florida is the Parental Rights state, and those rights are enshrined in law. Student name change decisions lay with parents, not educators or administrators,” Florida Department of Education spokesperson Sydney Booker told CNN in a statement.
 
she “knowingly did not comply with state statute,”

Why is it that people think they can just violate laws and school district rules with impunity?
 
she “knowingly did not comply with state statute,”

Why is it that people think they can just violate laws with impunity?
she has a higher calling....(and no more contract)
 
she “knowingly did not comply with state statute,”

Why is it that people think they can just violate laws and school district rules with impunity?
Because Trump broke the law, was convicted and is getting away with it.

That's part of the reason why folks think they can get away with it.
 
her students dont get knowingly violating state law and terms o your employment is not a

^ the petition reads.
~~
Fla law is clear
According to State Board Rule 6A-1.0955, (school) districts must adopt a policy for provisions for parents to specify the use of any deviation from their child’s legal name in school. School districts will develop a form to obtain parental consent along with any required documentation, as appropriate,” Booker said.

According to the BPS statement, the teacher, who was not named by the school district, told school district officials she “knowingly did not comply with state statute,” and as a result, the district conducted an investigation and issued her a letter of reprimand

State statute prohibits public K-12 school employees from referring to another person by their “preferred personal title or pronouns” if it doesn’t correspond to the sex assigned at birth, and a student cannot be asked by a public K-12 school employee or contractor to share “his or her preferred personal title or pronouns.”


“Florida is the Parental Rights state, and those rights are enshrined in law. Student name change decisions lay with parents, not educators or administrators,” Florida Department of Education spokesperson Sydney Booker told CNN in a statement.
A useless law.

The student's friends will continue to call them by the name they wish to be called both in and out of school. And in the real world, most people will call them by the name they wish to be called.

Talk about government waste with all the paperwork, laws, training on new laws, contracts, having to re-hire those who break this stupid law...there's a waste of taxpayer money for you folks.
 
her students dont get knowingly violating state law and terms o your employment is not a

^ the petition reads.
~~
Fla law is clear
According to State Board Rule 6A-1.0955, (school) districts must adopt a policy for provisions for parents to specify the use of any deviation from their child’s legal name in school. School districts will develop a form to obtain parental consent along with any required documentation, as appropriate,” Booker said.

According to the BPS statement, the teacher, who was not named by the school district, told school district officials she “knowingly did not comply with state statute,” and as a result, the district conducted an investigation and issued her a letter of reprimand

State statute prohibits public K-12 school employees from referring to another person by their “preferred personal title or pronouns” if it doesn’t correspond to the sex assigned at birth, and a student cannot be asked by a public K-12 school employee or contractor to share “his or her preferred personal title or pronouns.”


“Florida is the Parental Rights state, and those rights are enshrined in law. Student name change decisions lay with parents, not educators or administrators,” Florida Department of Education spokesperson Sydney Booker told CNN in a statement.
The Florida law is stupid and completely unjust.

What name a student, particularly one in high school, goes by should be up to the student, not their parents.
 
she “knowingly did not comply with state statute,”

Why is it that people think they can just violate laws and school district rules with impunity?
That's how unjust laws like this one get challenged.
 
her students dont get knowingly violating state law and terms o your employment is not a

^ the petition reads.
~~
Fla law is clear
According to State Board Rule 6A-1.0955, (school) districts must adopt a policy for provisions for parents to specify the use of any deviation from their child’s legal name in school. School districts will develop a form to obtain parental consent along with any required documentation, as appropriate,” Booker said.

According to the BPS statement, the teacher, who was not named by the school district, told school district officials she “knowingly did not comply with state statute,” and as a result, the district conducted an investigation and issued her a letter of reprimand

State statute prohibits public K-12 school employees from referring to another person by their “preferred personal title or pronouns” if it doesn’t correspond to the sex assigned at birth, and a student cannot be asked by a public K-12 school employee or contractor to share “his or her preferred personal title or pronouns.”


“Florida is the Parental Rights state, and those rights are enshrined in law. Student name change decisions lay with parents, not educators or administrators,” Florida Department of Education spokesperson Sydney Booker told CNN in a statement.


I'll bet this law was written by some "small government" trumptards? :unsure:
 
The Florida law is stupid and completely unjust.

What name a student, particularly one in high school, goes by should be up to the student, not their parents.
completely disagree. these are minor children. If parents agree, then fine. but parents raise the kids -not the state
 
So wait.

Littly Billy now has to be called "William" or the teacher gets shitcanned?

Because that's what the law says.
I think you are correct although it's limited to "personal pronouns"

1000.071 Personal titles and pronouns.—
(1) It shall be the policy of every public K-12 educational institution that is provided or authorized by the Constitution and laws of Florida that a person’s sex is an immutable biological trait and that it is false to ascribe to a person a pronoun that does not correspond to such person’s sex. This section does not apply to individuals born with a genetically or biochemically verifiable disorder of sex development, including, but not limited to, 46, XX disorder of sex development; 46, XY disorder of sex development; sex chromosome disorder of sex development; XX or XY sex reversal; and ovotesticular disorder.
(2) An employee, contractor, or student of a public K-12 educational institution may not be required, as a condition of employment or enrollment or participation in any program, to refer to another person using that person’s preferred personal title or pronouns if such personal title or pronouns do not correspond to that person’s sex.
(3) An employee or contractor of a public K-12 educational institution may not provide to a student his or her preferred personal title or pronouns if such preferred personal title or pronouns do not correspond to his or her sex.
(4) A student may not be asked by an employee or contractor of a public K-12 educational institution to provide his or her preferred personal title or pronouns or be penalized or subjected to adverse or discriminatory treatment for not providing his or her preferred personal title or pronouns.
(5) The State Board of Education may adopt rules to administer this section.
(6) The limitations of this section only apply to the actions of an employee or contractor acting within the scope of their employment duties with the public K-12 educational institution.
History.—s. 2, ch. 2023-105; s. 7, ch. 2023-245.
 
I really want to see students changing their pronouns everyday - she today, he tomorrow, back and forth .... really jack with the teachers all the time ... fun stuff
 
I'll bet this law was written by some "small government" trumptards? :unsure:
It's a reaction to wokesters encouraging this crap and not notifying parents. But i dont see if parental notification allows it either
It looks like Florida is saying they don't play that- period- in school. Probably some dweed would be accidentally "misgendered" and sue the school system
 
she “knowingly did not comply with state statute,”

Why is it that people think they can just violate laws and school district rules with impunity?

Because they care about the kids. Humanity over law, like those who hid runaway slaves.

You got to feel for this poor kid whose parents refuse to accept him for who he is.
 
completely disagree. these are minor children. If parents agree, then fine. but parents raise the kids -not the state

Kids are not parents' property.

For some perspective, imagine if your own parents had insisted you were trans and force you to live that way.

Would you agree because "they're the boss?"
 
Kids are not parents' property.

For some perspective, imagine if your own parents had insisted you were trans and force you to live that way.

Would you agree because "they're the boss?"
my parents were not woke morons. Back then it would be considered child abuse to actually WANT kids to change their gender.
Of course this was when gender had a real meaning, not like changing your socks because you get some idea in your head.

Schools aren't going to facilitate that here, and im good with it
 
my parents were not woke morons. Back then it would be considered child abuse to actually WANT kids to change their gender.
Of course this was when gender had a real meaning, not like changing your socks because you get some idea in your head.

Schools aren't going to facilitate that here, and im good with it

The question is a rhetorical one to put you in the shoes of this poor kid. You guys never think of the children.

I understand you are confused by our understanding that gender is more fluid than it was in our patriarchal past and youre confused. But its no excuse for taking it out on others.
 

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