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Reuters 2pm-A controversial measure providing a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants who came to the United States as children was dealt a death blow in the Senate on Saturday by Republicans who said it would reward illegal activity.
The so-called "Dream Act" passed the House of Representatives earlier this month, but it failed to gain the 60 votes necessary to overcome opposition in the 100-member Senate.
"Dream Act" immigration bill blocked in Senate - Yahoo! News
This is one where I have to come down on the same side as republicans. I like the concept of DREAM, but I think, at least for now, it should be limited to military service as the route to access to citizenship.
I am very happy that this did not pass. I agree with those who are saying we should first make it less enticing to come here before we even consider giving anyone here illegally amnesty. If their parents brought them here, it is sad, but that doesn't mean they should get the reward, especially not when doing so gives other parents more reason to illegally bring their children into our country for those same rewards.
Now, I am for citizenship through military service. You do so much time in the military, with honorable service, you get citizenship.
The incentive for most of them comes from the shady employers who keep hiring these people.
These are kids who through no fault of their own are here, who in many cases have no personal recollection of any other country but this one, who are among the top achievers of our public school systems, and who have enormous potential to contribute to our society and strengthen our nation. The DREAM act empowers that realization and in my opinion it is only human shortsightedness that prevents this urgently needed legislation from being the law of the land.
These are kids who through no fault of their own are here, who in many cases have no personal recollection of any other country but this one, who are among the top achievers of our public school systems, and who have enormous potential to contribute to our society and strengthen our nation. The DREAM act empowers that realization and in my opinion it is only human shortsightedness that prevents this urgently needed legislation from being the law of the land.
As the saying goes,
"Law's the law." and "Life's unfair."
I'm willing to compromise.
First, we need to take the steps necessary to stop the next wave of illegals. end birthright citizenship. ramp up illegal immigration enforcement of companies that hire illegally. Figure out a way to remove the economic advantage of coming to this country illegally.
then and only then can we selectively reward children of law breakers, but only the children that can demonstrate themselves as assets in American life. They must be able to read and write, they must understand and appreciate our views on private property, and individual liberty.
Hopefully the dread act will stay dead. Illegals should not be rewarded with amnesty, especially if all they have to do is go to college or join a POG MOS.
Children should never have to pay for their parents' mistakes. Anyone who was raised and educated in any given country from a very young age should have the opportunity to become a citizen of that country or at the very lest legal foreign residents. As Chappy said, many of them have never been back to their home country, many don't even speak their native language at all, not all of them are Hispanic or Mexican and can't easily cross oceans to rejoin a culture that has become completely alien to them. And some don't realize they're actually in the country illegally until they're almost adults. It makes no sense to deport these people whose life in the US as made them as American as if they were born there. If you're going to punish anyone, punish the parents. The kids don't deserve to be kicked out of the only country they call home. At least give them Green Cards, ffs.
To me, I think DREAM would work if, at least for now, it allowed those who came into the country under the age of 16 and have broken no other laws to serve in the military(if they qualify otherwise, ie if they can get in) and serve 4 years to get access to the chance to attain citizenship. Along with that, we need to do things to slow as much as possible(it's impossible to completely end illegal immigration) by going after employers and those in the country illegally and making it more difficult to enter the country illegally. I think all this should be done together.
Children should never have to pay for their parents' mistakes. Anyone who was raised and educated in any given country from a very young age should have the opportunity to become a citizen of that country or at the very lest legal foreign residents. As Chappy said, many of them have never been back to their home country, many don't even speak their native language at all, not all of them are Hispanic or Mexican and can't easily cross oceans to rejoin a culture that has become completely alien to them. And some don't realize they're actually in the country illegally until they're almost adults. It makes no sense to deport these people whose life in the US as made them as American as if they were born there. If you're going to punish anyone, punish the parents. The kids don't deserve to be kicked out of the only country they call home. At least give them Green Cards, ffs.
Children always pay for thier parents mistakes. It is the way life is. If a childs dad has a reputation of being nasty you can be sure that the child will get attention for that..and not in a positive way. Children also have to pay for thier parents bills when the parent dies.
The incentive for most of them comes from the shady employers who keep hiring these people.
I've worked professionally with the children of illegal immigrants. It's very difficult, many of these kids have been here since they were toddlers and are much more American than Mexican. They can't legally work in the U.S., but they want to remain here because to them, this is home. We should definitely offer up the military as a path to citizenship.
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