Finally! Mom tased for not wearing a mask

[CLAX1911]

You used the wrong word a few times. It also isn't a second hand eyewitness account, it is a firsthand eyewitness account. The superintendent personally witnessed the failure of the subject to wear a mask, and also claims through firsthand knowledge they didn't see anyone else not wearing a mask.

it's second hand because the superintendent isn't here telling you this that's what I meant you can say that's not what I meant but how would you know

I will gladly point them out in your post, and explain them for you. If you continue to attempt to claim logical superiority, maybe become more familiar with them so you don't keep making these errors.

Quoting you: "I'm not delusional because I lack blind Faith in some clown that isn't even here...

...You presented hearsay, hearsay isn't evidence"

The red is both a sweeping generalization, and an ad hominem. It is a sweeping generalization because you imply everyone who does accept the firsthand eyewitness account all believe the same wrong thing for no good reason, and it's an ad hominem because in so doing makes them delusional and relying on faith to hold their position. Both of those claims are attacks on the character of your opponent, not their argument. And then you go on to accidentally misuse hearsay 2 more times.

actually I don't imply anything. The eyewitness account is what it is. Belief is irrelevant. I won't admit to ad hominem I will admit to being hyperbolic. I don't think that I implied that it was delusional to someone is giving accurate testimony. In fact I was told that I was delusional I never implied anybody else was delusional. Blind face is not a synonym with delusion. I do admit that it was hyperbolic and perhaps too much so. But then again I'm dealing with hostile people and I tend not to treat them with respect.

So I didn't attack anyone's character so I don't agree and I don't admit to ad hominem, and you haven't sold me on the generalization thing.

I don't see you holding feet to fire, more like just stomping yours while using the pseudointellectual equivalent to "nuh uh!"

Is it whichever way you like. I'm not going to contest your opinions it doesn't matter to me.

 

[Yakshi]

I had the unfortunate experience in having to spend time with an antimasker last week. While it should have been an enjoyable relaxing time I endured two solid hours of "masks suck, masks are stupid, why is there taped X's on the seats, why do I have to have a temp scan before entering?" Thankfully it was only two (longggggggggg) hours and not an entire day as originally planned.

I've had a couple shorter experiences like that. They give off this odd mix of ultra-confidence and lack of coherence. It's upside down. You sense that they arrived at their opinion first, and then went looking for reasons that support it.

It's as if they woke up and decided to be against air. "You can't see it, can you? Any reason why? Any proof it exists? I have a study from blogspot that says it doesn't. So."

It's Dunning-Kruger all over again. Dumb people are too dumb to understand that they're dumb.

 

[SkyFox76]

She's quite the soccer mom.

Alecia Dawn Kitts, age 33, Marietta, OH, improper handling of firearms in a motor vehicle and having weapons under disability, felonies, illegal use or possession of drug paraphernalia and possession of marijuana, both misdemeanors.

I deleted the address from the report but it matches her current address.

 

[CLAX1911]

Not long into this there was an incident where a beautician had been tested for covid. She kept working while waiting on her results and as required, all employees wore masks, as did clients. Her test results came back positive, which meant every employee and client in that shop had the potential to have caught it. Everyone was contacted and yet no one but that woman ended up with covid. Since I'm doubting it was some mysterious hair products, I'd say masks worked.

Okay, the frequency of shark attacks on the beach increases with the increase of sales and ice cream therefore selling ice cream causes shark attacks.

What you're presenting is correlation and assumption. It must be the mask because you want it to be. And you further go on to say the only other thing that could possibly be is magical hair products. Perhaps this beautician made sure not to touch her face make sure to wash your hands make sure to sanitize surfaces she came in contact with. According to the CDC and this has been studied and proven those things mitigate the spread of viruses. But no none of that's possible because you want it to be the mask. The mask is the only variable you looked at it might even be the only variable you know about.

I'm not even saying your conclusion is wrong it's just not proven.

Some other variables to consider did she wear the mask properly? Did she know how? Show your methodology for determining this.

 

[SkyFox76]

I've had a couple shorter experiences like that. They give off this odd mix of ultra-confidence and lack of coherence. It's upside down. You sense that they arrived at their opinion first, and then went looking for reasons that support it.

It's as if they woke up and decided to be against air. "You can't see it, can you? Any reason why? Any proof it exists? I have a study from blogspot that says it doesn't. So."

It's Dunning-Kruger all over again. Dumb people are too dumb to understand that they're dumb.

When the fit about the tape on the seats came up it took everything I had to not ask-what freaking planet have you been on for the past seven months?!?!?

 

[Ikari]

She's quite the soccer mom.



I deleted the address from the report but it matches her current address.

Prior convictions/charges only matter if the suspect is black.

 

[CLAX1911]

I had the unfortunate experience in having to spend time with an antimasker last week. While it should have been an enjoyable relaxing time I endured two solid hours of "masks suck, masks are stupid, why is there taped X's on the seats, why do I have to have a temp scan before entering?" Thankfully it was only two (longggggggggg) hours and not an entire day as originally planned.

The thing that bothers me in public is when people let their little brats run wild in places like restaurants I don't know why people think their kids poor Behavior should be inflicted on everyone else. But it's the world I lived it and I have to deal with things that are irritating. All I can do is try not to let it Sully my experience.

 

[Fledermaus]

I can tell by observation that the Earth is a sphere. For instance gravity. If the Earth was a flat shape or a disc and the Antarctic was a ring around the outside of the disc as you moved closer to the Antarctic it would feel more and more like you're walking uphill because the force of gravity is where the greater mass is. Also the seasons the only explanation for the seasons working in conjunction with sunrise and sunset and the differences between night and day over a year is all explainable by the Earth being a sphere.

Notice I didn't say anything that would take an expert to determine might take a little bit of math and a little bit about observation.

this is all something you can figure out for yourself you don't really even need an expert.

And people who are experts agree that masking helps spread COVID.

 

[SkyFox76]

Okay, the frequency of shark attacks on the beach increases with the increase of sales and ice cream therefore selling ice cream causes shark attacks.

What you're presenting is correlation and assumption. It must be the mask because you want it to be. And you further go on to say the only other thing that could possibly be is magical hair products. Perhaps this beautician made sure not to touch her face make sure to wash your hands make sure to sanitize surfaces she came in contact with. According to the CDC and this has been studied and proven those things mitigate the spread of viruses. But no none of that's possible because you want it to be the mask. Damascus the only variable you looked at it might even be the only variable you know about.

I'm not even saying your conclusion is wrong it's just not proven.

Some other variables to consider did she wear the mask properly? Did she know how? Show your methodology for determining this.

I'm seriously not going to take any more time to to offer what all is out there if you bother to look. But you won't look because it might start to show you that masks do work. And then you have people like Herman Cain who deny it and whoops, he's dead.

What this comes down to is the school put rules in place so the kids sports could be played. They followed the cdc recommendations, kids were having fun, and parents were complying. Except this one. If her asthma is that damn bad then wear a face shield. Or stay home. She got the same guidelines to follow as everyone else but wanted to make up her own rules. Then she threw a tantrum. I'll tell you right now if her asthma was bad enough to not wear a mask she would have been begging for an inhaler with all her yelling and physical struggling.

 

[noonereal]

And people who are experts agree that masking helps spread COVID.

This kind of nonsense should not even be allowed to be posted.

At some point, just like you can't yell fire in a crowed theater, free speech has to stop. Lying that endangers lives like this qualifies.

 

[noonereal]

I'm seriously not going to take any more time to to offer what all is out there if you bother to look. But you won't look because it might start to show you that masks do work. And then you have people like Herman Cain who deny it and whoops, he's dead.

What this comes down to is the school put rules in place so the kids sports could be played. They followed the cdc recommendations, kids were having fun, and parents were complying. Except this one. If her asthma is that damn bad then wear a face shield. Or stay home. She got the same guidelines to follow as everyone else but wanted to make up her own rules. Then she threw a tantrum. I'll tell you right now if her asthma was bad enough to not wear a mask she would have been begging for an inhaler with all her yelling and physical struggling.

why are you wasting your time? That was a straight up troll post. No one is so ignorant to think masks don't matter that posts regularly here or watch's the news occasionally.

 

[noonereal]

What this comes down to is the school put rules in place so the kids sports could be played. They followed the cdc recommendations, kids were having fun, and parents were complying. Except this one. If her asthma is that damn bad then wear a face shield. Or stay home. She got the same guidelines to follow as everyone else but wanted to make up her own rules. Then she threw a tantrum. I'll tell you right now if her asthma was bad enough to not wear a mask she would have been begging for an inhaler with all her yelling and physical struggling.

exactly

 

[Fledermaus]

I had the unfortunate experience in having to spend time with an antimasker last week. While it should have been an enjoyable relaxing time I endured two solid hours of "masks suck, masks are stupid, why is there taped X's on the seats, why do I have to have a temp scan before entering?" Thankfully it was only two (longggggggggg) hours and not an entire day as originally planned.

Cheer up.

I work in a Casino.

COVIDIOTS galore.

I can't wear a mask. I hate masks. Masks make my head hurt. I lost my mask. I have a right to go maskless. I am telling my congressman. Do you know who I am?

And the gentle but firm answer is (paraphrased) "Mask or Leave"

 

[CLAX1911]

Prior convictions/charges only matter if the suspect is black.

No they don't even really matter in that case. I don't think it was wrong that she got tasered for resisting arrest. If she didn't want to wear a mask she should have just left. And when they told her to leave she should have left. It's a stupid Hill to die on, and frankly her willingness to die on it is her fault.

I was never talking about her I was talking about how stupid the rule was. People tend to rebel against stupid rules. The more Draconian and stupid the rules become the more people will take issue with them. Right now it's just some nutty lady on a soccer field. I'm sure all rebellions start out that way.

 

[SkyFox76]

The thing that bothers me in public is when people let their little brats run wild in places like restaurants I don't know why people think their kids poor Behavior should be inflicted on everyone else. But it's the world I lived it and I have to deal with things that are irritating. All I can do is try not to let it Sully my experience.

Unless I drop in a fast food place, the places I eat out at aren't really kid oriented so I'm lucky there. But in stores unruly kids and their parents get an evil eye. Only twice in maybe 10 years have I verbally communicated it's a store, not a playground and this was kids grabbing anything and everything then tossing it on the floor, or kids bouncing the big playballs knocking stuff down. With mom standing right there like nothing was out of place.

 

[Fledermaus]

No they don't even really matter in that case. I don't think it was wrong that she got tasered for resisting arrest. If she didn't want to wear a mask she should have just left. And when they told her to leave she should have left. It's a stupid Hill to die on, and frankly her willingness to die on it is her fault.

I was never talking about her I was talking about how stupid the rule was. People tend to rebel against stupid rules. The more Draconian and stupid the rules become the more people will take issue with them. Right now it's just some nutty lady on a soccer field. I'm sure all rebellions start out that way.

The rule isn't stupid.

But many people are.

 

[CLAX1911]

Cheer up.

I work in a Casino.

COVIDIOTS galore.

I can't wear a mask. I hate masks. Masks make my head hurt. I lost my mask. I have a right to go maskless. I am telling my congressman. Do you know who I am?

And the gentle but firm answer is (paraphrased) "Mask or Leave"

That's private property. I've seen restaurants require men wear tuxedos. And if they don't they're asked to leave. The private business has that prerogative.

A rule requiring people to abide by a CDC recommendations it's not a bad idea. This rule at the soccer game was not that. CDC recommends social distance of at least 6 ft or wear a mask. Because this is public property people have the right to petition the rules. This dumbass should have done that instead of just break the rules.

My point was never that she was in the right it was that the rule was stupid.

 

[SkyFox76]

Cheer up.

I work in a Casino.

COVIDIOTS galore.

I can't wear a mask. I hate masks. Masks make my head hurt. I lost my mask. I have a right to go maskless. I am telling my congressman. Do you know who I am?

And the gentle but firm answer is (paraphrased) "Mask or Leave"

I'm close to visiting my local casinos but not quite there yet. I actually had a stay at one planned back in May that got cancelled. I'd say I'm saving money, but it seems Amazon is stepping in to make sure my bank account isn't overflowing.

 

[Dayton3]

The rule isn't stupid.

You really think masks make much of a difference? I couldn't visit my aunt in the final months of her life in the nursing home but she died of COVID-19 anyway despite draconian mask rules there.

 

[CLAX1911]

The rule isn't stupid.

But many people are.

Yes it is. If you're far enough away from people according to the CDC the likelihood of transmitting the virus is extremely low that's what social distancing is all about.

Requiring someone who is far enough away to not need a mask to wear a mask is absolutely stupid I don't care how many times you say it's not you'll never convince me that that's not stupid. And the people who make those rules are among these many stupid people.

 

[CLAX1911]

You really think masks make much of a difference? I couldn't visit my aunt in the final months of her life in the nursing home but she died of COVID-19 anyway despite draconian mask rules there.

I don't know why people think this. I've been out and about in many places and seen loads of people wearing masks. They are wearing them improperly. Sometimes not covering their nose, sometimes it's not covering your mouth. the belief that it's presence there is some sort of magical spell to kill a virus is the most absurd thing I've ever heard.

 

[Fledermaus]

That's private property. I've seen restaurants require men wear tuxedos. And if they don't they're asked to leave. The private business has that prerogative.

A rule requiring people to abide by a CDC recommendations it's not a bad idea. This rule at the soccer game was not that. CDC recommends social distance of at least 6 ft or wear a mask. Because this is public property people have the right to petition the rules. This dumbass should have done that instead of just break the rules.

My point was never that she was in the right it was that the rule was stupid.

You (snicker) opinion that the rule is stupid is noted.

The reason blanket mask rules exist is often because people are too stupid to mask themselves when necessary.

The school did as many private institutions do.

Masks or Leave.

And since the "public" place falls under school administration they have the right to require the "stupid" rule that isn't stupid at all given the potential to spread disease.

Anti-maskers are in the same playing field as anti-vaxxers.

 

[CLAX1911]

Unless I drop in a fast food place, the places I eat out at aren't really kid oriented so I'm lucky there. But in stores unruly kids and their parents get an evil eye. Only twice in maybe 10 years have I verbally communicated it's a store, not a playground and this was kids grabbing anything and everything then tossing it on the floor, or kids bouncing the big playballs knocking stuff down. With mom standing right there like nothing was out of place.

Most the places I eat aren't kid oriented it doesn't stop people from bringing her kids. I remember one time I went to see a movie it was the sequel to silence of the lambs I can't remember what it was called that a kid's movie there were a small children running around in there screaming. It's sometimes what you have to put up with in the public. Only certain places you're allowed to forbid kids to come.

I've learned it's not really useful to scald the children for their improper Behavior. Because the enabler they have called a parent will come up to you and review the riot act. These are the people permitting it.

 

[Fledermaus]

Yes it is. If you're far enough away from people according to the CDC the likelihood of transmitting the virus is extremely low that's what social distancing is all about.

Requiring someone who is far enough away to not need a mask to wear a mask is absolutely stupid I don't care how many times you say it's not you'll never convince me that that's not stupid. And the people who make those rules are among these many stupid people.

Lets look at the actual CDC guidelines.


Cover your mouth and nose with a mask when around others

• You could spread COVID-19 to others even if you do not feel sick.
• The mask is meant to protect other people in case you are infected.
• Everyone should wear a mask in public settings and when around people who don’t live in your household, especially when other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain.
  • Masks should not be placed on young children under age 2, anyone who has trouble breathing, or is unconscious, incapacitated or otherwise unable to remove the mask without assistance.
• Do NOT use a mask meant for a healthcare worker. Currently, surgical masks and N95 respirators are critical supplies that should be reserved for healthcare workers and other first responders.
• Continue to keep about 6 feet between yourself and others. The mask is not a substitute for social distancing.

Everyone should wear a mask in public settings and when around people who don’t live in your household....

Everyone.

Public settings.

Sounds like attending the football game.

That is a public setting.

Right?

People who don't live in your household.

ESPECIALLY when social distancing is difficult.

Sounds like the rule wasn't "stupid" at all.

 

[Simpletruther]

The rules are there for the protection of her and others and I'm sure that she was warned previously and told that masks would be required. Failure to wear a mask has consequences. Not wearing a mask is not a right, unlike a public peaceful protest. I find it highly ironic that conservatives can dish it out but they whine like babies when they are required to obey the rules or face the consequences of force if they refuse. Do you want to rethink your boot-licking obedience to cops and the state now?

There has been a mandate in Ohio to wear a mask in public for well over a month so this isn't news to her.

I have a cheap surgical mask in my purse and another cloth mask in my car, plus surgical masks at home if I need to answer the door. Many schools are making and selling masks as fundraisers.

You appear to falsely read into my post your assumptions. I certainly understand failure to wear masks sometimes has consequences, but obviously getting tased isn’t one of them legally speaking.