No, my friend. Trump became president unexpectedly. He then proceeded to find every loophole, starting with ignoring the Emoluments Clause, so that he could profit off the presidency, to evading accountability with the aid of other amoral Republicans. So, there you go. He is or never was, "for America". Trump will always be just for himself.Trump was a president for the people. For America and not for Mexico or other countries who take advantage of our generosity.
Trump was pushing it, lol.Trump wasn't there. So, you're going to use a spontaneous trespassing that happened two years ago forever? Can we use the months of riots by the left then to say all Democrats are rioters?
How many people threatened election workers? Where was this? Any arrests?
So, if someone has an opinion that a guy who stayed in his basement didn't really win, that is a false narrative? Especially with all the irregularities and no signature of address confirmations and mail boxes placed in Democrat areas that went unmonitored?
yes, it isThat depends on if what it finds appropriate depends on political perspective, and not objective standards. Being opposed to pornography, vulgarity is one thing. Censoring political opinion on a discussion board called "Debate Politics" would be rather counterintuitive and contrary to free speech. If people are going to debate politics, then all sides of a political discussion should be permitted. We should also be permitted to debate things like fascism, Nazism, communism, socialism, Marxism, anarchism, and anything else, and that would include the "pro" side to those debates. The forum would be within its rights to censor whatever it wants, of course, but it would not be rational to call it supportive of free speech if it said "we can d
that's the way it works. it's his platform, it's his rules one must abide by to participate
So what? Maybe he'll make it all back.
I label you a never Trumper because you don't like his personality. A person who firmly believes the election was rigged as do I would be weak to say otherwise. NOTHING to see HERE, folks.I'm going to make it really simple for you: My idea of democracy is respecting our over 250-year-old institutions which includes accepting the results of elections and promoting the orderly transfer of power. Our party, as it stands fights against our institutions, not for any philosophical reason, but for the purpose of clutching to power.
And I honestly don't care how you choose to label me.
We're just not going to agree on much. We both have very strong opinions, regarding Trump and Trumpism. I'm certain we can agree on that.I label you a never Trumper because you don't like his personality. A person who firmly believes the election was rigged as do I would be weak to say otherwise. NOTHING to see HERE, folks.
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It would appear that you are of opinion on which Judge Oliver Wendell Holmes based his loathesome court decision in Schenck v United States.[emphasis added by bubba]
it would appear you are of the opinion it should be found acceptable to yell "fire" in a crowded theatre
Yeah, he says a lot of things. Musk says he can come back. We'll find out soon. My money says Trump can't not go back.
I'm going to make it really simple for you: My idea of democracy is respecting our over 250-year-old institutions which includes accepting the results of elections and promoting the orderly transfer of power. Our party, as it stands fights against our institutions, not for any philosophical reason, but for the purpose of clutching to power.
And I honestly don't care how you choose to label me.
Here is the link to my post as the PDf can't be posted here. If anyone still thinks he had no beef after reading this, I don't know what to say.We're just not going to agree on much. We both have very strong opinions, regarding Trump and Trumpism. I'm certain we can agree on that.
Accepting loss is one thing but election rigging is another. They aren't accepting the fraud in Brazil either.Accepting loss is a cornerstone of democracy.
No, my friend. Trump became president unexpectedly. He then proceeded to find every loophole, starting with ignoring the Emoluments Clause, so that he could profit off the presidency, to evading accountability with the aid of other amoral Republicans. So, there you go. He is or never was, "for America". Trump will always be just for himself.
It is not. It is being a sap.Generosity is not a mistake. It is the mark of good people.
Here ya go.Trump was pushing it, lol.
And yes, it is a false narrative and there's never been any evidence of "election fraud". It's just a conspiracy theory losers push to defend their loser Dear Leader.
Sure, but being within one's rights doesn't mean one is acting rightly. Then, Twitter was not acting rightly. So far, it is acting rightly now.yes, it is
just like twitter
then and now
Sure, and if he starts being biased in favor of one side or the other, then I will exercise my right to object to what he's doing.that's the way it works. it's his platform, it's his rules one must abide by to participate
Here is why Twitter banned Trump https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/suspensionbut the earlier question was about the "harm" caused by tRump via twitter
and it was shown, in one example, that there is a relationship with tRump's J6 tweets to the traitors and their "hang mike pence" retort
there is no way one is unable to miss that harm resulting from tRump's inappropriate tweets
i could go on, but there is inadequate bandwidth to encompass all of tRump's similar misdeeds
As opposed to almost every other politician?
Why the focus on what he "admits?" He lost. He left on January 21, 2021. That's the reality. He doesn't have to "admit."
Alternative facts are what politics is based on. The idea that Democrats peddle truth, and Trump peddles alternative facts, is laughable in the extreme.
All of them lie.
You're just putting us back in the hands of the biggest liars of the past 60 years. We have been owned by a machine for the last 60+ years, and they don't care about you or me at all, and they are lying pieces of shit and war criminals. Think of every war we've been involved in for the last 62 years -- almost every one was fomented and based on lies. The one notable exception MIGHT be Afghanistan in 2001 -- and ONLY for the first year, max. After that, it was a big load of bullshit.
Every other war we've been involved in for the past 62 years, starting with the falsified Gulf of Tonkin incident which caused 60,000 American soldiers' deaths and hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese deaths, in a decade's long war crime, and running through various coups, trumped up national security risks, faked casus belli, etc. The people that want to "get back to" honor and trust in politics aren't thinking clearly. As bad as Trump was, he's a piker compared to the war criminals of the last 60 years.
You should be happy. Trump brought manufacturing back to the US.I have hardly ever seen a more over-exaggerated narrative than the one about Trump's supposedly "harmful" tweets. Another completely manufactured outrage.
Its full of fake newsNow all of a sudden it's the Twit Zone, LOL. The hypocrisy of the Left, and the fatalism of one single social media company going toward the center, away of the communist left of other extremist social media sites. OMG, the world is over. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The best part of this isn't whether Trump rejoins; it's the exploding heads on the Left whether he rejoins of not. Love it.
It's the basement of BSNobody with any brains puts a dime in the piece of shit TS....
Ok. Have a great Monday!Here is the link to my post as the PDf can't be posted here. If anyone still thinks he had no beef after reading this, I don't know what to say.
I also feel if Trump was really for America, he would not have attacked it and tried to murder his political enemies. I think that, alone, should be a "red flag" Trump just doesn't love us so much!If Trump was really for America, he would have manufactured his cheesy products in this country instead of in Asian sweatshops. I remember when David Letterman asked him years ago if he ever planned to build a manufacturing plant in this country to give Americans jobs, and he laughed.
His supporters are ignorant if they think the man is about America. The man is only about himself. Always was, always will be.
You can't be serious.1. If Mr. Trump is allowed back on Twitter, a lot of liberals are going to be very, very, very angry -- especially since Mr. Trump will be able to gainsay the Special Prosecutor.
2. Liberals have a lot of influence throughout corporate America.
a. I am 100% computer illiterate, but I have just read that Google and Apple may be pressured by activists into dropping Twitter. (Whatever that means!)
3, Now it is perfectly true that there are limits to freedom of speech. There are certain things that people should not be allowed to say.
a. But it was unfair -- IMHO -- to suspend Mr. Trump simply because he questioned the honesty of the 2020 election.
b. Dems, of course, feel that it was too dangerous to let a sitting President question the honesty of our electoral process. (I do agree that he could have used a more nuanced approach.)
Alright, you do not need to be talking about me at all. It takes two to have a polite conversation. I insist we keep things respectful between us. If that doesn't happen I will cut it off.LOL - it's cute you think the Democratic Party is "generous."
The US doesn'thave generosity, and neither does any other country. The US uses foreign aid as a tool of politics and global strategy. It's not a charity. And, the Democrats don't act any differently, because both parties are owned by the same people.
I saw an interesting guest speaker this morning who opined that Elon stopped developing emotionally at age 11 and now we have a kid in charge of an international media platform.Sure, but being within one's rights doesn't mean one is acting rightly. Then, Twitter was not acting rightly. So far, it is acting rightly now.
Sure, and if he starts being biased in favor of one side or the other, then I will exercise my right to object to what he's doing.
Here is why Twitter banned Trump https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/suspension
Twitter is making leaps of logic when it says that Trump announcing that he will not attend the inauguration was being received by some as confirmation that Trunp thinks the election was illegitimate. Twitter then says Trump is doing something wrong by saying his 75,000,000 voters will have a giant voice into the future and will not be disrespected, etc.
That, says Twitter, is incitement to violence.
If you cannot see how bullshit that is, then you aren't thinking logically.
It doesn't matter that some of Trump's supporters went bananas and started chanting "hang mike pence." First of all, there is literally nothing wrong with chanting "hang" some politician or other. it's been done for hundreds of years. Democrats brought guillotines to anti-Trump rallies and pretended to behead him. They burned him in effigy. Madonna "dreamed of blowing up the white house." Democrats called for "unrest in the streets" and comment after comment for years which "incited" their supporters to conduct protests where violent acts occurrd.
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