LOL...asking someone questions doesn't justify assault. What if the guy had been asking directions and Martin took a swing at him?
Can you possibly see how you're argument doesn't hold water?
And those reasons would be, what?
LOL...asking someone questions doesn't justify assault....
LOL...asking someone questions doesn't justify assault. What if the guy had been asking directions and Martin took a swing at him?
Can you possibly see how you're argument doesn't hold water?
if you follow me, in the middle of the night, first in your car and then on foot, I'm gonna stand my ground.
and that means that if you approach me in any way, fist will be hitting cartilage.
...hypothetically, of course.
and how can you possible know that zimmerman just asked quetions and wasn't in fact threatening the kid or at least making him feel threatened? Just so im clear are we defending Zimmerman because he was trying to be " the good American" carrying around his gun stalking the area like Texas Ranger and the kid well I mean he was black and he did have his hood up so...is that where we stand right now because thats what it feels like right now?
Like beating up panhandlers in parking lots, do ya?
you tell us, Bub.
what are your reasons for assuming that Trayvon Martin attacked Zimmerman, unjustifiably?
and how can you possible know that zimmerman just asked quetions and wasn't in fact threatening the kid or at least making him feel threatened? Just so im clear are we defending Zimmerman because he was trying to be " the good American" carrying around his gun stalking the area like Texas Ranger and the kid well I mean he was black and he did have his hood up so...is that where we stand right now because thats what it feels like right now?
if you are followed in a car, followed on foot, and then the guy comes up to your face, I give you permission to wack him.
Only racists in their hearts keep point to Martin's race.
In his own way, I think Zimmerman was trying to be a good neighbor....
and how can you possible know that zimmerman just asked quetions and wasn't in fact threatening the kid or at least making him feel threatened? Just so im clear are we defending Zimmerman because he was trying to be " the good American" carrying around his gun stalking the area like Texas Ranger and...
the kid well I mean he was black and he did have his hood up so...is that where we stand right now because thats what it feels like right now?
right...to...assault...a stalker. No...no one has a right to 'assault' anyone. is it REASONABLE that any citizen would CONFRONT a 'stalker'? Absolutely. Assault. No...no 'right'. But confront someone that was 'stalking' them? Would that be a normal response? Sure. You bet. Not just from an adrenalyzed 17 year old but from...well...you. Me. Pretty much anyone.A citizen doesn't have the right to assault a stalker. You know that better than I do.
It depends on how those questions are asked. They can be inquisitive or they can be intimidating/threatening.
...You et. al. are the only ones that remind us that Martin was black. Maybe you should look in the mirror. Personally, I think the only reason your panties are in a twist, is because Martin was black. Had he been white, you wouldn't even give a ****.
1) I don't and neither do you. You're starting to get the picture.
2) "feeling" threatened isn't grounds for self defense.
You et. al. are the only ones that remind us that Martin was black. Maybe you should look in the mirror. Personally, I think the only reason your panties are in a twist, is because Martin was black. Had he been white, you wouldn't even give a ****.
and how can you possible know that zimmerman just asked quetions and wasn't in fact threatening the kid or at least making him feel threatened?
You can knock off the hyperbole. There wasn't "persistently" anything. The incident happened over the matter of a few minutes.You keep going back to this idea that persistently following someone around isn't "threatening" behavior.
I don't drive. I am a disabled Vet.So tonight I want you to pick a random woman off the street and follow her in your car.
That is twisting the actual circumstances to fit your narrative and has absolutely nothing to do with what happened.So tonight I want you to pick a random woman off the street and follow her in your car.
Then, when she becomes aware of you and turns off the street I want you to get out and follow her on foot.
Then, when she calls the police and they come, I want you to tell them she had no rwason to feel threatened, as you were just "observing" her. See how well that works out for you.
Trying to claim that some big fat guy following you in his car and then getting out and chasing you (which is what "following" looks like to the one being followed) is not "threatening" is silly.
That's right."Threatened" is a purely subjective thing.
There is no evidence to engage in such speculation.It is entirely possible that Martin chose that particular time and place to suddenly "go gangsta".
Its not anywhere near as likely as that Zimmerman went too far in his zeal to make a "bust", put his hands on someone who was already frightened, got knocked to the ground and then killed Martin in anger or fear.
Please get your facts straight. He was not "told" by the police not to follow him.As I understand it, he was acting as a neighborhood watchman...not Joe Citizen. Joe Citizen can be armed...neighborhood watchmen arent supposed to be armed. He had done his 'job'. He was told by the police to NOT follow him. He incited the incident.
Your narrative is off.Flip the script a little bit. If it was YOUR kid being tracked by a wannabe cop...a guy that had been TOLD by the dispatcher to stop following him...a guy that pressed the issue...even if your kid made a bad choice by confronting the total stranger that had been harassing him...wouldnt you be pissed? We may not know EXACTLY what happened but we know what we know. A good kid was minding his own business and was harassed and eventually killed by someone who was doing everything wrong.
I have no doubt that Trayvon felt threatened, and maybe even afraid. But not enough not to confront the guy.....
That is right. That's what I've been saying.You have ONE statement that Martin attacked Zimmerman.
From Zimmerman.
That is not what I am saying.You are positing that anyone found standing over a body with a gun can simply state that they were attacked and that's good enough.
That is a bs argument and has no basis other than bias.You are ACCEPTING the word of someone with every reason to lie.
...
But it is entirely possible he is, and simply taking his word for it just isn't reasonable.
Please get your facts straight. He was not "told" by the police not to follow him.
Keeping someone under observation until police arrived is not inciting anything.
And he did stop following him.
As he was on his way back to his truck he was attacked by Trayvon.
Your narrative is off.
Besides, there is no reason to "flip the script".
Feelings are not at issue here.
lol if he was white we wouldnt be talking about this right now
Of course we wouldn't. Glad you've figgered that part out, at least. :lamo
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