• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Fear! Is that was drives you?

Luckyone

DP Veteran
Joined
Jun 20, 2018
Messages
19,627
Reaction score
7,864
Location
Miami, FL
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Independent
Instilling fear is what Trump is all about.

Donald Trump and the Politics of Fear
Trump’s candidacy relies on the power of fear. It could be the only way for him to win.

Donald Trump and the Politics of Fear - The Atlantic

He once before said that "power was about instilling fear"

Trump Once Said Power Was About Instilling Fear.
Feb 4, 2019 - The president has tried to use fear as the prime motivator both with American allies and Democrats in Congress. It has not worked well for him.

As such, my question for all of you "Is fear what drives you?"

Do you believe fear is what makes a person worthwhile? a reason to progress? A reason to improve? or is fear something that draws you down, that makes you less that what you want to be, that is not a basis for being better than you are?

Fear is what Trump pushes

Fear of the Democrats
Fear of the Chinese
Fear of the Mexicans
Fear of immigrants
Fear of protests against injustice
Fear of the media
Fear of change
Fear of science
Fear of socialism
Fear of the unknown
Fear of difference of opinion

Is fear was makes you do things? Otherwise, you would not try to become a better person?
 

nota bene

Moderator
DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 11, 2011
Messages
67,188
Reaction score
38,431
Gender
Female
Political Leaning
Conservative
No, not fear but faith.
 

tacomancer

Christian Capitalist Social Democrat
Supporting Member
DP Veteran
Monthly Donator
Joined
Jan 8, 2010
Messages
61,767
Reaction score
43,145
Location
NE Ohio
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Liberal
Instilling fear is what Trump is all about.



Donald Trump and the Politics of Fear - The Atlantic

He once before said that "power was about instilling fear"



As such, my question for all of you "Is fear what drives you?"

Do you believe fear is what makes a person worthwhile? a reason to progress? A reason to improve? or is fear something that draws you down, that makes you less that what you want to be, that is not a basis for being better than you are?

Fear is what Trump pushes

Fear of the Democrats
Fear of the Chinese
Fear of the Mexicans
Fear of immigrants
Fear of protests against injustice
Fear of the media
Fear of change
Fear of science
Fear of socialism
Fear of the unknown
Fear of difference of opinion

Is fear was makes you do things? Otherwise, you would not try to become a better person?

In my case, love for my fellow human and faith is what drives me.
 

The AntiDonald

Supporting Member
DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 12, 2019
Messages
13,536
Reaction score
11,757
Location
N. Virginia
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Slightly Liberal
Instilling fear is what Trump is all about.



Donald Trump and the Politics of Fear - The Atlantic

He once before said that "power was about instilling fear"



As such, my question for all of you "Is fear what drives you?"

Do you believe fear is what makes a person worthwhile? a reason to progress? A reason to improve? or is fear something that draws you down, that makes you less that what you want to be, that is not a basis for being better than you are?

Fear is what Trump pushes

Fear of the Democrats
Fear of the Chinese
Fear of the Mexicans
Fear of immigrants
Fear of protests against injustice
Fear of the media
Fear of change
Fear of science
Fear of socialism
Fear of the unknown
Fear of difference of opinion

Is fear was makes you do things? Otherwise, you would not try to become a better person?

Trump's fear does not drive me. Once you see it's all pure lies, no fear at all.
 

Ikari

Moderator
DP Veteran
Joined
Dec 8, 2006
Messages
86,999
Reaction score
57,193
Location
Colorado
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Left
Fear-mongering has long been a tool of the right, and Trump wields it well. Anything to aid the Showman-in-Chief.
 

Phys251

Purge evil with Justice
DP Veteran
Joined
Jul 24, 2011
Messages
52,398
Reaction score
36,973
Location
Georgia
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Slightly Liberal
No, not fear but faith.

Bull****.

Trump supporters have no faith. They have belief, hope, desire to once again dominate the social and spiritual landscape, but they don't have faith. If they did, they wouldn't be afraid all the time. They certainly wouldn't be afraid of just about every group of people that Jesus told them to love.
 

Luckyone

DP Veteran
Joined
Jun 20, 2018
Messages
19,627
Reaction score
7,864
Location
Miami, FL
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Independent
No, not fear but faith.

Faith? Fear is not faith so then why does Trump instill fear and not faith? Faith makes you believe in something and believe in yourself for doing what is right and what is just. Fearing others is not faith. Jesus was not afraid of death and that is what made him go forward. He did not instill fear, he instilled determination to be better than the others, not kill them and destroy them but to be better than them.
 
Last edited:

nota bene

Moderator
DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 11, 2011
Messages
67,188
Reaction score
38,431
Gender
Female
Political Leaning
Conservative
Bull****.

Trump supporters have no faith. They have belief, hope, desire to once again dominate the social and spiritual landscape, but they don't have faith. If they did, they wouldn't be afraid all the time. They certainly wouldn't be afraid of just about every group of people that Jesus told them to love.

Try to follow along please. The OP asked "Is fear was makes you do things?" I answered. You seem to be confusing the singular and the plural. You surely aren't presuming to tell me, a stranger, why I live my life as I do...are you?
 

What if...?

DP Veteran
Joined
Sep 10, 2010
Messages
37,052
Reaction score
15,171
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Other
Instilling fear is what Trump is all about.



Donald Trump and the Politics of Fear - The Atlantic

He once before said that "power was about instilling fear"



As such, my question for all of you "Is fear what drives you?"

Do you believe fear is what makes a person worthwhile? a reason to progress? A reason to improve? or is fear something that draws you down, that makes you less that what you want to be, that is not a basis for being better than you are?

Fear is what Trump pushes

Fear of the Democrats
Fear of the Chinese
Fear of the Mexicans
Fear of immigrants
Fear of protests against injustice
Fear of the media
Fear of change
Fear of science
Fear of socialism
Fear of the unknown
Fear of difference of opinion

Is fear was makes you do things? Otherwise, you would not try to become a better person?

The enlarged right amygdala common in conservatives is associated with strong reactions to threats to the tribe.

Whether they were born that way or it is the result of the thirty years of cynical, intensive conditioning their media has facilitated is still unknown.

But the trump era sure has flipped the script on republicans.

Us liberals are now cuck snowflakes in need of a safe space AND anarchist fascists (I know there is no such thing as a fascist anarchist). Something to be mocked as weak and feared so much they need unmarked men with guns to deal with them.

But it's the trump era, where they could talk smack about pedophiles while dandling a little girl and their minions wouldn't bat an eye.
 

nota bene

Moderator
DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 11, 2011
Messages
67,188
Reaction score
38,431
Gender
Female
Political Leaning
Conservative
Faith? Fear is not faith so then why does Trump instill fear and not faith?

I can't answer your question. Trump doesn't instill anything in me.
 

Phys251

Purge evil with Justice
DP Veteran
Joined
Jul 24, 2011
Messages
52,398
Reaction score
36,973
Location
Georgia
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Slightly Liberal
Try to follow along please. The OP asked "Is fear was makes you do things?" I answered. You seem to be confusing the singular and the plural. You surely aren't presuming to tell me, a stranger, why I live my life as I do...are you?

And there it is. The predictably defensive reaction that makes my point for me.

Notice that nota didn't try to deny what was said. She simply tried to swat it away with the latest failed attempt at nitpicking a trivial point so that she wouldn't have to face the much larger point.
 

Casper

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Dec 14, 2015
Messages
26,734
Reaction score
11,520
Location
Elsewhere
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Independent
Instilling fear is what Trump is all about.



Donald Trump and the Politics of Fear - The Atlantic

He once before said that "power was about instilling fear"



As such, my question for all of you "Is fear what drives you?"

Do you believe fear is what makes a person worthwhile? a reason to progress? A reason to improve? or is fear something that draws you down, that makes you less that what you want to be, that is not a basis for being better than you are?

Fear is what Trump pushes

Fear of the Democrats
Fear of the Chinese
Fear of the Mexicans
Fear of immigrants
Fear of protests against injustice
Fear of the media
Fear of change
Fear of science
Fear of socialism
Fear of the unknown
Fear of difference of opinion

Is fear was makes you do things? Otherwise, you would not try to become a better person?

Fear is what almost always drives hate, hence why the right has nothing left but hate.
 

Luckyone

DP Veteran
Joined
Jun 20, 2018
Messages
19,627
Reaction score
7,864
Location
Miami, FL
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Independent
I can't answer your question. Trump doesn't instill anything in me.

But fear is what he does all the time. You do not listen to him? You do support him, don't you?

 

apdst

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Jun 23, 2009
Messages
133,631
Reaction score
30,937
Location
Bagdad, La.
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Very Conservative
Anyone with any sense fears socialism.
 

nota bene

Moderator
DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 11, 2011
Messages
67,188
Reaction score
38,431
Gender
Female
Political Leaning
Conservative
And there it is. The predictably defensive reaction that makes my point for me.

Notice that nota didn't try to deny what was said. She simply tried to swat it away with the latest failed attempt at nitpicking a trivial point so that she wouldn't have to face the much larger point.

What a lame try. I'm not being at all defensive; you're projecting. :roll:
 

Phys251

Purge evil with Justice
DP Veteran
Joined
Jul 24, 2011
Messages
52,398
Reaction score
36,973
Location
Georgia
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Slightly Liberal
What a lame try. I'm not being at all defensive; you're projecting. :roll:

Keep making this all about you, when my post was obviously not about you at all. I love it when my opponents provide a perfect example of a point I am trying to make. :)
 

TheParser

DP Veteran
Joined
Jul 12, 2018
Messages
12,917
Reaction score
6,183
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Moderate
"Fear" does NOT drive me.

Sheer TERROR drives me.

I am terrified when I see grinning looters laughing when they destroy people's livelihoods.
I am terrified when I see a "child" suddenly sucker punch a passing pedestrian, who falls to the ground. (That could have been I.)
I am terrified when I read this morning that the Speaker of the House feels that Republicans are "domestic enemies."

I wish that there were more Trumps as mayors and governors.

But I know that he will supposedly lose on November 3 and that his enemies are salivating at the thought of sending him to prison.

You betcha I'm terrified.
 

nota bene

Moderator
DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 11, 2011
Messages
67,188
Reaction score
38,431
Gender
Female
Political Leaning
Conservative
But fear is what he does all the time. You do not listen to him? You do support him, don't you?



No, I don't listen to him much, only catch sound bytes and read the daily "two-minute hates," when forced, here at DP. Trump doesn't have an impact on my life. I leave the frothing-at-the-mouth pathologies to others. Trump is boorish and beset by character flaws, but I'm neither a fan nor an "Orange Man bad" person.

Lotta irrationality going around on all sides. It's stupid and counterproductive, but as I've said, my eye is elsewhere.
 

Phys251

Purge evil with Justice
DP Veteran
Joined
Jul 24, 2011
Messages
52,398
Reaction score
36,973
Location
Georgia
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Slightly Liberal
"Fear" does NOT drive me.

Sheer TERROR drives me.

I am terrified when I see grinning looters laughing when they destroy people's livelihoods.
I am terrified when I see a "child" suddenly sucker punch a passing pedestrian, who falls to the ground. (That could have been I.)
I am terrified when I read this morning that the Speaker of the House feels that Republicans are "domestic enemies."

I wish that there were more Trumps as mayors and governors.

But I know that he will supposedly lose on November 3 and that his enemies are salivating at the thought of sending him to prison.

You betcha I'm terrified.

The first two sentences are one of the most honest things I've seen a 45 supporter admit.

I'm sure he is not in any way afraid of actual threats to him. Like fascism, oligarchy, and a literal pandemic.
 

Phys251

Purge evil with Justice
DP Veteran
Joined
Jul 24, 2011
Messages
52,398
Reaction score
36,973
Location
Georgia
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Slightly Liberal
No, I don't listen to him much, only catch sound bytes and read the daily "two-minute hates," when forced, here at DP. Trump doesn't have an impact on my life.

Your bubble sounds very comfortable.
 

Aurora

DP Veteran
Joined
Jun 6, 2020
Messages
3,754
Reaction score
829
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
Instilling fear is what Trump is all about.



Donald Trump and the Politics of Fear - The Atlantic

He once before said that "power was about instilling fear"



As such, my question for all of you "Is fear what drives you?"

Do you believe fear is what makes a person worthwhile? a reason to progress? A reason to improve? or is fear something that draws you down, that makes you less that what you want to be, that is not a basis for being better than you are?

Fear is what Trump pushes

Fear of the Democrats
Fear of the Chinese
Fear of the Mexicans
Fear of immigrants
Fear of protests against injustice
Fear of the media
Fear of change
Fear of science
Fear of socialism
Fear of the unknown
Fear of difference of opinion

Is fear was makes you do things? Otherwise, you would not try to become a better person?

It's not a matter of fear, It's reality of the situation to make sound decisions.
Concern about democrat policy...you bet.

Chinese hegemony, trade practices.

mexicans, illegal immigration is a crime with many side effects.

Protests against injustice.. Riots are a crime and an injustice to the victims of the riots.

Change...depends on from what to what. Not all change is good.

Socialism.. that's not who we are or want to be.

media.. much of it is propaganda for the benefit of democrats.
 

nota bene

Moderator
DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 11, 2011
Messages
67,188
Reaction score
38,431
Gender
Female
Political Leaning
Conservative
Your bubble sounds very comfortable.

It very much is. I have little control over what others think or do, and especially in this time of COVID and "hunkering down," I'm keeping my focus on my family and on my work for a charitable org. Writing radio spots this morning while waiting to learn whether my family member at the ER has a sprained or broken ankle. Pipe exploded in my bathroom Saturday, and plumber found wood ants under the house, so I'm about to call the exterminator. Watching Hurricane Laura. BFF has already evacuated from the coast. Real life, you know. ;)
 

Luckyone

DP Veteran
Joined
Jun 20, 2018
Messages
19,627
Reaction score
7,864
Location
Miami, FL
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Independent
No, I don't listen to him much, only catch sound bytes and read the daily "two-minute hates," when forced, here at DP. Trump doesn't have an impact on my life. I leave the frothing-at-the-mouth pathologies to others. Trump is boorish and beset by character flaws, but I'm neither a fan nor an "Orange Man bad" person.

Lotta irrationality going around on all sides. It's stupid and counterproductive, but as I've said, my eye is elsewhere.

Then you are the exception and not the rule as Trump has grabbed most everyone by the balls and by the ***** and has not let go.

Evidently, that is not something that has happened to you.

 

nota bene

Moderator
DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 11, 2011
Messages
67,188
Reaction score
38,431
Gender
Female
Political Leaning
Conservative
Then you are the exception and not the rule as Trump has grabbed most everyone by the balls and by the ***** and has not let go.

Evidently, that is not something that has happened to you.

Evidently. And it hasn't even caused me to be gratuitously vulgar when I post either.
 

Luckyone

DP Veteran
Joined
Jun 20, 2018
Messages
19,627
Reaction score
7,864
Location
Miami, FL
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Independent
It's not a matter of fear, It's reality of the situation to make sound decisions.
Concern about democrat policy...you bet.

Chinese hegemony, trade practices.

mexicans, illegal immigration is a crime with many side effects.

Protests against injustice.. Riots are a crime and an injustice to the victims of the riots.

Change...depends on from what to what. Not all change is good.

Socialism.. that's not who we are or want to be.

media.. much of it is propaganda for the benefit of democrats.

You are sowing fear yourself. What every person should do is not see what others are doing but do yourself what you expect others to do. Be a role model person for what you dislike and fear in others. All changes start within us. How can we expect others to be what we want them to be if we can't be that ourselves first?
 
Top Bottom